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MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Today we received a newsletter that our direct Office Manager assigned to our account is gone! YIPPEEE!!! What was so funny is they made it sound like it was the greatest loss in the world. We all should be sad... It wasn't 5 minutes after that email went out that 1st post on our FB went out. It was asking was there ANYONE who is going to miss her??? NOPE!!! She was beyond awful but had her boss believing she was victim... I am sure telling her she felt "attacked". Well if she wasn't so stupid no one would attack her! Believe me the stories I can tell...

Also someone decided to post a complaint about our "Street Islands". The City/Utilities company installed these "islands" with full curbs. They vary in sizes but the one on my street is the worst. I believe part of the reason was also traffic speed control instead of speed humps They split the road in half. So for about 100 yards it's 0ne lane on each side. They are smaller on the other roads but are at "cross walk" areas. Most of the people in the HOA HATE them.

A neighbor decided to post about how these "islands" prevent them from backing out of their driveway. Plus it's going to "lower the home values". It wasn't like you didn't see these things being built in the road when the houses were being built. I asked them "How exactly is your home value lowered"? Other neighbors let them know that it was tried to get them removed. The developer and city aren't going to remove them. Now the neighbors want to take over the HOA so that we can pay to have them removed... I just don't get these neighbors... They have no idea how much things cost!!! Plus you bought the house knowing there was a curb behind your driveway!!!

Vent over but with happy dancing!!!

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
The complaining neighbor may have a point about backing out of their driveway. In my experience, though, street islands actually add to curb appeal.

When the township widened the major road leading to my community, they added landscaped islands in the middle to match the islands in the adjacent upscale city. They're attractive, have lovely flowering shrubs ... and I take my life in my own hands when I try to cross the major road since the plantings block my view of approaching traffic on the opposite side of the road. Sprinting across six lanes of traffic plus bike lanes plus island is now a major component of my fitness routine.

I usually favor functionality over aesthetics, but the aesthetics are real.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It's complicated as our street is basically in one city but our home addresses are in another city. The other city used "Islands" more than the other. Unfortunately with not good success. They became eyesores and traffic hinderance.

Our Islands vary in size and length in our HOA. They have some right at sidewalk crossing. They are more like "humps" with a sidewalk across the middle. The others are actual concrete islands with high curbs where plants are to be in the middle. They really cover the sewer pipes in the middle of the road. Hence the utilities play in the worst one. The sewer pipe covers pop up to the top which was done maybe on purpose?

It should be noted these were in place when these people's houses were being built. I got the lot right in front of one but my other neighbors were not so lucky. They got it right behind their driveways. We are NOT to park on the road anyways per the rules. So even with these islands people should not be parking there anyways. A fact that seems to slip by these complainers. Plus people on my street feel free to park in front of my house. Which blocks my mailbox and blocks going down the one way. I have to put my garbage cans on my grass instead of street to let people get by.

I just don't get why your going to say "It's going to reduce my home values". That argument holds no water. It makes it less attractive to buy. However, your not supposed to park in the street. Plus your driving skills backing in or out isn't a factor on house value. They are not well maintained. Mostly because of the HOA can't keep a lawncare contract. Which now that our MC is gone maybe lawncare will be interested in talking to us again...

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Forgot to mention that the islands in my area are only on wide streets (minimum of two traffic lanes on either side of the island) so getting into or out of driveways is not an issue. The beer trucks that deliver to various businesses have no trouble with them. There is an island in a narrower street leading into a nearby HOA, but there aren't any homes along that street, only lots of lovely landscaping.

I agree that not maintaining the plantings does the opposite of adding curb appeal ...
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
One of biggest issues is lawn care. Have no idea why can not keep any. An owner or two have tried. Seems they do one now and poof gone. So the islands in the steam get neglected. I have put solar lights so people can see them at night. For some reason the complainers and haters seem to remove them. Guess to give more reason to complain... Not resolve.

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
They may be stealing the solar lights. I can't imagine anyone complaining about something that helps keep them from damaging their cars in the dark. But that last several years have convinced me that I have no clue how the human race thinks.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Then you have met my neighbors? Lol. I found out the kids next door took a few but the others farther up.

One day came home to find a car parked at the end of the island area. Blocking the entire roadway. This was a few days. A bus had to turn around in my driveway and others as could not pass.

So I posted '"hey the bus is being blocked so can move car as to not block traffic flow? " Turns out my next door neighbor responds. " It was my birthday and my friend was parking there". As if that was an excuse. Mind you their driveway was empty and have a 2 car garage.... She makes her husband move his truck so she parks in garage. So I know there was parking available at her house! So rude!

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LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
Posted:
Why is it these traffic islands seem to be a universal problem? We have some in our community. Keeping the landscaping alive and looking good is an issue. I have one homeowner who continually harasses me because he doesn't think the ones in his area look good. Ours are purely decorative.

I am so tired of hearing the argument about property values. It's easy to throw those words around, but there's no way to measure whether it's really true. Most people who are buying a home look at the inside of the home, look a lot less at the outside of the home other than the "curb appeal" first impression, and do a couple of drive-throughs around the neighborhood. Very few people are going to look at the condition of a traffic island and make that the deciding factor on buying a home.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By LoriM15 on 12/01/2023 7:40 AM
Why is it these traffic islands seem to be a universal problem? We have some in our community. Keeping the landscaping alive and looking good is an issue. I have one homeowner who continually harasses me because he doesn't think the ones in his area look good. Ours are purely decorative.

I am so tired of hearing the argument about property values. It's easy to throw those words around, but there's no way to measure whether it's really true. Most people who are buying a home look at the inside of the home, look a lot less at the outside of the home other than the "curb appeal" first impression, and do a couple of drive-throughs around the neighborhood. Very few people are going to look at the condition of a traffic island and make that the deciding factor on buying a home.

Times when I was looking to buy, neighborhood and curb appeal were very important to me. A few times when I did not like either, I never looked at the house. I would drive away immediately.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Lori I feel your pain. People confuse home value with home attraction. Home values are based on real numbers. What has sold or foreclosed for in last 6 months. The houses has to be similar in size, bedroom, and bath. Location within a few miles.

I tell people I did not buy a house because I hated the wallpaper. Did that make the home values go down? No. It just made one less possible buyer attracted to purchase. The home is still worth what bank will approve loan for.

So having a difficult driveway to back out is your assigned reason no one will buy. I could not like the bathroom or kitchen.

It should be noted one can claim the HOA effected their home values in a way house does not sell for asking price. However they would need a buyer willing to write down reason did not put down earnest money and offer directly related to the HOA issue they claim. Plus go to court if needed. However if the house sold then that member is no longer a HOA member to have a lawsuit against their HOA. Plus all could sue for is the difference in price sold for than asked in opinion of house value...

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
One thing the traffic islands can do is give a hint as to how well the community is being managed. Dead or dying plants? Weeds? Ratty-looking mulch? Damaged concrete? I'd conclude that either the board doesn't care or that there are financial issues (inadequate assessments, maybe reserves are also underfunded). Well cared for landscaping suggests that the community is being well managed.

You can't rely on it, though. Beautiful landscaping can also mean boards that prioritize looks over the boring stuff like actually maintaining infrastructure. Dying plants can mean we're in the midst of a drought.

Around my neck of the woods, the islands say "our streets are wide enough and we have enough money to spend on maintaining things that are merely decorative". I think most real estate is aspirational. It's why developers and builders usually put attractive monuments and landscaping at their communities' entrances, and why model homes usually go with a neutral, minimalist, upscale look. Buyers want to believe that this new home is going to make their lives better.

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