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JonathanS6 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Hello everyone.

In Florida, if an ARC denies a request, do they have to give a reason?
(if they do, does anyone know that Statute or case law that would require this?)
JonathanS6 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
I should add that there is no specific requirement in any of the HOA's Governing Documents which would require that a reason be given.
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
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I'm in CA, third time on our HOA Board. I feel a member should know the reason for any denial. #1- They can edit their request to accomplish their goal. #2- the Board should be educating their members about their governing documents. #3- Lack of transparency creates unnecessary ill-will in a community.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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An ARC not stating the reason they denied a request is asking for trouble.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I am not sure if it's a requirement as much as "good practice". Usually providing a reason will help in making adjustments to the request if needed. Example: We had someone submit a request to build a 6 foot fence. Which is allowed. However, their lot/house was a corner lot. The layout of the 6 foot fence would appear to be in their front yard. We only allow fences in the back yard. Plus for safety concerns it would also block the view of the Stop Sign. We told the owner no to the 6 foot fence. We did decide they could have a variance on next application to taper the fence from 6 foot down to 4 foot when it turned the corner. This would allow them to keep their small dogs in the yard and still provide a view of the stop sign.

Now there are times where we have to flat out deny a request. Mostly if it's against the rules. We had a person request a basketball goal. The location they wanted was at a dangerous blind spot near the dumpsters. The kids could get run over by a car. Basketball goals are allowed if moveable. Have to be wheeled in and out for use. Can not attach to a home.

So you have to take the request and research it. It's not always one and done. There are factors that make one similar request different from another. You need to explain why.

Former HOA President
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
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It's not legally required to provide a reason, but as someone else said, it's good practice. You could ask the person who sent you the letter (property manager or board member) and I'm sure they will tell you. If what you requested is a clear violation of the governing document rules, then that's pretty obvious. If their denial is based on the "harmonious to the community" language, then they should give you a clear explanation of why your request doesn't fit in and what you can do to get your change approved.

I just went to a legal webinar on architectural committees in Florida. Your ARC has to have a pretty good reason to deny if using the "harmonious" rule or they are opening themselves up to possible legal issues. In Florida, you need specfic rules in your governing documents.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
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The initials ARC stands for Architectural REVIEW Committee. They review the paperwork that has been turned to ensure that everything looks correct. Then the committee makes a RECOMMENDATION to the Board to approve or deny the request. The ARC members are not ELECTED by the association residents, the Board of Directors are. The Board should be the only ones to formally deny all requests. The Board is responsible to the Owners.
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
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Posted By MichaelS56 on 11/14/2023 7:20 AM
The initials ARC stands for Architectural REVIEW Committee. They review the paperwork that has been turned to ensure that everything looks correct. Then the committee makes a RECOMMENDATION to the Board to approve or deny the request. The ARC members are not ELECTED by the association residents, the Board of Directors are. The Board should be the only ones to formally deny all requests. The Board is responsible to the Owners.

That's not the way it works in many HOAs in Florida. The ARC (in our case it's called a board) members are appointed by the the board of directors, but they have authority to make decisions. The board of directors only gets involved if a homeowner appeals the decision. All of the HOAs I know about here operate this same way.
RobertC43 (Florida)
Posts: 13
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I chair our ARB. I prefer giving an explanation for denial. If you explain the denial, I find most understand where you are coming from. Leaving residents in the dark is poor business and only breeds hate.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By RobertC43 on 11/14/2023 11:07 AM
I chair our ARB. I prefer giving an explanation for denial. If you explain the denial, I find most understand where you are coming from. Leaving residents in the dark is poor business and only breeds hate.

I agree.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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I agree too, for gawd's sake, give the reason(s). Come application can be adjusted if the denials are fixable.

MichaelS of MN has posted numerous times that ARCs may not make decisions only the Board of Directors may. Perhaps that's tru in his HOA. Perhaps that even true in MN. But it is not true in many other states including in CA.

Lori's posting reflect CA. Th applicant may appeal to the board.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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If an owner goes to court and challenges the rejection, the court will require that the HOA explain its reasoning. Furthermore IMO, I think a judge would give the HOA attorney the evil eye when the HOA attorney explains that the board/ARC does not give its reasoning. The judge knows full well that the HOA's explanation might have prevented this dispute from landing in court in the first place.

As far as I am concerned, for a rejection to "stick," an explanation is legally required.

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