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EricA1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I live in small HOA and our Annual meeting is coming up and our Board in a news letter to the community stated that they intend to change the wording of the By-Law regarding Term of office for the Directors. Right now it states "At the first annual meeting the members shall elect one director for a term of one year, one director for a term of 2 years and one director for three years, and at each annual meeting thereafter the members shall be elected for a term of three years. We have a five member Board, so at each annual meeting there are always 3 positions to vote for and then one person is elected to the three year and the other two are in for one year.
So now the Board wants to do away with the present wording and basically allow them to chose there own term of office with no proper guidelines to follow. Shouldn't there be a limit in writing for members to follow so that there is always a turnaround otherwise you can end up with a dictatorship if they decide they all want a five year term?
Also Since they are planning to do this at the annual meeting the By-laws state you only need a majority vote of members present in person or by proxy. At every meeting for the past ten years only the same 20 homeowners show up out of 84 homes. For a quorum you only need 1/10 th of members present so that is usuall y covered. In the packet sent out for the annual meeting they did not enclose and kind of proxy form for members who can not show up to cast there vote.
Does this sound like the proper way to conduct this. Always in the past ballots were sent out and everyone given a chance to vote.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
The length AND number of terms of office should be stated in the bylaws. The Board should not be allowed to set their own terms - you many not be able to get rid of any old wood or bad board members.

Are you having problems filling the positions? Good board members are hard to find. You should have some kind of options to re-elect a good person over and over again.
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Eric:

Proxy ballots should have gone out with the Notice of the Annual Meeting, so the out of Towners can vote as well. As for the amendment to the Bylaws that requires a percentage of the membership to change. The board cannot just change them without a membership vote.

Check your governing documents to see what they say.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
EricA1: It is normal for the first election to have staggered terms of office to ensure that 'new blood' coming in for the subsequent elections will be on a Board with 1 veteran Board member. That is the ideal way.

Also, for the first election, usually the candidate receiving the most votes takes the longest term of office (3yrs), the second most votes the next longest term (2yrs) and so on.

Remember, the term is assumed by an elected B-member, then the role. It is up to the Board members collectively--each year there is an election with 'new blood'--to review B-members and abilities and then choose among themselves who will fill what Role.

SharonM3 (Virginia)
Posts: 23
Posted:
If your association's first AM was in 2005 or earlier, your by-laws already are correct; either one or two (not three!) positions should be up; and every board member gets a three-year term. Every year, either one or two board positions are up (staggered 2/2/1 in some order). This allows for fresh blood, but also allows for some institutional memory. Caveat: depending on further reading of your by-laws, if the board fills a vacant board position outside of a regular AM, your by-laws might state that that that appointed board member's position is to be voted on at the next AM; in this case, then you could have the one or two regularly-scheduled 3-year terms, plus the remainder of the appointee's term. (The appointee's position may be up at the next AM anyway, in which case you'd have only one or two positions available for election.) Other than appointments to fill vacancies, no board member has a one-year term, according to your by-laws, after the first AM (ie. the person(s) elected for a one-year term at the first AM can run at the next AM - but only for a three-year term.

Given that the board doesn't understand its own by-laws, has it consulted the assn's attorney for clarification before it amends something that doesn't need to be amended?

The association votes for the board members, who then vote for which board member will hold which office.

TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
This is pretty much what our by-law says except that it goes on to state that the membership can vote to fix terms for year each.

I agree that there should be a defined term. As for terms limits/turn around . . . it is hard to find volunteers let alone good directors. Periodic voting and recall processes help to prevent dictatorships.
BobS10 (Connecticut)
Posts: 39
Posted:
I'm curious, does anyone's bylaws include term limits?
My experience not just with our condo board but other boards I am on, they do not employ term limits.
While that may have some advantages, I see it really being abused.
Inevitably, the outgoing board members say they want to stay on, and the railroad is running, and they are "perpetual board members".
New people get frustrated and walk away.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
BobS10: Board members cannot just 'stay on' because they want to. What happened to holding elections and voting for nominated candidates? Let the people speak by their votes cast.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Yes, I was on a board with 3 year term, 3 term limit, then (off one year) and then eligible for re-election.
BobS10 (Connecticut)
Posts: 39
Posted:
Like I said, the railroad is alive and well.
Those that know the "real agenda" and how things are going to happen, have a distinct advantage over the new person that is not familar with the way things are going to play out.
A board can very easily steer things the way they want and not break any rules.
BobS10 (Connecticut)
Posts: 39
Posted:
So let me understand this Susan, you were on the board for 9 years, then off one, now back on again for up to another 9?
I sure am glad our US President can't do that!
Oh wait, isnt' that almost what Bill Clinton is trying to do?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
I did not say I SERVED or AM SERVING those terms, but the option was there.
EricA1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thanks for all the replies.
New members are not hard to find. But good ones seem to be. This Board does not like long meetings but specifically having elections every year. The current president has his own views and interpertations and if you question him you are unreasonable in his eyes as his interpertations are the ony way. And this is documented by him in his official deposition from a previous Law Suit which he was involved in.
As I stated in the past any type of change was conducted with a vote and all members were delivered a ballot and a proxy form and either turned in at the meeting or mailed in. But everyone was given the chance to vote. Now they do not send out the ballot or a proxy nor do they send the packets to the homeowner who lives out of town but give it to the renter.
Trying not to let this HOA fall in to a hole it can not get out of. So I guess I will Be the most unreasonable person in this HOA.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Bob,
That last sentence was a NO NO!

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