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ChrisP19 (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Our HOA has failed to hold elections for the past four years, resulting in appointed board members instead of elected ones. This year, there will finally be an election, but the current board members are inexperienced with the process and our new property management company is also unfamiliar with the process. They have previously only managed rentals and have made mistakes in providing incorrect information to our community of 125 units. As a result, we are seeking advice on how to ensure the election process is fair and proper, despite the lack of knowledge from our board and management. Any suggestions or resources would be greatly appreciated.

TLDR
If the board and property management company are unsure of the policies and procedures around elections, how does the board confirm the elections are handled correctly?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The PM is NOT an HOA member. They are a paid contractor to the HOA to help them in whatever their contract says. The answers are in your Articles of Incorporation and/or CC&R's. Have you read any of your HOA documents to find out how elections and meetings work? It should ALL be right there in the documents.

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SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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First read your documents - there should be information on deadlines, nominations, etc. You might go to the board and suggest an election committee that could put together an election guide and send that to the homeowners or post it on the community website. The guide could provide information like

* where to submit a name (yours or someone else) as a candidate. A one page bio on the candidate's background, why he/she would like to serve and community issues he/she's particularly interested in should accompany the name

* overview of what board members do, along with the officers. You might want to note if the documents state the homeowners vote for board members and the board members appoint officers from among themselves and when that happens. There could be a separate organization meeting right after the annual meeting (when board elections are usually held) or the next regular board meeting

* deadline for submitting nominations. If your documents allow for nominations from the floor, that's ok - provide an explanation on how that will be done during the meeting

* how to use proxies (deadlines for submission, how to designate what it'll do, e.g. use it to establish quorum, etc.). If you look at older conversations on this website, you'll find many people are clueless on how to use them properly, and unscrupulous people use them to seize and hold onto power. You will need to provide blank copies of the proxy and should run it by your association attorney to make sure it has the right format. You'll need a deadline on when they should be submitted. If people decide to come to the meeting and cast their vote in person, the proxy submitted earlier will be canceled. If the unit has several owners, they, not the board, decide who will cast the vote or submit the proxy

* where to submit your name if you'd like to volunteer to be an election counter, or whatever you want to call it. The counters shouldn't have any relationship to whoever's running - they should check people in during the meeting, comparing names against a list of eligible homeowners (that should be defined by your documents - usually people who are current in all assessments and are on the title)

A "meet the candidates" event would be lovely, so people can listen to what the candidates have to say and ask questions.

How to ensure everything's decent and in order - how about YOU bring these suggestions to the board and volunteer to help out? As for the management company, they can assist the board in organizing the meeting and getting information out to homeowners, but remember, the BOARD, not the property manager, is ultimately responsible for making sure the election is run according to the community documents. An election committee can be helpful in monitoring who does what and that it's done properly.

Finally, if you haven't had board elections in four years, it's probably because there hasn't been a quorum during the annual meeting. That's because not enough people show up at the meeting or submit proxies so the elections can be held. Whose fault is that - the homeowners (all of you). If you are able to establish an election committee, that's something they need to be candid about and encourage people to participate, either by returning the proxies on time or actually showing up to cast a vote.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
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Posted By ChrisP19 on 08/15/2023 11:57 PM
Our HOA has failed to hold elections for the past four years, resulting in appointed board members instead of elected ones. This year, there will finally be an election, but the current board members are inexperienced with the process and our new property management company is also unfamiliar with the process. They have previously only managed rentals and have made mistakes in providing incorrect information to our community of 125 units. As a result, we are seeking advice on how to ensure the election process is fair and proper, despite the lack of knowledge from our board and management. Any suggestions or resources would be greatly appreciated.

TLDR
If the board and property management company are unsure of the policies and procedures around elections, how does the board confirm the elections are handled correctly?

Agree, check your governing docs for election requirements and state guidelines. I'm guessing you don't have election rules...that would be step one if your laws require it. Do you have professional inspectors of election in WA? They could help.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Are you on the Board, Chris? Shelia covers a lot of what your Board needs to think about and do. You can see that there are many steps involved. But all HOAs are different, and states are different too. There might be, for instance, a difference between how condo HOAs handle elections vs. detached home HOAs in WA. I think older HOAs might have different laws about them than newer ones. We had a regular poster from WA for quite some time and noticed that there right be more than one set of state statutes that affect your HOA re: elections.

I think in your state, now, owners may vote by absentee ballots or even electronically. Both of these methods increase turnout so that you have a quorum (enough % of require owners) to hold your annual meeting and election.

I think I'd start by simply Googling Condo HOA Elections in Washington State.That should give you the statutes with which your HOA must comply.

Maybe start with your HOA's Bylaws too, where you'll learn a lot, e.g., how many directors there should be, how long their terms are. You'll also see how officers are chosen. As Shelia notes, usually the new Board selects its officers from among themselves.

My complicated HOA hired a new onsite full-time Property mgr. a year ago. The Board chose someone very experienced with high rise buildings, elevators, pumps & motors, etc. etc. He's very good with our residents. BUT he was not HOA experienced. GAH! This has been a constant challenge to bring him up to speed in a state with lotsa HOA laws. Though retired from the Board, I've been called upon a to straighten out some mistakes. Most recently, he accepted an application for our board election and even announced it at an open board meeting from someone who does not qualify, which I had to point out to try to keep our hOA out of legal trouble. Sigh.

Because of my ongoing negative experiences with a green PM, and because your Board is inexperienced, I'd urge the Board to have your HOA attorney guide your Association every inch of the way. If your PM has a full-service management company to support your PM, that might help too. If you're not on the Board and are interested, ask if you can work to help set up a timeline and maybe help to count ballots as an inspector of elections (if WA has such a role).

Regular annual reliable elections are fundamental to healthy HOAs.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Say, Chris, on 7/27/23 I posted a sample Board member application form and a sample Candidate Statement. Not saying it's the best or anything like that, but it might give you some ideas to work with.

I also want today that when an ineligible candidates was announced at an open board meeting last month, I certainly did not question his eligibility AT the meeting. I emailed the PMC & Board presidium with questions because I didn't think he was an owner of record (req.in CA) & I didn't know if he'd been legally approved by the owner of record to serve on the board. The candidate did not qualify.
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 08/16/2023 4:44 AM
The PM is NOT an HOA member. They are a paid contractor to the HOA to help them in whatever their contract says. The answers are in your Articles of Incorporation and/or CC&R's. Have you read any of your HOA documents to find out how elections and meetings work? It should ALL be right there in the documents.

Our HOA documents say almost nothing about elections, proxies, nominations, deadlines, process....this is it:

"Voting by proxy shall be allowed."

That's it. Nothing else.
ChrisP19 (Washington)
Posts: 3
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That's how ours are as well. Nothing else about the process, deadlines, or nominations!
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Chris

A few things to keep in mind:

1. I assume all BOD positions will be open for election. Also define the BOD size.
2. If not enough candidates, then no election is necessary. Those wanting on, get on. They will then vote to fill any vacant positions.
3. If more candidates then positions, clarify the top vote getters get on. Say 5 of the 7 that ran assuming a 5 person BOD.
4. Decide on a tie breaking method such as flip a coin.
5. If staggered terms (which most are), then work out who gets what. As an example the top 3 vote getters get a two year term then next two vote getters get a one year term. Thus there will be some vacancies each year.
6. Retain a non interested 3rd party to oversee the election. I know one HOA that used a local Minister.
7. Allow all and any owners that are current in their dues to run. Do not try and eliminate anyone for any reason short of a convicted felon.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Based on a previous frequent contributor from WA (though he called himself Michael from ARK), WA HOA statues DO cover elections, etc. Chris just needs to do a better search or hire an attorney to help him/her find the statutes. Some sections of WA corporations code might help. Though JohnC's list makes sense, it might not fly in WA. You do not want an illegal election based on guesswork, Chris.

If you're on the Board or are a serious member of your HOA, you must try to avoid lawsuits.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Posted By ChrisP19 on 09/01/2023 10:31 AM
That's how ours are as well. Nothing else about the process, deadlines, or nominations!



There are HOAs (lots of them, sadly) where the developer used a cut and paste template to put together the Bylaws and CCRs without paying any attention to the details. As a practical matter, why should they - their purpose is to build the houses, sell them and then move on. How the homeowners choose to run the community is up to them (whether they figure out the best way to do that, who knows.)

Anyway, here's a link to Washington state's HOA law - between this, reading your documents and consulting with your association attorney, you should be able to come up with some procedures that make sense. In fact, reviewing the documents to see if other areas warrant more clarity. A special committee can do some research, talk to the attorney and then propose changes to the community to vote on. This could be an ongoing project that could get more homeowners involved - some may end up on the board and you can avoid these four-year periods or longer where all the board members are appointed because no one bothered to run or even cast a vote in a board election.

Don't worry about addressing everything all at once - the CCRs and Bylaws can address main issues while Board resolutions can provide the details - and it's faster to tweak resolutions than amend governing documents. For now, get this meeting done and then a committee can be commissioned to identify the holes, set priorities as to what should be addressed sooner rather than later and go on from there.

In the meantime, your documents say you can use proxies, but no details, consider this an opportunity to establish procedures that don't override the CCRs or Bylaws and make sense. The board can then pass them via Board resolution at an open meeting and distribute copies to the homeowners so there are no questions on what needs to be done. They can also be modified again as needed.
Start reading and go to the board with your observations and suggestions - have fun!

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.38&full=true

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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