ARC application resubmitted

One year is what was agreed to. Someone had a reason for including this condition and, if more time were needed, requiring a new application subsequently. My director's vote: New application, new consents required.

Hope you're hanging in there with your hostile, illogical fellow directors.

New application, but no new consent is required.

Kerry, Our ARC application (of many years) requires affected neighbor(s) consent. Lack of consent doesn't necessarily stop the project. NO...nothing damaging or new about applicant's project.. Sorry, didn't mean to mislead that PMC approved it. However I feel it's fair to say we expect PMC guidance and their expertise on these routine ARC apps. When I asked PMC if new consents were required with new application for another YEAR, she dodged the question by saying "consents were obtained 4/2022." Dodge ball has become management and BOD's favorite sport. Apathy has been our quicksand. Yes, PMC (owner) is recommending approval.

Ellen, This was a terrible criminal case alledging child predator issues plus possible entrapment. Unsure how I was one of the original jurors selected, ? RN/NP??, mother of 5, 80 years old, or simply a roll of the dice? During the 3 days of jury selection, the only question I was asked was something about being a mon of 5 kids. "How did you handle their conflicts?" "By number 3, my eyes and silence sent chills down their spine. Not much surprised me." At first vote in deliberation room, it was 6 vs 6. Yes, I completely understood their reasoning. We had agreed to be respectful of disagreement and it worked. Impressive panel!! The Judge and the 2 lawyers were excellent. The judge kept reminding us the evidence had to prove BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT...and we eventually had Court Reporter come in and re-read testimony. Then 11-1. The 1 vote was a young gal who NEVER made a comment during the entire deliberation. No questions, no comments, no eye contact with anyone. Never sat with anyone at lunch (which forbid trial conversation). Next vote became 12-0, not guilty. During jury selection (took 3 days) many had experienced or had a relative/close friend with issues discussed with this case. They were eventually excused. One
final juror fell asleep days 1 and 2 of trial and Judge excused him, recommending he have F/U with his physician. None of us waited after verdict to "talk to lawyers." We were drained!

Ellen, LOL...returning to HOA Talk, my criminal case juror experience just reinforced how apathy and assumptions can hurt the innocent. Remember I was CENSURED by BOD 3 months ago for "failing to uphold your fiduciary duties as a Director" at an executive meeting I wasn't allowed to attend. Censuring is meant to intimidate(failed!) and my failure to uphold fiduciary duties was/is EXACTLY the opposite of the facts. My recent juror experience reinforced the meaning of democracy.

Logical thinking is not her forte, is it?

To my understanding an ARC application is for the completion of stated items on the ARC form, it has no time expiration.

Kerry, This conversation has run it's course but to briefly respond: ARCHITECTUAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCEDURE, "all requests must be made on the standard Architectual application forms and include a completed copy of the submitted checklist and a Neighborhood Awareness Form. The actual ARCHITECTUAL CONTROL COMMITTEE MODIFICATION FORM has signiture spaces for 2 each- Facing, Adjacent, and Impacted neighbors and clearly states "I understand that neighbor objections do not in themselves cause denials." I didn't want to leave you hanging but I am choosing to redirect my energy to 2024 BOD recruitment. We often need to pick our battles.