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JenniferM20 (South Carolina)
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I am looking for advice on what HOA software and/or online payment companies work best and are inexpensive. Our HOA is a small community of all single-family homes. I am not a board member, but serve as secretary to the Board. I am working on getting all homeowners information into an Access database. Our HOA is 20 years old and still does everything on paper. We have several issues due to many years of neglect, so money is tight. The Board has recently turned over to active members who want to bring our HOA up to date. We have limited money to dedicate to this project, but we also have very small/simple needs. We want homeowners to have the ability to pay their annual dues online and also have access to the HOA covenants and other documents online. These are the 2 most important reasons we are looking into HOA software/websites. Any advice is welcome. Thank you in advance for your time.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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The posting rules on this website don't allow us to mention specific products, but here's some general information.

* You want to use something that is easily manageable by future boards and officers who may not have great computer skills. I've developed Access databases, I enjoyed working with it, but I recommend using something more "plain vanilla" - for example, the various Office suites that produce files in common formats such as xls, doc, pdf, and the like. There are paid and free versions of this software.

* I prefer to use something that's web accessible rather than software that's loaded onto individual computers. This gives you more flexibility.

* Data security is important! So is records retention. Keep these in mind when you pick a platform.

* Personal opinion on software that allows homeowners to pay their assessments online: unless you understand data security and you keep up with all of the latest malware hacks, you're better off leaving this to the professionals. I also think this isn't necessary since *many* financial institutions offer their customers free bill payment services that have all of the data protections that come with banking systems. I personally use my bank's services to pay my bills, including my assessments, and I'm not even slightly tempted to use a system offered by my association. It's also the only free option for paying assessments: my association charges to print coupon books, and they charge a small "convenience fee" for using our association's software. Nuts to that...
DavidG45 (Delaware)
Posts: 994
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Posted By JenniferM20 on 07/27/2023 9:05 PM
I am looking for advice on what HOA software and/or online payment companies work best and are inexpensive. Our HOA is a small community of all single-family homes. I am not a board member, but serve as secretary to the Board. I am working on getting all homeowners information into an Access database. Our HOA is 20 years old and still does everything on paper. We have several issues due to many years of neglect, so money is tight. The Board has recently turned over to active members who want to bring our HOA up to date. We have limited money to dedicate to this project, but we also have very small/simple needs. We want homeowners to have the ability to pay their annual dues online and also have access to the HOA covenants and other documents online. These are the 2 most important reasons we are looking into HOA software/websites. Any advice is welcome. Thank you in advance for your time.


Let me affirm everything that Cathy has said. I think an Access database is not the way to go; instead you should review some of the many online systems available specifically for HOA's. You will get a much more robust system that can be maintained by different, non-technical people throughout the years at a very reasonable cost.

We are not allowed to give you specific company names in this forum. However, if your want to take your "HOA" online in an "express" manner, a Google search would probably find something you would find helpful and which I have used with great success.

BuddyJ (Maryland)
Posts: 37
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Our local bank sets up a PO Box/Lock Box & prints barcoded coupons for our annual dues but we have to mail them out - they are currently doing the coupons for no charge. All of our typical bills are set up for auto-pay so there's very little work for our Treasurer. The other bills are paid through an online portal with our bank & the checks are mailed out. We pay a CPA accountant to do our annual review & taxes. I hope this helps.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By BuddyJ on 07/28/2023 1:45 PM
Our local bank sets up a PO Box/Lock Box & prints barcoded coupons for our annual dues but we have to mail them out - they are currently doing the coupons for no charge. All of our typical bills are set up for auto-pay so there's very little work for our Treasurer. The other bills are paid through an online portal with our bank & the checks are mailed out. We pay a CPA accountant to do our annual review & taxes. I hope this helps.

This is a good banking method for a self managed association. Also does not cost much to set up an informational web site that contains a copy of Covenants, Bylaws, etc. that one can access.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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An HOA can even have issues with a simple informational website. For example, who owns the domain name, and how do you pay for it and your site's hosting service? A lot of the services require payment via credit card, which the association probably won't have. The good thing about the popular web hosting services is that you can buy your domain name through them - buying through a separate domain name registrar can be a pain in the keister even if you know your way around this stuff.

Also, web hosting platforms can come and go. One of my favorites was bought by another company that specializes in the payment side of things, and they're gradually neglecting the needs of those who don't want to sell things online. I'm looking into moving my websites onto a different platform because of the little niggling errors and the lack of flexibility and support. It's too bad, because several years ago an inexperienced person could create an attractive and functional website without too much trouble.

There are plenty of association websites on the internet that are no longer being maintained. They, like board members, tend to come and go.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
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google drive is free and can make a free google website.

vis ta vie
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Google Sites is part of Google Workspace, which isn't free (and you need a credit card to sign up).

That said, the site templates look decent, and Google isn't going to be bought out by anyone. :-)
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By CathyA3 on 07/29/2023 1:21 PM
Google Sites is part of Google Workspace, which isn't free (and you need a credit card to sign up).

That said, the site templates look decent, and Google isn't going to be bought out by anyone. :-)

I take it back, there's now a free version of Google Workspace.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Why do you want HOA software and/or online payment company? I can see some advantage for a large community (manage logistics and spread the cost over a large pool), but I don’t see the advantage for a smaller community.

What I do see are a lot of disadvantages: you need someone tech-savvy to manage it and the hand-over if that person leaves or if you change software or payment company can be a nightmare, it can be tricky to find competent and available 24/7 tech help if something goes wrong, the initial set-up cost and perhaps ongoing cost will only be spread among a small pool of owners so everyone pays more, there is bound to be push back from some people, and security and privacy is an enormous nightmare (for this reason, alone, I would refuse to use it).

Personally, I think an Access database is fine for a small community. Once it is set up, it is only a matter of keeping it up-to-date. It is fast and easy for the owners to automate their HOA fee payment through their bank so there is no advantage to them to have an online payment portal. Your treasurer should be reconciling your bank statements monthly, anyway, so any problems (such as late payments) will be instantly spotted. As for the CC&Rs and documents, the owners should already have a copies, but if not, you can easily do an email blast.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By LizD3 on 07/29/2023 3:33 PM
Why do you want HOA software and/or online payment company? I can see some advantage for a large community (manage logistics and spread the cost over a large pool), but I don’t see the advantage for a smaller community.

What I do see are a lot of disadvantages: you need someone tech-savvy to manage it and the hand-over if that person leaves or if you change software or payment company can be a nightmare, it can be tricky to find competent and available 24/7 tech help if something goes wrong, the initial set-up cost and perhaps ongoing cost will only be spread among a small pool of owners so everyone pays more, there is bound to be push back from some people, and security and privacy is an enormous nightmare (for this reason, alone, I would refuse to use it).

Personally, I think an Access database is fine for a small community. Once it is set up, it is only a matter of keeping it up-to-date. It is fast and easy for the owners to automate their HOA fee payment through their bank so there is no advantage to them to have an online payment portal. Your treasurer should be reconciling your bank statements monthly, anyway, so any problems (such as late payments) will be instantly spotted. As for the CC&Rs and documents, the owners should already have a copies, but if not, you can easily do an email blast.

This is not 1993, software to run websites on various free platforms is no harder than making a word document. The website doesn't need security just a link to the bank's drop box webpage is all that is needed.

vis ta vie
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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We had an individual put a lot of time into a database. They had everything in it.
20 years after that individual moved, I was in the role where I had access to the records.
The flash drive that went to everyone who served in that role after her had all the database files on it.

Since I had the program, I opened the database and discovered that nobody kept the files up to date.

I expected that this was due to lack of knowledge or lack of access to the program to run the database.

Because of this discovery, we chose to stay with paper.
The exceptions were that the Treasurer would use a common spreadsheet program (and created instructions on how to use it) and everyone used the common word processor.
We would digitize files in pdf format for archival purposes.

Our Association is self managed.
There is no office or Association computer.
Who serves in the future may or may not have computer knowledge of those who are currently serving.
Therefore, we chose to keep the work at the easiest to understand level.
Paper documents was our choice to implement that decision.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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Posted By LizD3 on 07/29/2023 3:33 PM
Personally, I think an Access database is fine for a small community. Once it is set up, it is only a matter of keeping it up-to-date.

Umm.. no.

Ask for a show of hands at your next HOA meeting..... how many of you know how to use and can update MS Access? No one will raise their hands.

A simple excel file is about the most complicated file I would trust to maintained for decades.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By SteveM9 on 08/04/2023 7:19 AM
Posted By LizD3 on 07/29/2023 3:33 PM
Personally, I think an Access database is fine for a small community. Once it is set up, it is only a matter of keeping it up-to-date.


Umm.. no.

Ask for a show of hands at your next HOA meeting..... how many of you know how to use and can update MS Access? No one will raise their hands.

A simple excel file is about the most complicated file I would trust to maintained for decades.


I agree, using it is one thing but Access isn't particularly easy to maintain, and I say that as an ex-IT person. You also may be tied to a particular type of hardware, although even my Kindle tablet claims to run Office 365 nowadays (it doesn't according to a number of comments on Amazon, and I didn't notice if Access was even included in this version of Office 365).

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