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MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Many of you know been having issues in my neighborhood with people with "pet" issues. It's so bad I drive my dogs 10 miles OUTSIDE of my neighborhood to walk them! I can't handle the Ring cams pointed at my dog's butt when I walk by. Can't risk them posting a picture or a rant about my dog's paw touching their grass.

Today post took the cake! Today is garbage day. Cans are out on side of the road. A new neighbor decided to go on a rant because someone put dog poo in their garbage can! OMG the HORROR! You means someone picked up after their dog and threw in a garbage can? I guess your supposed to keep walking with a doggy bag in your hand till you get to your own? Who knew? What is even funnier or scarier? Others are on their side calling this person a "crappy" person who did it!

My response to the picture with a poo the size of a golf ball in a trash can? Why did you toss away the foreman grill? That was in the picture too. (Could have recycled it...)

Okay is it now just me that think WTF???

BTW: Earlier in the day someone posted a picture of a loose dog complaining people need to keep their dog leashed! (A LOOSE DOG! No owner). They complained the dog (A small beagle mix) growled at their dog and they were walking their daughter. Mind you they took several pictures of the loose dog from a distance. Nothing happened. So I asked "Did you call Animal control?". Her response. No. My daughter and dog were safe... I am like is the dog still loose??? I am thinking "Why are you posting this on social media 2 hours after it hapened ad didn't call animal control for a loose pet????

COMMON SENSE is all I ask...

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AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Melissa, this is a huge topic in Florida...people using other people's trash receptacles to dump their (picked up) dog poop. Things can leak, things can smear; the owners of those trash cans do not have pets nor put poop in them. They may keep their trash cans extremely clean. To have a stranger use their personal trash cans isn't acceptable. Sorry. They aren't public trash cans.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By AnnaD2 on 06/30/2023 3:13 PM
this is a huge topic in Florida...people using other people's trash receptacles to dump their (picked up) dog poop. Things can leak, things can smear; the owners of those trash cans do not have pets nor put poop in them. They may keep their trash cans extremely clean. To have a stranger use their personal trash cans isn't acceptable. ... They aren't public trash cans.
I agree.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It should be noted the people who own the garbage can have dogs...

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I know, it's garbage and will be picked up soon enough. But I can understand why people get upset when others throw things into their trash cans.

* Poop stinks. It especially stinks in summer. If folks have to keep their cans in their garages, they'd prefer the cans to stink less.

* The can is for the owner's convenience, not for everyone else who walks by. The owner pays for the can as well as for trash collection. They may even pay a variable rate for collection depending on how many cans are put out.

* One of the "joys" of dog ownership is shlepping bags of poop around the neighborhood.

* Or put the poop in yer own danged cans if it's "no big deal".

That said, I agree your community is over the top, and this is a prime example of why our lawyer strongly discouraged use of social media by their clients. Right now the issues are keeping themselves going and would probably simmer down quite a bit if the complainers didn't have a platform to spout from. Complainers should provide their own platforms if they want to spew.
DavidG45 (Delaware)
Posts: 994
Posted:

I would never toss my dog's poop bags into a random garbage can. It has been tempting some days, but in the end it just feels unacceptable. It's less of an issue now since we installed dog stations throughout the area, so you never have to walk more than a couple of blocks carrying the dog.

But imo carrying around a bag filled with dog poop is part of pet ownership, and a pretty small inconvenience.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
There was a loose dog running around earlier that day that left a present. I assume someone picked it up and put it in the nearest garbage can. That is what I would do. Especially since it was garbage pick up day.

Honestly, it is just really over the top here with the dog stuff. That is why I now respond "Call animal control". My own dogs have their own car I drive them 10 miles or more to the closest park. Just so I can walk my dogs in peace. I am getting paranoid when I let them run to the back of the car door in my own driveway/garage! I keep their leashes in the car. Heaven forbid 20 feet walk to an open door will set them off...


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LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
This is why we have pet waste stations throughout our community. On a side note I had a Gladys Kravitz chew my Arse out
because the inside of my trash and recycle cans are dirty. I refuse to pay a company to clean them and we don't have sewers in the
street or garage, and I won't spray them out on the rocks in my side yard.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 06/30/2023 2:52 PM

I guess your supposed to keep walking with a doggy bag in your hand till you get to your own? Who knew? .

I do.

It's called common courtesy.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I have two dogs. Plus it was garbage day. I have been known to pick up trash and throw it in the nearest garbage can. Rather have it in a can than on the ground. I have no problem with someone tossing something like trash into my bin within reason.

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ND (PA)
Posts: 792
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 06/30/2023 2:52 PM
... I guess your supposed to keep walking with a doggy bag in your hand till you get to your own? ...

Yup, that's how it should work.

Take responsibility for yourself and for the animals you've chosen to have as pets. It's nobody else's responsibility but yours to do everything necessary to ensure they are always under proper control and not running loose, and that their waste is collected immediately and then disposed of in your own trash can. Your choice, you're responsibility. Others have chosen to not have pets or to have different pets than you. They are in no way responsible for anything having to do with your pets.

(And before you go on about how it's not you, it's someone else doing this and someone else complaining. Who cares? You continue bringing these dopey situations here, so I attribute the idiocy to you and direct my replies to you.)

Just because you think something should happen a certain way or have an opinion on how things should be does not mean your views are shared by others. Hopefully you can see from the responses here that what you think is most definitely not how others think.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Again this is why I do not walk my dogs in my neighborhood...

Btw as I stated the poo came from a loose dog earlier in the day that left it. I assume someone choose to pick it up and put it in the nearest garbage can.

I tell people to call animal control if they have a problem. Sometimes it is not even a problem. They just make it one. Seriously my neighbors had their dogs tied up in their garage with the door open for dogs to dry off. Police were called. Where was the problem? Dogs on leashes. Inside their house.

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ND (PA)
Posts: 792
Posted:
How in the world do you know that the poo that ended up in a neighbor's trash can with picture posted to fb was the same poo from a loose dog earlier in the day that some random neighbor decided to pick up and put in another neighbor's trash can?!

When you're not driving your dogs 10 miles from your house to walk them or reminding everyone to call animal control, are you sitting at your front window with laptop in hand so you can stay up-to-date with fb postings and relay the latest neighborhood shenanigans to us here?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Yes I am ND you caught me. I am waiting on the next post now.

My point was how absolutely ridiculous my HOA is about dogs and pets. It is scary to think what happens when the owners take over...

Seriously people have flat out threatened to kill a loose dog! Plus insist on somehow a loose dog needs to be wearing a Leah? How does that happen logistically? My dog in my fenced yard is not on a leash. That means if the dog escapes the fenced in area the neighbors will have a fit that one is irresponsible for not having a leash on it. I do not know the rest of the universe but the meaning of a loose dog is that it escaped a leash. So it would be running around without one. These people go on a tirade instead calling the authorities or posting pictures for owner to locate

There is no need to threaten a pets life just because you do not like them. That IMO is immature.

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/03/2023 7:42 AM
I do not know the rest of the universe but the meaning of a loose dog is that it escaped a leash. So it would be running around without one.
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Or it was never leashed to begin with.

I'm not defending people who go on tirades or threaten to kill a pet. The first is completely ineffective, and second is cruel and immoral (IMHO).

But people don't erupt like this for no reason. Communities with courteous residents who comply with their pet restrictions don't have people threatening them and theirs, except for the occasional "neighborhood crazy" and there are always a few who find their reasons to spout. If a community is in this much turmoil, it's almost certainly due to rude and selfish owners combined with a board that isn't reining them in for whatever reason.

Enforce the pet restrictions, and much of the hollering should subside. You want your pet to run loose? Buy acreage outside of an HOA and knock yourself out.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/03/2023 7:42 AM
Seriously people have flat out threatened to kill a loose dog!
If they were ever bitten by a loose dog, this response today is not surprising.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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I can not explain the crazy some of these people exude. There is a woman who a cat got on her porch. She went on a tirade about how she hates animals. Claims her kids are allergic etc. Mind you the cat is not anywhere near her or the kids. It was on her porch outside for a few minutes.
Yesterday 2 dogs got loose due to storms. The person posted ring footage for owner to come get. Did not leave their house or anything to post come get dogs. This lady went off on how scared she would be to see the dogs. Just to see the dogs!

We have not had a dog bite situation so far. Just people stating fears instead of reasoning.

Like the lady did not call animal control or warn anyone about a loose dog once she was away from the dog for hours after. She was like my daughter not in danger so why should I call or post to find owner? Duh...

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ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/03/2023 8:21 AM
We have not had a dog bite situation so far. Just people stating fears instead of reasoning.
I do not see reasoning in your claim that "no dog bite situation so far" means people should not be objecting to loose dogs.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
They need to call animal control. Instead they are posting threats against the loosed dogs or demanding irrational conditions.

Like we are going to have fireworks nearby. Dogs will get scared and escape. It happens all the time in storms or fireworks. These people will go on a tirade about how irresponsible an owner is and how they should keep it contained. Well no matter how good of an owner you are accidents happen. They get out. You go look for them. I would like the ability to go do so before someone tries to kill it.

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ND (PA)
Posts: 792
Posted:
This is so dumb, and so am I for continuing to respond.

Talk about irrational ... nobody is going to kill your dog even if they threaten to do so on fb. Only time someone might kill your dog is if it's viscious and approaches them to attack ... in which case they should kill your dog.

Again, YOUR DOG, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY for anything and everything that happens ... even "accidents" which must happen regularly, as you post about it all the time ... in which case they are not accidents but sheer stupidity and irresponsibility on the pet owner's part.

I previously posted a handful of common sense ideas on how to prevent your dog from "accidentally" escaping.

And fireworks and weather are known events ... keep your pets inside as step 1 in preventing them from "accidentally" escaping.

Maybe instead of insisting that all your neighbors call animal control all the time, while you're sitting at your window watching the escaped pets poo around the neighborhood, maybe you can reach out to the pet owners and let them know their pet has once again "accidentally " escaped.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Nd I do notify when I see a pet out. I also tell anyone to bring it to my house and put it in my backyard if they want till owner knows about. Several owners do this as well. We even have a section pinned for pictures of everyones pets in the hood to look up owners. Simply take a pic and post it. Someone will respond with I will go get it.

My dogs are Pug mixes. They do not get along with other dogs. They love kids. However they mostly ignore everything and everyone. They have no real interest in doing anything but sniffing.

It is my neighbors who watch every dogs butt with their ring cams. My dogs can not pee on a mulched ugly road island without someone complaining a dog peed on it. I am so tired of it that I just drive them to a field or park. They are always by my side. Even if I took leash off of them they come back to beg me to put it on. They like dragging me behind them.

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BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
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Posted By ElleN on 07/03/2023 8:06 AM
Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/03/2023 7:42 AM
Seriously people have flat out threatened to kill a loose dog!
If they were ever bitten by a loose dog, this response today is not surprising.

I think threatening to kill loose dogs is over-the-top.

However, as I believe I've mentioned here previously, some years ago my son and his girlfriend were walking our dog in my neighborhood and were attacked by a loose vicious dog. So people who can't control their pets don't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.

Also, re the doggy doo - it's cropped up here before, as well. A critical question: is the poo going into the trashcan before or after the trash has been collected? Before is IMHO no big deal. After is 'problematic', and brings to mind Chuck's resolution to the "dog poop incident" on Billions.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The dog poo was before garbage was dumped. I noticed they had a George Foreman grill in there on top of a dog food bag. The poo was the size of a golf ball.

Today's adventure is fireworks and dog fright... My dogs are on me like a blanket.

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LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 07/04/2023 6:54 PM
The dog poo was before garbage was dumped. I noticed they had a George Foreman grill in there on top of a dog food bag. The poo was the size of a golf ball.

Today's adventure is fireworks and dog fright... My dogs are on me like a blanket.

I feel your pain, my under 10# dog was trembling in terror for hours the past two nights. She clung to me like superglue.
LayaS (Nebraska)
Posts: 249
Posted:
I know this is not HOA related but I heard that those thundershirts work pretty well. My vet prescribed an anti-anxiety medication for my dogs. We gave both of our dogs 1/2 pill and it calmed them down. I don't believe in medicating animals unnecessarily but the situation required some intervention. My town has a very generous fireworks policy. It began last Friday and went through the 4th of July. People may begin at noon and must end by 11:00 pm CDT. We had to put up with the noise for 5 full days. As you can see, I am not a fan of fireworks. Last night some youngsters shot off fireworks well past 11:00 pm and they were in the vacant lot directly behind my house. That is my rant on fireworks. Glad its over.

This does bring up a question though. Can HOA policies prohibit fireworks in their neighborhoods?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You can put that restriction in if you want on fireworks. How going to enforce it? It has to be in the finings schedule to enforce. Plus your HOA may say 10 pm for noise. The county may say 12. The county has law enforcement not HOA rules enforcement powers.

I hate fireworks myself but not to the point of not allowing them. My reasoning is need to clean up. If not, then may send the bill for cleaning up. Plus any damage is the fireworks firer responsibility. Not the HOA. I would never want the HOA to pay and put on a show. Too much liability.

My dogs were pretty mellow but also did not expose them to the fireworks.

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LayaS (Nebraska)
Posts: 249
Posted:
oops sorry I didn't read the post on Bylaws vs County Ordinances posted by Elaine1. I haven't been around the site for a while.

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