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JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Our association board does not maintain the common area property of their 14 condominiums. As a result, we are quickly becoming low cost housing. They have not done any weed control or lawn fertilization for over 15 years.

They do not raise the rent, because some owners say they cannot afford it. Sorry, but they should move out. Our president favors them over the rest of us.

They do not have enough Reserve Funds to repair or maintain anything.

They have only one handyman who certainly cannot keep up with the requirements.

The board only meets with the owners twice a year, and do not communicate with them the rest of the time.

We have spent over $4,000.00 repairing things the association should pay for. We could go on and on about this place!

They have breached their contract many times.

We are almost 80 years old, and do not like fighting for everything. We can't afford hiring a lawyer - can you give us any recommendations?

Thanks,

Jim & Patt Johnsen

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
JamesJ17,

In Minnesota, the only mechanism for forcing the board to comply with statutes and the covenants is through either (1) a threat of a lawsuit and as needed, an actual lawsuit; or (2) getting on the board with people who feel as you do.

The courts say that the covenants and bylaws are contractual terms, enforceable in the courts.

If you keep reading at this forum, you will see that amateur, unskilled boards who cater to those who do not want to raise the assessment (and so let the grounds fall into disrepair) are common. It's a terrible legal structure. But it has provided housing over the decades.

If you cannot either move, get good people on the board, or afford a lawyer, then you have to find a way to live with this.
MarkS42 (North Carolina)
Posts: 70
Posted:
You have 2 choices

1) Get involved in the process. Write an email or letter stating that you would like to attend the next meeting. All the woes that the HOA are probably not all due to the current board. We are in a 16 unit condo complex. For the first 16 years. the initial boards did not contribute anything to reserves.

2) Consider selling and moving somewhere else. If you do take this route, request to see how well the HOA is funded before signing an offer.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
You're in a situation that's being faced by many condo associations: not enough money to do what they need to do.

It can be hard for owners to know exactly where the money is going without digging through the financials. Owners usually have a right to inspect these records, which should include bank statements as well as more general information.

There are a number of normal expenses that homeowners don't see. The big one is insurance on the common area. A community can't do without it. Premiums have been spiking across the country, and your board would not be the first to prioritize that over things like keeping up with weeding and trimming. (I'm in a 74 unit condo community, just under 20 years old, no amenities, and insurance is our single biggest budget item.)

Raising assessments when some of the owners can't afford it isn't always a clear cut decision. If you do, then those owners will very likely stop paying assessments, Then the board has to pay legal costs for filing liens, collection actions, and possibly foreclosure. These legal expenses can really add up and can exceed the amount of money that the delinquent owners owe. The smaller the community, the greater the impact. It sounds like your board has decided that raising assessments could potential cost money in the long run.

Long story short, this isn't a simple or easily answered question. Because it definitely sounds like raising assessments is needed and your community is living on borrowed time - but this could make things worse in the short run.

I'll quote what I often tell people: your personal options will boil down to live with it, fix it, or move. Living with means betting that the place won't totally fall apart before you get out. Fixing it, as I said, means raising assessments and probably elect board members who are willing to do so. Lots of work, difficult and unpopular decisions. Or you believe that things realistically can't get any better and you sell before they get worse. The one thing I would rule out is legal action: that will only dig you and the association even deeper into the financial hole, and the person filing the lawsuit often becomes the community pariah and ends up moving anyway.

I'm sorry that this isn't a more hopeful answer.
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Thanks Mark for your great advice and concern.

JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Cathy,

Thanks so much for your great advice! You have taught us a lot.

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Cathy,

Thanks so much for your great advice! You have taught us a lot.

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
ElleN,
Thanks for your input!
Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
ElleN,
Thanks for your input!
Jim
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Can you clarify raising the rent? A HOA typically does not rent property. They raise dues. A HOA is only funded by it's members for it's members.

Former HOA President
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Melissa,

I meant to say raise the dues.

Thanks,

Jim
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Using herbicides that kill weeds is bad for the environment. They are probably just trying to keep the earth nice for your grandkids.
since one can't eat grass, fertilizing it is kind of waste too. run off from fertilizer can cause alege blooms which can kill wildlife.

most bylaws allow the membership to reject the budget, start with that, if that doesnt' work then run for the board and see what you can auatomatically raise the budget to. most docs state something like 10 to 20% per year.

vis ta vie
JamesJ17 (Minnesota)
Posts: 23
Posted:
Wendy,
Thanks for your input. Most of the owners here do nothing either. At our next meeting in September I hope some of the new owners will step up and replace the current board.
Jim

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