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LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
Posted:
Our HOA is a nightmare and I desperately need help. Some of the violations:
- Board voted to use HOA $ for exclusive area (violation of CC&Rs)
- After 1+ years, found out one of our Board members is not an owner (CC&Rs prohibits non-owners); he refuses to relinquish account credentials/banking access
- President wrote check on HOA account (violation of CC&Rs and Board vote)
- Owner landscaped common area (violation of CC&Rs)
- President knowingly and unilaterally hired uninsured vendor (violation of Duty of Care)
- President rewriting Minutes/changing meaning/deleting entire events (violation of CC&Rs)
- President gave confidential info (draft Minutes) and email to non-homeowner (violation of CC&Rs)
- Treasurer gave confidential info (budget and related) and correspondence to non-homeowner (violation of CC&Rs)
- No annual election since 2021 (violation of CC&Rs)
- No meeting since 2022 (violation of CC&Rs)
- President diverting HOA $ to pay for property and D&O insurance Board never approved or authorized (is this fraud?)
- Board member agreed to IDR, had a meeting, reached an agreement, then he refused to sign the agreement
- President refused request for arbitration (violation of CC&Rs)

Small building (4 units / 4-person Board). Obviously, can’t go to Board – they are the ones violating the CC&Rs. Can’t go to the homeowners, they are all on the Board! I don’t want to spend thousands on lawyers. Is there anything I can do?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Honestly, in my opinion, with that small of an Association you will likely have to go to court and request receivership along with an audit.

This will be expensive and will not place you in good relations with neighbors.

The other option is to sell and move.

The final option is to live with it.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By TimB4 on 05/16/2023 12:41 PM
Honestly, in my opinion, with that small of an Association you will likely have to go to court and request receivership along with an audit.

This will be expensive and will not place you in good relations with neighbors.

The other option is to sell and move.

The final option is to live with it.

Sound advice.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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This is why I've always thought that establishing HOAs with fewer than 15 units was a waste of time.

I know you don't want to do do a lot of money, but given your list, it appears nearly everyone has done something crazy. Especially the president - it would be nice 8f the rest could bsnc together and remove him from the position,, nuf sho would replace him if people ignore IDRs or serve on the board even though they aren't owners.

Hate to say it,, but I don't see any options except what Tim suggested- petition for receivership, learn to live with it (and develop ulcers or a drug habit to help you cope), sue everyone ir move. I think I'd opt for moving. You may .one money, but you'd have peace of mind.

You don't say what you have in the way of common area but if it isn't very much and your homes are detached, sybd you could look into dissolving the association. That's not as easy, or timely, or cheap as you may think and your neighbors would have to go along with it

California does have a HOA ombudsman, but I don't know what type of power they have ?Googleit fir details). You might also file a complaint with the state attorney general's office, but they don't represent individual homeowners in private disputes. So you're back to taking private legal action against everyone or moving. Those appears to be your only options at this point. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 12:14 PM
Our HOA is a nightmare and I desperately need help. Some of the violations:

- President diverting HOA $ to pay for property and D&O insurance Board never approved or authorized (is this fraud?)
- Board member agreed to IDR, had a meeting, reached an agreement, then he refused to sign the agreement


all hoas need Property and D&O insurance, therefore president wasn't "diverting" funds he was using them wisely

What is IDR???

vis ta vie
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
Posted:
How does receivership work, please?
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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There is no California HOA Ombudsman, alas.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Yes, funds were diverted - the insurance company, insurance amount, deductible, policy, etc. were never voted on by the Board. The President just picked whatever insurance he wanted and used HOA funds to purchase it without approval or authorization from the Board.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:00 PM
How does receivership work, please?

From https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/H/HOA-Without-Directors:

Receiver - Custodian. Another option is for one or more members of the association to petition the superior court to appoint a third party (a receiver or custodian) to manage the association as provided for in Code of Civil Procedure § 564(b)(9). The receiver would have the power to run the association, including the power to assess the membership for all costs needed to pay for operations. The downside is that there are no restrictions on the size or frequency of assessments imposed by the receiver. The membership would have no say in what services were provided, what was repaired or when, or how much is paid for operations and repairs. All of that would be in the hands of the receiver. Moreover, the receiver would likely special assess the membership to pay for his/her services.


LizD3 (California)
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Thanks. Does anyone know how, exactly, this petitioning is done?
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:14 PM
Thanks. Does anyone know how, exactly, this petitioning is done?
"Petition" here means file a lawsuit asking for receivership.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Thanks, Ellen. I assume this means get a lawyer - or is this something I can do, myself? As in, paperwork I can file, etc?
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:16 PM
Thanks, Ellen. I assume this means get a lawyer - or is this something I can do, myself? As in, paperwork I can file, etc?
My first step would be to ask for IDR. During the IDR, I would ask the board to comply with the covenants and state law.

If the board refuses to offer IDR (in violation of state law), then I would talk to an attorney and see what the attorney advises.

I advise against attempting to petition (file a lawsuit) pro se.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Thanks. I already did IDR. Had the meeting, reached an agreement, but the Board representative refused to sign it with no explanation. Thanks for your help.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:42 PM
Thanks. I already did IDR. Had the meeting, reached an agreement, but the Board representative refused to sign it with no explanation. Thanks for your help.
Send the board a polite letter saying that if it does not respect the terms of the agreement, you will have to consider seeking receivership pursuant to California Civil Code.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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It should be noted that if your HOA was to go into receivership it is the absolute worse thing it can do. The owners lose every voting ability. The receiver decides what has to be paid. Which includes their bill. It also destroys the HOA's credit. Meaning it may cost more to refinance. Worst yet it loses many loan/mortgage options. Meaning no more FHA loans or higher rates for new potential buyers.

So it should not be taken as a "solution" to not liking your HOA. It should be taken as your HOA needs to get it together before someone else does it for you all.

Former HOA President
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Oh, if only everyone was as reasonable as you! If a polite letter would do it, I would have done it. We are so far beyond a polite letter, it is horrifying. Still, I greatly appreciate your help.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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It is not that I don't like my HOA. It is that they violate the CC&Rs and statutes repeatedly. We are half a year overdue for elections and more than half a year overdue for a meeting. There is no transparency, no oversight, and no hope of fixing anything because I am working within the confines of our CC&Rs and they are ignoring them. I am loathe to do receivership for all the reasons you mentioned, but I have tried everything from polite emails to IDR and have run out of options.

So, thank you, for trying to help - it is appreciated.
LetA (Nevada)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:04 PM
Yes, funds were diverted - the insurance company, insurance amount, deductible, policy, etc. were never voted on by the Board. The President just picked whatever insurance he wanted and used HOA funds to purchase it without approval or authorization from the Board.

THAT'S NOT DIVERSION OF FUNDS. Diversion of funds is taking the money earmarked for D&O Insurance Premiums and using the money to buy a handbag at Louis Vuitton or something
else other than paying what the funds are intended for.
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Fair enough. To be clear, the Board President removed funds from the HOA account for an item the Board did not vote on and did not authorize.

Obviously the HOA needs insurance. But the Board must vote on what policy it wants – it is not up to one person to unilaterally decide how and where to spend HOA funds.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:00 PM
How does receivership work, please?

Receivership is not a good thing.

One goes to the court and asks that they appoint a receiver to oversee the Association and correct issues.

If the court agrees, the court appoints someone as receiver (a PM or MC usually).

The receiver answers to the court, not the owners.

One of the first things the receiver will ask the court for is an increase in assessments to pay their salary. The court will typically grant this request.

The receiver should correct issues but the membership has zero say in what the receiver wants to do (only the court does).

Receivership would continue until the receiver decides that the Association is back on track and then they will tell the court that their work is done.

See:

Receiverships in HOAs and Condos from a legal firm

Receivership: What Happens When an Association Fails? From ECHO

Receiverships & Conservatorships 101 from a NH organization

Receivership Options … Best Interest or Trouble for My Association? from an arbitration firm
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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There is one other option (and I misread the part about diverting funds, I thought the funds were diverted for something else instead of paying for liability and D&O insurance), is to sit down and work things out.

I expect that you were the party in the IDR. If this is correct, then your options at that point would be to bring legal action based on the unresolved IDR.

However, it sounds like the issue is more of a lack of communication and the President just doing things they think is right without prior approval.
If this is the case, suggest motioning removing the individual from the office of President and volunteer to perform those duties yourself. May or may not happen but at least you will know if you have support from the other owners.

If you do not have support, your only option may be legal action (which likely won't make you friends).
LizD3 (California)
Posts: 200
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Heaven knows, I tried to work things out. The issue is not lack of communication. The issue is they do not believe they are required to abide by the CC&Rs or CA Statues (Corp. Code, etc.) or even Robert’s Rules of Order. I’ve spent year+ trying to educate, explain, cajole. I’ve quoted CC&Rs and Davis-Sterling. I’ve tried to appeal to their integrity. They know they are violating the CC&Rs, etc. They don’t want to work things out. They don't care. I came here in a last ditch desperate attempt for help because I want to avoid lawyers and receivership, but that is all I am left with (although I do appreciate the advice I was given by all – thank you). I am disheartened.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By TimB4 on 05/17/2023 5:15 AM
Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 5:00 PM
How does receivership work, please?


Receivership is not a good thing.

One goes to the court and asks that they appoint a receiver to oversee the Association and correct issues.

If the court agrees, the court appoints someone as receiver (a PM or MC usually).

The receiver answers to the court, not the owners.

One of the first things the receiver will ask the court for is an increase in assessments to pay their salary. The court will typically grant this request.

The receiver should correct issues but the membership has zero say in what the receiver wants to do (only the court does).

Receivership would continue until the receiver decides that the Association is back on track and then they will tell the court that their work is done.
See:

Receiverships in HOAs and Condos from a legal firm

Receivership: What Happens When an Association Fails? From ECHO

Receiverships & Conservatorships 101 from a NH organization

Receivership Options … Best Interest or Trouble for My Association? from an arbitration firm


A couple quibbles:

Courts often appoint an attorney as the receiver, or at least someone who is knowledgeable about the law.

Also. depending on what state you're in, receivership may be open-ended. That is, a member must file a second lawsuit to petition the court for termination.

I totally agree that receivership is bad news, and homeowners should not treat it lightly or play chicken when it comes to electing a functional board.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 05/16/2023 7:34 PM
It should be noted that if your HOA was to go into receivership it is the absolute worse thing it can do. The owners lose every voting ability. The receiver decides what has to be paid. Which includes their bill. It also destroys the HOA's credit. Meaning it may cost more to refinance. Worst yet it loses many loan/mortgage options. Meaning no more FHA loans or higher rates for new potential buyers.

So it should not be taken as a "solution" to not liking your HOA. It should be taken as your HOA needs to get it together before someone else does it for you all.

I agree. Receivership can easily cause an association to go broke and each owner subject to a Special Assessment over and over.
LetA (Nevada)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 9:49 PM
Fair enough. To be clear, the Board President removed funds from the HOA account for an item the Board did not vote on and did not authorize.

Obviously the HOA needs insurance. But the Board must vote on what policy it wants – it is not up to one person to unilaterally decide how and where to spend HOA funds.

Believe what you want to believe. Making statements that are untrue and or libelous or slanderous is not right. Your board has a fiduciary duty to pay the D&O insurance premiums.
These items are not voted on, they are reoccurring expenses. The only time something like this comes up for a vote is when the board votes to change carriers or policy terms.
Your false statements can get you in a lot of hot water and even sued.
LizD3 (California)
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Thanks for your input. I do know the board has a fiduciary duty to pay insurance premiums. Multiple policies were presented to Board members as a precursor to a vote, but no vote happened. Instead, the president picked the policy he wanted and paid for it with HOA funds with no Board oversight, no transparency, no elections, no meetings for more than half a year.

I’m looking into receivership. What else can I do?
SheliaH (Indiana)
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If you don't want to go the receivership route, you could sue them yourself, but there's no guarantees, you'd have to prove all of the allegations you listed did occur - and then who's going to run the association if everyone else is booted off by the judge? That would force the receivership issue, and as you've seen it's not a road you want to travel.

You'll have to think long and hard about your options and how far you're willing to go. Some people may fold as soon as they get a nastygram by an attorney - and others may react in kind, and it won't be pretty. I'm not saying you shouldn't take action (this is your home after all), but you may also be running into a situation where the best solution may be to cut your losses and move. It's a shame because you wouldn't have posted if you didn't care about the community and love your home - too bad it seems the others are looking at the collective pot of association resources as their personal piggy bank and/or do whatever they want because they are.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
LizD3 (California)
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Thanks. I have tons of proof (hello email!). But will have to think on your very good advice. Much thanks.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Since my community is now flirting with receivership, I've been looking into it more closely, and I've come to one conclusion:

You do NOT want to go into receivership if you can avoid it. A small HOA will have all of the same types of expenses and many of the same requirements as a larger one - thus the receiver will have to do much of the same kinds of things he'd do for a larger community. The difference is that his salary will only be spread out among 4 homeowners, not among 50 or 100 or more. You literally can't afford it.

* Receivers are paid, and can make more per hour than an attorney.

* Receivers answer to the court, not the homeowners. You will have no say in how the receiver runs your community.

* Depending on your state's laws, a homeowner may have to file a second lawsuit at their own expense to terminate the receivership.

You really really really want to think twice about this. You can always make this situation worse for yourselves.

In addition, the court will decide if your community is even suitable for receivership. It's usually a solution for a community that can't elect a board at all. There are different solutions for board members who aren't doing their jobs properly. That said, a 4-unit HOA will have some issues implementing some of those because of its small size - you don't have a luxury of choice that a larger community would.

In your place, if the board's shenanigans were getting on my last nerve, I'd be thinking seriously about moving before the situation blows up since it sounds like the property is at least being maintained pretty well. If I loved my home for some reason and didn't want to sell, I'd buy some time with a knowledgeable attorney so that we could discuss other options. I'd say you should probably forget about receivership - the economics work against you, and you can assume that you will permanently damage your relations with your neighbors and will probably end up selling anyway as a result. Don't underestimate the unpleasantness of living in a building where everyone hates your guts.

I'll repeat: you can always make this situation worse for yourself, so play the long game. Get a reality check and don't set anything in motion that you can't easily reverse course on.
LizD3 (California)
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Thanks, Cathy, that was a well-considered response.
TerriS6 (California)
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I have read all the responses. Most of these issues can be resolved in small claims court with little expense to you. The court can order board to comply with CC&Rs or fine them. I've had to take this route because it's the only thing our board will listen to.
TerriS6 (California)
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The CC&Rs are equitable servitudes enforceable by a member or by the board. A member has the right to enforce CC&Rs and the Davis-Stirling Act by virtue of being an owner.
LizD3 (California)
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Thanks, Terri.

1. Can you clarify about taking them to small claims. Most of the issues are not $-based (like refusing to hold required meetings), so what would I ask small claims for – I thought small claims had to be $?

2. I know the CC&Rs are enforceable by a member or the board, but if I point out that our CC&Rs says we are half a year overdue for elections and the Board still refuses to hold them, what can I do?

Thanks.
TerriS6 (California)
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1. Read Article 4 starting with civil code section 5100. Anything those laws require can be enforced in small claims court. You can either count the violations and ask for any amount between $1 and $500 or under the amount demanded, you can put "subject to the court's discretion." Whatever the law says about how often there must be elections, the judge can order them to have an election. Could be 3 years if acclamation, or 4 years. Check corporations code too. Many of these HOA laws are black and white - easy for the judge to decide. For example, election proxies can't be used as a substitute for a secret ballot.

2. You could use enforcement of the CC&Rs but claiming violations of the law, the Davis-Stirling Act, are simpler.
MaxB4
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Posted By TerriS6 on 05/18/2023 4:34 PM
1. Read Article 4 starting with civil code section 5100. Anything those laws require can be enforced in small claims court. You can either count the violations and ask for any amount between $1 and $500 or under the amount demanded, you can put "subject to the court's discretion." Whatever the law says about how often there must be elections, the judge can order them to have an election. Could be 3 years if acclamation, or 4 years. Check corporations code too. Many of these HOA laws are black and white - easy for the judge to decide. For example, election proxies can't be used as a substitute for a secret ballot.

2. You could use enforcement of the CC&Rs but claiming violations of the law, the Davis-Stirling Act, are simpler.

This is a 4 unit complex with all units on the Board. Exactly what do you think is going to happen? One against three ain't real good odds. Just my opinion mind you.
TerriS6 (California)
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The one judge is all that matters.
LizD3 (California)
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Terri - once again, you are brilliant. I am very grateful.

(Max - I have one heck of a paper trail! That should even up the odds a bit.)
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Brilliance will lead you into the brightlight of your demise they say. Be careful of the light... a train runs in the tunnel if you get on one track...

Former HOA President
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Keep in mind that Liz will have to live with the results of whatever happens. It's one thing to antagonize folks who live a few blocks over and whom you seldom see. It's a whole 'nother issue to live in the same small building with angry neighbors whom you see every day.

A friend of mine had a name for situations like this. She called it "dying in full possession of the right of way."

I remember reading up on some well-publicized HOA cases where the plaintiffs were clearly in the right and the boards were clearly in the wrong. They won their cases, but all of them sold their homes afterwards, in part because the neighbors were so unpleasant.

The trouble with these tiny condo communities is that actions can have oversized consequences. Stuff that works just fine in a large community won't necessarily work in a small one - or it will work but the negative consequences will outweigh the positive ones. People tend to focus entirely on what success will look like without considering all the ways in which things can go wrong. Rosy scenarios without a good dose of reality can lead to unpleasant experiences, and not just for the person who initiates the action.

(Disclosure: I've lived in a 6-unit condo community, although these were townhouse style homes that offered more privacy than a multi-unit building with a single front entrance that everyone had to go through.)
TerriS6 (California)
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It's true some people might get mad - no reason to sell your home - there are good and bad neighbors everywhere. Remember the Davis-Stirling Act was written to protect homeowners. It is consumer protection law.

Some people on this forum suggest getting on the board to solve problems. What if your board has no election rules? What if your board uses proxies instead of ballots and members instruct board directors, who are old friends, to vote on their behalf? What if member meetings don't have a member quorum on election day but an "election" is held anyway? What if members are elected by acclamation when no legal notice has been given?

And what if you want to refinance your property but the board has recorded an invalid lien on your property and your credit is ruined? What to do if the board is charging twice the interest rate allowed on past due assessments? What to do when the board forces payment in escrow of invalid liens on an elderly widow's home?

And what about violations of the Open Meeting Act? Actions are taken but there was no meeting, notice, or agenda - no chance for members to attend or speak before a discussion or decision was made.

And what about illegal assessment increases? Should homeowners just succumb to higher assessments every year when the board has provided no budget or notice or any of the several things they must do by law to get taxing power?

Nobody likes to sue but sometimes that's the only thing left to do.

WendyM5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By LizD3 on 05/16/2023 9:49 PM
Fair enough. To be clear, the Board President removed funds from the HOA account for an item the Board did not vote on and did not authorize.

Obviously the HOA needs insurance. But the Board must vote on what policy it wants – it is not up to one person to unilaterally decide how and where to spend HOA funds.

how do you know the board didn't vote on it?
What makes you think the board wouldn't have gone with this company anyways?
When we got insurance I told the other board members this is what we should get and they said ok?
You really think other board members are going to read insurance documents?

you are complaining about getting insurance? Maybe you need to calm down.

vis ta vie
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By WendyM5 on 05/19/2023 6:44 AM

you are complaining about getting insurance? Maybe you need to calm down.

In reading the posts, Liz is upset that the individual serving as President is making decisions and spending money without board approval.

She stated that the board was considering insurance options when the President, on their own, chose a company and wrote a check prior to the board making a decision.

Additionally, there are some more procedural issues that she (who I expect is a member of the board) is being left out of.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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I agree that sometimes a lawsuit is the only thing that works.

In this case, the would-be plaintiff needs to take a hard look at how that's likely to play out - including the time, money and effort needed to pursue the lawsuit, the likelihood of success, and the end result even if the plaintiff wins (damaged personal relationships, people refusing to serve on the board, and the effect on future assessments, including and especially as regards to obtaining insurance).

I was thinking last night about tiny condo communities in general and the challenges they face. As I'd mentioned upthread, things like economies of scale that benefit large communities actually work against the tiny ones. This means that the risk-benefit calculation will change depending on community size. I finally concluded that issues I'd call out in a larger community I would let slide in a tiny one, because I believe that the negative consequences of trying to correct the issue could result in greater harm. Obviously this will depend on the issue and the players involved, but lawsuits will almost certainly cause economic harm that a tiny association (and one or more neighbors!) may not recover from. (*)

I vaguely remember one of our regular posters once commenting that he would never live in a tiny community. And after 14+ years serving on condo boards and 17 years working for a new home builder (I hear scuttlebutt), I firmly agree with that poster's comment.

(* In many states, community association laws exempt tiny communities from some of the provisions because of this reality. Anyone in a very small community who is contemplating the lawsuit should be very certain before proceeding. A talk with a knowledgeable attorney is a must.)
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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There are two different posts by the OP. It adds to the confusion is that they are quick to jump into receivership and or legal action. When try to pin down the actual problem it is more general not following the rules thing. That is not quite enough to decide to do receivership or legal action. Just general do not like the situation YOU are in is not a reason to effect everyone else.

Having been a President before it can be quite overwhelming to have to make decisionss based on ALL members opinions. It is good to have them. It also can be a hinderence. What if all 3 of the other board members agreed to let the President make decisions? Majority rules. You can remove them from office and elect someone else.

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 05/19/2023 7:11 AM
You can remove them from office and elect someone else.

Perhaps. In a small development (the OPs is only 4 units), it's harder as the entire development can make up the board.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By CathyA3 on 05/19/2023 7:07 AM
As I'd mentioned upthread, things like economies of scale that benefit large communities actually work against the tiny ones.
From experience, for large HOAs I believe the costs of professional management, and the unseen costs of volunteers overseeing this management, result in the benefit of economy of scale being wiped out.

As is said here from time to time: The safest HOA is one with minimal amenities and minimal common area, and so minimal board oversight and professional management needs.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Going to court as suggested think going to make things better? What if the court rules to remove the President? Who then steps up? Or does it go into receivership as the OP wants that option as well? Just because they do not like how the President does the job. If can do better then do the job. If not, let the person who wants to do it.

Former HOA President
TerriS6 (California)
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Good to remember that 95% of HOA attorneys work for the association/the board since it holds the purse strings. Many law firms are openly hostile toward the member class.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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It is noted that the lawyer is the HOA lawyer and NOT the individual member lawyer. The lawyer represents the HOA in whole. So they are not going to be "nice" to those whom are suing them. They are not their clients.

Suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors. The HOA lawyer is the lawyer you will go against if you sue.

Former HOA President

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