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MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
WA, single-family

A homeowner moved in a few months ago and immediately started converting the garage to living space. This was evidenced by a door (visible above the fence line) and window (street-facing) being added.

Our CC&Rs say that (almost) all improvements require approval before work begins and specifically mentions that "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." Our rules (put in place by the developer 10 years ago) specifically say converting garages to living space is prohibited.

The board asked the homeowner to stop work on the project and submit the proper forms for consideration. The homeowner insisted she was just redoing the floor of the living room and, when challenged, grudgingly admitted that she had also added a window and door. She submitted an alteration request that just said, "add door and window and redo floor." It was denied, needing more information.

Since then, the homeowner has been coming to my door, calling, and texting--pleading her case. I tell her I can't speak for the board and have invited her to our next meeting. I have learned that the homeowner wanted to expand her day care into the garage and state regulations required the door and window. She said she had no idea she needed HOA permission. I have also learned that permits for garage conversion were granted, the project passed final inspection, and cost about $40,000. The garage door is still intact, so it still looks like a garage.

Our CC&Rs say a variance can be granted only in accordance with the local jurisdiction but cannot be contrary to the CC&Rs. The way I read the situation, we should be able to grant the variance if we want. I lean toward granting it. Another board member wants to ignore the whole situation. The third wants to require all blueprints, etc. from the permitting process, consult an attorney, and maybe consider granting a variance that includes reverting back to a garage when sold.

We have at least 4 other day cares in the neighborhood and none have converted the garage. A few families use their garage as quasi-living spaces, but no modifications that are visible from outside (also no requests for approval).

I have tried to guess why conversions were prohibited in the rules and I can only think of uniformity and parking considerations. Uniformity has slowly been chipped away, such that this change doesn't seem offensive to me (other than a few cosmetic considerations that I would like to require--such as window trim matching existing). Our streets are public. The driveway has space for three cars (she currently has 4). Some streets in the community have a parking problem, but the street this house is on does not (except that she sometimes parks too close to the cluster mailbox).

We have never granted a variance before. What more should we consider, and how should we proceed? Thank you.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
In my opinion, the rules are more restrictive then the covenants, as the covenants do not prohibit garage conversions.

Are your streets public or private, as this could have bearing on parking in the street?

The main thing you should consider is that if you grant a variance for one, you will need to grant a variance for all (or most all).

If the garage door is there, then there is no reverting back as, it is a garage.
As the door can be opened and, unless there is a wall in front of the door, a vehicle could be pulled into the garage.

In addition to the flooring, door and window what else was done (walls, heating/Air Conditioning, etc.)?

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Your CCRs look pretty clear to me, so why on earth would anyone allow a variance when the homeowner just up and did what she wanted to do? I say get the attorney involved to compel the homeowner to stop the work – she must file a formal request and then you can decide what to do. In the meantime, tell this woman to quit with the calling and texting – block her number to let her know that you mean business. And tell her you will consider her trespassing if she comes to your hour again to discuss this issue (please don’t pull out a gun like so many people seem to be doing these days – and I’m not kidding.)

I don’t care how much money this will cost her – if the association has to end up duking it out in court, you can ask that the legal fees be reimbursed if you win. And while you’re at it, read your CCRs to see what they say about at home businesses. This lady isn’t selling Mary Kay or Avon – day care has a whole ‘nother set of requirements (maybe the agency regulating them should be contacted to see if this conversion would even meet city or county requirements – if not, she’ll definitely have to stop it.

This may sound harsh but as Tim noted, if you grant a variance for one, you have to do it for another. When people start converting their garages into living rooms or man caves, that can leave less space for cars. We are not a one or two car society anymore – people can have as many as four if mom, dad (or significant other) and each teenager/college student also has a hooptie or whatever. The rules are there for a reason – if you don’t have the stomach to enforce them fairly and consistently, get off the board now before something major really happens to rile up the community.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/24/2023 11:41 AM
She said she had no idea she needed HOA permission.
Why do you mention this? Do understand that this is not a lawful defense to her situation and has no bearing on the situation? The courts say that the covenants were in fact noticed to the owner by virtue of state disclosure requirements and the covenants being recorded at the county clerk. The courts say that the covenants are "contractual terms" to which all agree when they buy into the HOA.

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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/24/2023 11:41 AM
Our rules (put in place by the developer 10 years ago) specifically say converting garages to living space is prohibited.
Please quote verbatim exactly what your covenants say about modifications in general and modification of garages in particular.

For now, be aware that board-created rules cannot conflict with covenants.
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Tim,

Our streets are public.

Our CC&Rs say that granting a variance "does not estop the Reviewer from denying a variance in other circumstances".

The project was permitted with the city as a "garage conversion to residential use".

I have not been in the space myself, and no details have been submitted to me yet. City inspections included underfloor insulation, framing, wall insulation, plumbing, and interior wall board (so it is possible that the garage door has been walled off inside). A mini-split was also added.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
City permit doesn’t matter if your documents require other procedures.
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Shelia,

Not following procedure is not a valid reason to deny the variance if the homeowner is now willing to follow procedure. It definitely got the process off to a rocky start, I agree. I wasn't very clear before--I wouldn't want to grant a variance until the formal request is properly filed and considered.

Our CC&Rs do allow home businesses as long as (short version) they don't cause any problems. And state regulations severely limit HOAs' ability to prohibit home day cares. Her day care itself hasn't caused any problems, but the expansion into the garage is in question.

Our CC&Rs were, according to an attorney, poorly written in many ways--including the fact that the association is not necessarily entitled to be reimbursed for legal fees even if we win in court. I tried getting the community to approve a CC&R update several years ago, but there was no appetite for it.

I do have a tendency to personalize this role perhaps more than I should--but if I leave the board the other two board members will resign as well and years of begging for more volunteers have turned up no one.
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Ellen,

Our CC&Rs go on for over three pages regarding modifications in general. Here are the first two paragraphs:

"General. No structure or thing shall be placed, erected, or installed upon any Unit within
the Properties and no improvements or other work (including staking, clearing, excavation, grading and
other site work, exterior alterations of existing improvements, or planting or removal of landscaping) shall
take place within the Properties, except in compliance with this Article, the Residential Design Guidelines
adopted pursuant to this Declaration.

"Approval of the PIC shall not be required to repaint the exterior of a structure, if in accordance
with the originally approved color scheme, or to rebuild in accordance with originally approved plans and
specifications. Any Owner may remodel, paint, or redecorate the interior of his or her Unit without
approval, provided that the work performed complies with all laws applicable to the Local Jurisdiction.
However, modifications to the interior of screened porches, patios, and similar portions of a Unit visible
from outside the structure and modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to
approval."

Now, our governing documents were written in a very unusual way (per our attorney). As an exhibit to the CC&Rs, and thus recorded with the CC&Rs, but not exactly part of the CC&Rs, we have a document called "Initial Use Restrictions" which are kind of like what many HOAs might call rules and regulations. This document includes:

"Conversion of Carports or Garages. Conversion of any carport, garage, attic, or
other unfinished space, other than a basement, to finished space for use as an apartment or other
integral part of the living area on any Unit is prohibited."

And finally, the CC&Rs on variances:

"Variances. The Reviewer may authorize variances from compliance with any of its
guidelines and procedures when circumstances such as topography, natural obstructions, hardship, or
aesthetic or environmental considerations require, but only in accordance with the laws of the Local
Jurisdiction. Such variances may only be granted, however, when unique circumstances dictate and no
variance shall (a) be effective unless in writing; (b) be contrary to this Declaration; or (c) estop the
Reviewer from denying a variance in other circumstances. For purposes of this Section, the inability to
obtain approval of any governmental agency, the issuance of any permit, or the terms of any financing
shall not be considered a hardship warranting a variance."

Thus, if "Initial Use Restrictions" are "guidelines and procedures" we can grant a variance. If "Initial Use Restrictions" are part of the Declaration, then garage conversions are prohibited and a variance can't be granted.

If a variance can be granted, should it be, and what terms should be considered? If it can't, is it really worth taking the owner to court over this or is it more reasonable to ignore until there is an actual problem, as the board has authority to do if they feel it's in the best interests of the association.

Thanks.

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Margaret, thank you for quoting your CC&Rs verbatim. This helps a lot.

Short answer:
IMO the Board should approve the conversion of the garage as living space. Issuing a variance is not necessary to do so. Also the board should develop guidelines for conversion of garages in the future. These guidelines will not apply to the present case.

Long answer:
I have read a lot of case law on the subject of interpreting covenants, especially when the covenants might be contradicting each other or when they are ambiguous. My response below is how I think an appeals court would rule:

One of the HOA's covenants states, "... modifications to the interior of screened porches, patios, and similar portions of a Unit visible from outside the structure and modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." The HOA also has "Initial Use Restrictions" that are recorded as an exhibit to the CC&Rs. The word "initial" is not to be taken lightly. When taken with the body of the CC&Rs, and in particular the section that says converting garages to living space is subject to approval, clearly the Declarant was saying that future boards might permit the conversion of garages to living spaces. Else why would the exhibit use the word "Initial"? Why would these "initial use restrictions" appear as an exhibit to the CC&Rs and not appear in the main body of the CC&Rs?

The HOA has no guidelines on when a garage may be converted to a living space. Other case law says that, absent guidelines, a court must err on the side of free enjoyment of property. Hence the court orders that this HOA approve the conversion of the garage to living space.


Please be open to learning this factoid: This is not a variance situation. "Variance" is a city and county land use 'term of art' referring to actual violations of plats and municipal code or county code that simply cannot be avoided due to topography and the like. No such situation exists here.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Since the conversion has already taken place, if a variance isn't granted, you will likely need to enforce via legal ways. At the least, attorney expenses. At the most a full court battle.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ElleN on 04/24/2023 3:35 PM
Margaret, thank you for quoting your CC&Rs verbatim. This helps a lot.

Short answer:
IMO the Board should approve the conversion of the garage as living space. Issuing a variance is not necessary to do so. Also the board should develop guidelines for conversion of garages in the future. These guidelines will not apply to the present case.

Long answer:
I have read a lot of case law on the subject of interpreting covenants, especially when the covenants might be contradicting each other or when they are ambiguous. My response below is how I think an appeals court would rule:

One of the HOA's covenants states, "... modifications to the interior of screened porches, patios, and similar portions of a Unit visible from outside the structure and modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." The HOA also has "Initial Use Restrictions" that are recorded as an exhibit to the CC&Rs. The word "initial" is not to be taken lightly. When taken with the body of the CC&Rs, and in particular the section that says converting garages to living space is subject to approval, clearly the Declarant was saying that future boards might permit the conversion of garages to living spaces. Else why would the exhibit use the word "Initial"? Why would these "initial use restrictions" appear as an exhibit to the CC&Rs and not appear in the main body of the CC&Rs?

The HOA has no guidelines on when a garage may be converted to a living space. Other case law says that, absent guidelines, a court must err on the side of free enjoyment of property. Hence the court orders that this HOA approve the conversion of the garage to living space.


Please be open to learning this factoid: This is not a variance situation. "Variance" is a city and county land use 'term of art' referring to actual violations of plats and municipal code or county code that simply cannot be avoided due to topography and the like. No such situation exists here.

I agree 100%. HOA's can be funny about garage conversions. my house was a "model" home and came with a converted garage. Same thing 2 houses down, but when the home inbetween us wanted to convert their garage the old board said no. they converted it anyways and left the garage door there. which surely can't help thier home value.

vis ta vie
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 973
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/24/2023 11:41 AM
WA, single-family

A homeowner moved in a few months ago and immediately started converting the garage to living space. This was evidenced by a door (visible above the fence line) and window (street-facing) being added.

Our CC&Rs say that (almost) all improvements require approval before work begins and specifically mentions that "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." Our rules (put in place by the developer 10 years ago) specifically say converting garages to living space is prohibited.

The board asked the homeowner to stop work on the project and submit the proper forms for consideration. The homeowner insisted she was just redoing the floor of the living room and, when challenged, grudgingly admitted that she had also added a window and door. She submitted an alteration request that just said, "add door and window and redo floor." It was denied, needing more information.

Since then, the homeowner has been coming to my door, calling, and texting--pleading her case. I tell her I can't speak for the board and have invited her to our next meeting. I have learned that the homeowner wanted to expand her day care into the garage and state regulations required the door and window. She said she had no idea she needed HOA permission. I have also learned that permits for garage conversion were granted, the project passed final inspection, and cost about $40,000. The garage door is still intact, so it still looks like a garage.

Our CC&Rs say a variance can be granted only in accordance with the local jurisdiction but cannot be contrary to the CC&Rs. The way I read the situation, we should be able to grant the variance if we want. I lean toward granting it. Another board member wants to ignore the whole situation. The third wants to require all blueprints, etc. from the permitting process, consult an attorney, and maybe consider granting a variance that includes reverting back to a garage when sold.

We have at least 4 other day cares in the neighborhood and none have converted the garage. A few families use their garage as quasi-living spaces, but no modifications that are visible from outside (also no requests for approval).

I have tried to guess why conversions were prohibited in the rules and I can only think of uniformity and parking considerations. Uniformity has slowly been chipped away, such that this change doesn't seem offensive to me (other than a few cosmetic considerations that I would like to require--such as window trim matching existing). Our streets are public. The driveway has space for three cars (she currently has 4). Some streets in the community have a parking problem, but the street this house is on does not (except that she sometimes parks too close to the cluster mailbox).

We have never granted a variance before. What more should we consider, and how should we proceed? Thank you.

I’m not sure I understand the difference between the “developer rules” and the CC&Rs.

Is your neighborhood still under “declarant control”? I lack the experience of others here, but I thought that when the developer moved on, the “developer rules” expired? (You should definitely not just accept my words as truth).

Also speaking only for myself: it seems like there is minimal change to the exterior, she actually got all of the required permits & etc. Perhaps in allowing this to go through, y’all could lay down some strict rules - this seems like an ACC thing - on the requirements for this if other people come along wanting to do a garage conversion later? Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with someone doing this.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Bill,

Yes, our governing documents are unusual and confusing. I wish the community would agree to an update, but no one wants the expense or headache.

Our "Initial Use Restrictions" say: "The following Use Restrictions shall apply to all of the Properties until such time as they are amended, modified, repealed, or limited by the Association pursuant to Article III of the Declaration." Article III of the Declaration lays out the procedure for amendment, which requires notice to the community, open discussion at a board meeting, notice of adoption, etc.

Therefore, the "Initial Use Restrictions"--which are established to "Govern use of property, activities, and conduct within the Properties"--are still in effect despite the fact that the developer is gone.

Personally, I agree with your suggested solutions. But I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing according to the rules--and I have to be able to convince my fellow board members what the right thing is.
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Wendy,

Did the board know that the neighbor converted the garage despite the denial? How did they respond?
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Ellen,

Thank you for giving my question so much thought. I've looked back through the archives here, and I understand that "variance" is a controversial word. You've given me yet another topic to research.

In our governing documents, "Use Restrictions" are separate from the CC&Rs on purpose. Their authority is listed as on par with "Residential Design Guidelines" and "Rules and Regulations", but below CC&Rs. The "Initial Use Restrictions" say: "The following Use Restrictions shall apply to all of the Properties until such time as they are amended, modified, repealed, or limited by the Association pursuant to Article III of the Declaration." Article III describes the method of amending the Use Restrictions, such as notice, discussion at an open board meeting, etc.

I wonder if that information would change your analysis.

In my understanding, the CC&Rs say garage conversion requires approval. Approval has to be consistent with the governing documents. The Use Restrictions, part of the governing documents, say approval will not be granted because the action is prohibited. The Use Restrictions can be amended to allow garage conversion, and if that happens at some point in the future, approval is still necessary, per the CC&Rs. In extreme circumstances, the "Reviewer" of the application can grant an exception to any of the normal "guidelines and procedures". It is unclear whether "Use Restrictions" qualify for such an exception.

So I see a few possible paths forward:

(1) ignore the whole thing because enforcing the rules would be too expensive. Not ideal, in my mind, but our CC&Rs say: "The Association shall not be obligated to take any action if the Board reasonably determines that the Association's position is not strong enough to justify taking such action that the covenant, Use Restriction, or Rule and Regulation being enforced is, or is likely to be construed as, inconsistent with applicable law; or that it is not in the Association's interest, based upon hardship, expenses, or other reasonable criteria to pursue enforcement action. Such a decision shall not be construed a waiver of the right of the Association to enforce such provision at a later time under other circumstances or estop the Association from enforcing any other covenant, Use Restriction, or Rule and Regulation. The Association, by contract or other agreement, may enforce applicable Local Jurisdiction ordinances, if applicable, and permit the Local Jurisdiction to enforce ordinances within the Properties for the benefit of the Association and its Members."

(2) attempt to update the Use Restrictions to allow garage conversions, within certain "Residential Design Guidelines", and still subject to approval. I'm not crazy about this idea. Most of the streets in our neighborhood already have a parking problem.

(3) grant a variance to allow this particular lot to convert the garage because of the exceptional circumstance that parking is not a problem on their street. Although, with the amount of governing-document-quoting I've had to do in this thread, it's becoming clear that consulting with our attorney is probably a good idea. And it appears that variances should usually be run by an attorney anyway.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Margaret

You say:

Our CC&Rs say that (almost) all improvements require approval before work begins and specifically mentions that "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." Our rules (put in place by the developer 10 years ago) specifically say converting garages to living space is prohibited.

CC&R's outweigh rules so garage conversion are not prohibited but they are subject to approval. We allow garage conversions as long as the exterior garage door remains in place meaning it looks like a garage from the outside.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 8:09 AM
In our governing documents, "Use Restrictions" are separate from the CC&Rs on purpose. Their authority is listed as on par with "Residential Design Guidelines" and "Rules and Regulations", but below CC&Rs. The "Initial Use Restrictions" say: "The following Use Restrictions shall apply to all of the Properties until such time as they are amended, modified, repealed, or limited by the Association pursuant to Article III of the Declaration." Article III describes the method of amending the Use Restrictions, such as notice, discussion at an open board meeting, etc.

I wonder if that information would change your analysis.
It does change my analysis, but I still arrive at the same conclusion.

Your paragraph right above says these Use Restrictions both rank below the CC&Rs and yet apply until amendment via a vote of the owners occurs. Arguendo, let's assume the worst and that the Use Restrictions are equal in authority to the CC&Rs. But they conflict. When there is a conflict and a full reading of the governing document does not resolve it, then the courts rule against the HOA and in favor of the owner (erring on the side of free enjoyment of property).

Also I believe California has case law saying that, where a covenant requires approval to do xyz, this does not mean the HOA can create a rule flat-out prohibiting xyz. The HOA has to allow xyz but may create "reasonable rules" for doing xyz. Washington is not California of course, but I can see the same reasoning being used everywhere (if a dispute reached an appeals court).
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 8:09 AM

(1) [snip] our CC&Rs say: "The Association shall not be obligated to take any action if the Board reasonably determines that the Association's position is not strong enough to justify taking such action that the covenant, Use Restriction, or Rule and Regulation being enforced is, or is likely to be construed as, inconsistent with applicable law; or that it is not in the Association's interest, based upon hardship, expenses, or other reasonable criteria to pursue enforcement action."
In a meeting with the board, the above, along with a "lite" version of my other commentary, is what I would employ to approve the conversion of the garage to a living space.

I do not think your governing documents are any worse than any other HOA's governing documents.

Situations like this arise often.

Several years ago my then-HOA was interviewing HOA attorneys for possible retainment. The best attorney the board interviewed had co-authored the state's Condo Act some decades before. During questioning, this attorney remarked that what she hoped she saw with the board was its effort to be "reasonable and fair." Of course she wanted the condo following the law (covenants, statutes and case law) as well. But she was clever enough to distill how the board (all laypeople of course) should operate in this simple and highly important phrase. In my opinion, "reasonable and fair" here means allowing the conversion.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
You said:

"the board asked the homeowner to stop work on the project and submit the proper forms for consideration. The homeowner insisted she was just redoing the floor of the living room and, when challenged, grudgingly admitted that she had also added a window and door. She submitted an alteration request that just said, "add door and window and redo floor." It was denied, needing more information.

Since then, the homeowner has been coming to my door, calling, and texting--pleading her case. I tell her I can't speak for the board and have invited her to our next meeting. I have learned that the homeowner wanted to expand her day care into the garage and state regulations required the door and window. She said she had no idea she needed HOA permission. I have also learned that permits for garage conversion were granted, the project passed final inspection, and cost about $40,000. The garage door is still intact, so it still looks like a garage."

And you want to give this person a variance because "she's now willing to cooperate?" Well, if I had 40 stacks already invested in this project. I might say the same thing, but I still don't feel sorry for her. Most of us know you can't assume anything when it comes to HOAs - I don't know how this lady has been living in this community, but you'd think she would have asked someone before going headfirst.

But hey, if you want to grant her the variance anyway, have at it.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Ellen,

Thanks again for taking so much time with my question. I really appreciate it.

I think I have a different understanding of my CC&Rs than many who have posted here. I don't see a conflict between our CC&Rs and our Use Restrictions on this topic.

Our generic, boiler-plate CC&Rs used for dozens, if not hundreds, of developments (confirmed by the attorney who created our CC&Rs) says (I'm paraphrasing, but it's quoted above): Approval is needed for exterior projects. Unless you're re-painting the house the same color it already is--you don't need approval for that. You also don't need approval for interior projects, like remodeling your kitchen. However, you do need approval for quasi-interior projects, such as changes to screened porches and garages. But you don't need approval for most garage projects (like painting the inside, or putting in storage), you only need approval if you want to convert it into living space.

Then the developer for our particular neighborhood created Use Restrictions that apply specifically to our neighborhood. "What should the rules be for converting garages?" "There isn't enough street parking, and most of the driveways are small. People need to park in the garages or there will be major problems. Just say it's prohibited."

So to my mind, the CC&Rs grant the association authority to create rules regarding garage conversions and the Use Restrictions dictate the rules. And the current rule is no approvals will be given. However, the association has the authority to change that rule any time, as long as the proper procedure is followed.

I agree with you--I want to be fair and reasonable. I want to allow the conversion if our documents allow it. But I also want to make absolutely sure we're doing it right. At this point, I'm pretty sure running this by our attorney is the right thing to do.

As an aside, a previous poster mentioned that a couple of model homes in her neighborhood had converted garages while they were models. It made me curious, so I did some investigating. The garage in our model home was converted into a sales office while it was a model--and it was reverted to a garage by the developer once the last house was sold. The owner she said she would have liked it to stay as an office, but that wasn't an option.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 11:56 AM
So to my mind, the CC&Rs grant the association authority to create rules regarding garage conversions and the Use Restrictions dictate the rules. And the current rule is no approvals will be given. However, the association has the authority to change that rule any time, as long as the proper procedure is followed.
"Rules" are normally created by a HOA board, and may be amended by a board after meeting notice requirements. In some states, owners can vote to throw out a board-created rule.

Covenants may only be amended by a vote of a specified super-majority of owners.

You reported that the "Initial Use Restrictions" may only be changed by a vote of the owners. This suggests the Initial Use Restrictions are in fact not mere rules.

Nationwide the CC&RS give the Board the authority to create reasonable rules, for certain issues, that do not exceed what is already in the covenants.

All who are responding here know this distinction well. This is complicated by the wording of the "Initial Use Restrictions."

Legally:
"The Association" refers to the corporation. Some of the powers of "the association" belong strictly to owners. Like amending the CC&Rs. Amending the CC&Rs is a power reserved exclusively to the owners. Other powers belong strictly to the board. Like setting the budget; creating rules for the pool or clubhouse; hiring a manager; making sure the landscaping of common areas is maintained.

Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 11:56 AM
I agree with you--I want to be fair and reasonable. I want to allow the conversion if our documents allow it. But I also want to make absolutely sure we're doing it right. At this point, I'm pretty sure running this by our attorney is the right thing to do. What if there's no absolutely 100% clear answer as to what the right choice is?

It happens.

The "Fair and reasonable" standard, so to speak, arises only when the CC&Rs either (1) give the board the discretion to decide xyz; or (2) clearly contain an ambiguity or conflict. To me, the latter is the main question for the attorney: Does the attorney agree there is a conflict within the CC&Rs?

One could argue both for and against approving the conversion. Ultimately the only real authority here would be what the court say.

1.5 cents
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Sorry for the miscommunication.

Our Use Restrictions are not amended by a vote of the owners, but by a vote of the board. The procedure is: the board proposes the amendment, delivers notice to the owners of the date of the meeting at which adoption will be discussed, provides time for all owners who wish to speak, then the board votes to adopt, then the board mails the new Use Restrictions to all owners, and it becomes effective one month later unless 50%+ of the owners petition to over-rule it.

I, too, am well aware of the distinctions, facts, and terms you listed. And I made it clear that our governing documents are unusual in that they include "Initial Use Restrictions" as an exhibit to the CC&Rs.

As you point out, there isn't always a 100% clear right choice. Which is why I gather as much information as I can so that I can better understand and balance multiple perspectives to inform my choices in those areas where I have the flexibility and responsibility to use my personal judgement--all while acting within my authority as a board member.

My intention with my original question was to get perspectives from other associations who may allow or prohibit conversions, or from those with experience in granting variances. Once our attorney clarifies the scope of our authority, I hoped to use what I learned here to make my decision.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By JohnC46 on 04/25/2023 9:18 AM
Margaret

You say:

Our CC&Rs say that (almost) all improvements require approval before work begins and specifically mentions that "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." Our rules (put in place by the developer 10 years ago) specifically say converting garages to living space is prohibited.

CC&R's outweigh rules so garage conversion are not prohibited but they are subject to approval. We allow garage conversions as long as the exterior garage door remains in place meaning it looks like a garage from the outside.

that's gonna really tank home values IMHO.

vis ta vie
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 4:07 PM
Our Use Restrictions are not amended by a vote of the owners, but by a vote of the board.
[snip]
And I made it clear that our governing documents are unusual in that they include "Initial Use Restrictions" as an exhibit to the CC&Rs.
Now that the forum knows these Initial Use Restrictions may be amended by the board, the complication to which I alluded earlier no longer exists.

The bottom line legally is that, when covenants conflict with Board-controlled rules, the covenants control. Approval for the conversion may be withheld only if there is a very good reason to do so. What a "very good reason" is will depend on what the courts say tomorrow. From my experience, it's now black and white. Granted I realize you are not yet convinced.

I hope you are working with the other directors to resolve this. Hopefully the HOA has a competent, HOA-specialized attorney.
BillD16 (Texas)
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/25/2023 4:07 PM

A meta-comment: I know I speak for myself and I'm pretty sure most of the regulars would agree: you're welcome back here any time!

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
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Ellen,

There is no question that when CC&Rs and rules conflict, CC&Rs prevail. But in this case, there is no conflict.

For example, our CC&Rs say: "Any Owner may remodel, paint, or redecorate the interior of his or her Unit without approval, provided that the work performed complies with all laws applicable to the Local Jurisdiction." If we had a Use Restriction that said, "Kitchen remodels are prohibited"--we do not--that would be a conflict and the CC&Rs would prevail. The HOA would have no authority to deny a kitchen remodel request and the HOA would have no authority to require a change request for a kitchen remodel.

But in the case at hand, the CC&Rs say: "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." As I mentioned above, the CC&Rs include three pages detailing the approval process. It includes mention that the Reviewer can consider any factors it deems relevant in deciding whether or not to approve a request--specifically including Use Restrictions, Residential Design Guidelines, harmony with neighboring structures and environment, and aesthetic considerations. Our Use Restrictions currently prohibit garage conversions. I deem that relevant to the approval process. Someday in the future, that Use Restriction may be removed and the Residential Design Guidelines updated to include requirements for garage conversions. At that point, I would deem those guidelines as relevant to the approval process.

I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm a complete novice. Of course I'm working with the other board members and of course we have an experienced HOA attorney. Respectfully, while you have read 4-5 passages from my governing documents, I have the benefit of having read all 150+ pages dozens of times. I've been on this board going on 8 years, re-elected by a wide margin every year, successfully working with nearly a dozen other board volunteers. I have consulted with four HOA attorneys regarding various aspects of our governing documents--including the attorney who wrote the original CC&R template. Of course I make mistakes, but I'm constantly listening and learning. I'm sure you have impressive qualifications of your own, and I thank you for taking an interest in my original post.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/26/2023 9:44 AM
There is no question that when CC&Rs and rules conflict, CC&Rs prevail. But in this case, there is no conflict.

[snip for brevity]

But in the case at hand, the CC&Rs say: "...modifications to enclose garages as living space shall be subject to approval." As I mentioned above, the CC&Rs include three pages detailing the approval process. It includes mention that the Reviewer can consider any factors it deems relevant in deciding whether or not to approve a request--specifically including Use Restrictions, Residential Design Guidelines, harmony with neighboring structures and environment, and aesthetic considerations. Our Use Restrictions currently prohibit garage conversions.
My take: What your CCR's call "Initial Use Restrictions" may be modified by the Board, with no owner's vote required. Hence I call them Board-controlled rules.

I explained above why the Board-controlled rule that prohibits conversions is in fact a conflict with the CCRs. JohnC46's post also explained this (and more succinctly). But I understand if my explanation did not pass your logic test. Plus communicating post by post is hard.

I will try to find the case law where an appeals court ruled that, where a covenant says approval is required to do xyz, a board may not then create a rule flat-out prohibiting doing xyz. The case law is not from Washington, but I think the reasoning is easy to follow.
BillD16 (Texas)
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Posted By MargaretM5 on 04/26/2023 9:44 AM

... I'm not sure where you got the impression that I'm a complete novice. Of course I'm working with the other board members and of course we have an experienced HOA attorney. Respectfully, while you have read 4-5 passages from my governing documents, I have the benefit of having read all 150+ pages dozens of times. I've been on this board going on 8 years, re-elected by a wide margin every year, successfully working with nearly a dozen other board volunteers. I have consulted with four HOA attorneys regarding various aspects of our governing documents--including the attorney who wrote the original CC&R template. Of course I make mistakes, but I'm constantly listening and learning. I'm sure you have impressive qualifications of your own, and I thank you for taking an interest in my original post.

Not that Ællen needs (or wants!) me to explain for them, but I'm relatively new here myself - so: three things: a) there are a number of people here who are invaluable resources with many years of experience{1}; b) some of them can be cranky{2}; c) a LOT of first-time posters in this forum are complete novices{3}.

Bill

{1} And they've been a Godsend for me and my 'hood.

{2} Maybe if you can set aside age and gender and think of Professor Kingsfield in the The Paper Chase? That's what I do.

{3} I'm personally not surprised that you're not a novice - the 'normal' novice post here is neither especially well-written nor comprehensible. I frequently hit a wall at the 2nd 'paragraph' (I use the term loosely) and just give up, figuring I'm unlikely to be of any help if I can't understand what they're writing about. Admittedly, I sometimes get completely baked and post maudlin rants here, so I don't have a lot of room to talk. But - the quality of the discourse in this thread has been above-average and lacking in the blockheadedness so common to most threads started by a new person, so I hope you'll become a regular.

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Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
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Ellen,

I wonder if you might be referring to protected alterations.

Our CC&Rs go on for three pages regarding rules for amending Use Restrictions. There are several "No Use Restriction may..." passages such as, "No Use Restrictions shall regulate the content of political signs; however, rules may regulate the time, place, and manner of posting such signs (including design criteria) and the Local Jurisdiction's Ordinances
shall apply." So, while we could--we don't--have a Use Restriction that says, "Political signs are limited to one sign per candidate or issue and must be removed within 7 days of the election" we could not have a Use Restriction that says, "Political signs are prohibited."

If garage conversions were mentioned as similarly protected in this section of our CC&Rs, I could better accept your argument, but they are not. They are also not protected by state or local law as, for example, firewise and drought resistant landscaping, solar panels, US flags, etc. are.

MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
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Thank you for the added perspective, Bill.
ElleN (Idaho)
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-- Margaret, when interpreting contractual terms like covenants, from my reading the courts first look to see whether the "plain and ordinary meaning" of the covenant's words are clear. If the plain and ordinary meaning is not clear, then the courts would read the entire Declaration (a.k.a. CC&Rs) to see if the intent becomes clear based on a reading of the Declaration in its totality. If this fails, then the courts would defer to the "free use of property" principle: If the covenants are either silent about xyz, or do not prohibit xyz, then xyz is permitted under the covenants.

-- The covenant states: '[M]odifications [to do xyz] shall be subject to approval.' Courts will break down grammar as needed. I am once again trying to think like an appeals court judge, with you and others also judges on the same appeals court. Grammatically speaking:

"Modifications" is the sentence's subject.

 "to do xyz" is an infinitive phrase. Here the infinitive phrase is also an adjective.

"shall be subject to approval" contains the verb and is the sentence's predicate. 

If the authors of the covenant wanted xyz itself to be subject to approval, then I think they would have written: "xyz shall be subject to approval." But the authors did not. You might then argue that "subject to approval" means the HOA has the right to dis-approve any and all proposed modifications. This would be an effective ban on doing xyz. But then, why does the covenant speak of "modifications" at all?

-- In today's post, you quoted a Declaration section that ostensibly limits how the Declaration may be amended. But first, this section itself may be amended. Owners could even vote to eliminate it in its entirety. Second, I maintain that garage conversions are already protected by virtue of the "plain and ordinary meaning" of the covenant I parsed above.

-- Little aside: As I bet you are aware, Washington's pre-2018 (and so on) HOA statute RCW 64.38 has a section saying a HOA's governing documents may not prohibit political signs before a primary or general election. Perhaps your HOA's Declaration had this statute section in mind. I wonder if much of this Declaration section, ostensibly imposing limits on amendments, is reflecting statutes.

-- As for the "initial use restrictions" (that are subject to change when the board wants to change them) and how they prohibit garage conversions: I am writing this off to the Declarant exercising its rights. I continue to maintain that the Declaration is higher than board-controlled rules in the hierarchy of governing documents, and this board-controlled rule is no longer enforceable (or would be ruled no longer enforceable in a court).

-- All this is only my opinion. I am explaining how I would vote if I were on this board. Obviously I am not there, boots on the ground, dealing with a tough situation.

-- About the parking situation: Parking has been the start of wars at many HOAs and condo associations. I do not take parking lightly. But I also do not take the plain and ordinary meaning of covenants lightly. More might need to be discussed on this point.

-- Quick nod to SheliaH's point: I agree it is way not cool that this owner did not first apply before performing the modifications. My posts above aimed to get to the bottom line of how I would vote. At some point, arguably either a good talking-to, or taking the owner behind the woodshed for twenty licks with a hickory switch, is in order, if the board has the energy. This stuff happens.

-- With reference to BillH16's post: I am thinking the line from "The Paper Chase" that is most relevant here is law student James Hart's retort to contracts professor Kingsfield (when Kingsfield is needling him): "You... are a son of a b-tch!"
BillD16 (Texas)
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Posted By SheliaH on 04/25/2023 11:43 AM
You said:

"the board asked the homeowner to stop work on the project and submit the proper forms for consideration. The homeowner insisted she was just redoing the floor of the living room and, when challenged, grudgingly admitted that she had also added a window and door. She submitted an alteration request that just said, "add door and window and redo floor." It was denied, needing more information.

Since then, the homeowner has been coming to my door, calling, and texting--pleading her case. I tell her I can't speak for the board and have invited her to our next meeting. I have learned that the homeowner wanted to expand her day care into the garage and state regulations required the door and window. She said she had no idea she needed HOA permission. I have also learned that permits for garage conversion were granted, the project passed final inspection, and cost about $40,000. The garage door is still intact, so it still looks like a garage."

And you want to give this person a variance because "she's now willing to cooperate?" Well, if I had 40 stacks already invested in this project. I might say the same thing, but I still don't feel sorry for her. Most of us know you can't assume anything when it comes to HOAs - I don't know how this lady has been living in this community, but you'd think she would have asked someone before going headfirst.

But hey, if you want to grant her the variance anyway, have at it.

I get what you're saying, but IMHO the Board's decision to grant or not grant an exception here shouldn't be any kind of punishment. The daycare lady might be an evil schemer. Or she could just as easily be a person who didn't think it was a big deal - and then discovered she was wrong. Or any number of scenarios{1}.

As annoying as I'm sure it is for this person to be bugging Margaret about the matter, it's (at least) an indication that it's important to daycare lady and that she's taking it seriously.

Bill

{1} FWIW, I believe the US Justice system would treat the situation as two separate matters, ala "murder" and "conspiracy to commit murder".

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MargaretM5 (Hawaii)
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Update: our attorney confirmed that garage conversions are prohibited by our documents. We have several options for getting around that prohibition if we want to, but we don't have to.

Meanwhile, I have blocked the phone number of this owner and her cousin, and I will not be speaking to either of them in person. She tried to talk to me by having a neighbor call me as well.

They now say that I gave them the wrong date for the board meeting at which they were going to seek clarification, causing them to miss it. They say that I "misunderstood" and they never claimed they had converted the garage for use as day care space. And they say that by definition they have not converted their garage to living space, because if they had wanted to do that, they would have had to get permits from the city, and since they never got permits, they clearly did not convert the garage.

Except, we already know that they did get the permits for "Project Description: Garage Conversion". I know I did not give them the wrong meeting date. There is no way I could have misunderstood, "I just wanted some extra play space for the children I look after and the state has a lot of rules, which is why I had to add the door and window".

They have still not filed a formal modification request, except for the original one which was denied for lack of detail as it literally only said, "Add door and window and redo floor."

Still at a loss as to how this should be resolved. The work is already done, though we don't know the full scope. No one really wants a court battle to make them undo it, but we also don't want to open the door to everyone doing the same thing as that would lead to a massive parking problem.

I've recused myself from the review process--so it's not my problem anymore, but I still wonder what the right thing is.

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