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KurtW1 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 9
Posted:
In the deep freeze in early March, our HOA had a number of fire sprinkler pipes break and flood units.

We have been doing repairs in coordination with unit owners. I assume that costs of these repairs not reimbursed by insurance ($25000) would meet the standards to be charged as reserve expenses.

Is that a safe assumption?
MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
Posts: 200
Posted:
No, they are not reserve expenses.

Reserve expenses are for known and predictable maintenance. Sudden freezes don't fall into that category, thus, using reserves to pay for the repair would be inappropriate.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Your board will have to read the covenants carefully. As long as your covenants and Mass statutes do not prohibit using reserves for this emergency repair, then I see no problem.

So far I see nothing in the Mass Condo Act that would prohibit this. (So far I see nothing about reserves at all in this statute.)

The pipes have a life of longer than a year. They should be a reserve component.

The reserve study will have to be re-done post-haste. Owners should anticipate either a special assessment or a large increase in the regular assessment.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
I partially agree with ElleN.

I see no issue borrowing from the reserves to pay for this issue.

However, the reserves will need to be paid back.
This can be done by:

Adjusting expenses/services
Increased assessments
Special assessment
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I agree with Tim on replacing the money from reserves, so homeowners need to prepare fir an adjustment in their assessments. You will also need a reserve study, as ElleN noted - do that THIS year so you know how you'll need to set your budget going forward.

You said some units got flooded - I live in a townhouse community and homeowners are responsible for everything from the drywall in, so read your documents to ensure you're paying for appropriate expenses. All homeowners should seriously consider getting sewer backup/water damage coverage on their individual policies. Its usually not a part of standard homeowner insurance, so they'll need to add it. Loss prevention coverage should also be considered by homeowners (this can help pay for special assessments)

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:

I'm in a condo budging too, Kurt. Jeez, what a nightmare for your Board and Units owners. You're on the Board? Along with
Shelia, I hope Owners have good insurance!

I'm agreeing with MichaelT. Reserves are not for emergency breakage, vandalism, etc. They expicitly are for "predictable" repair//replace expenses. Near the front of your reserve study you'll probably see such wording if your study was done by a reputable certified reserve analyst. There's a national 4-part standard that components in your study must meet; along with lasting at least one year, items expected to last longer than 30 years aren't usually on a study until the analyst and board agrees it's time.

If your building isn't very old, your sprinkler piping is probably not listed on your study. Most kinds of plumbing has a very long estimated life and usually isn't placed by the professionals on the study until the building is say, 15-25 yo.

If that piping component isn't in your study, as Tim suggests, you probably may borrow from reserves to pay for the repairs, but check your state's statutes on this. You may have to pay back the loan in a year or other restrictions might apply. Special assessments probably will be needed too.

If your building is younger than 10 yo, is it possible there are construction defects re: the piping, it's installation, etc.?? id other similar buildings in your area suffer the same kind of images? If even remotely possible, you may want to check with construction defect attorneys, and again, much of this will depend on your state laws re: statutes of limitations.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
For future issues, one could start an insurance deductible line item.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
A keyword search of the Mass Condo Act and yields exactly two sections that say something about reserve funds, as follows:

"'Replacement reserve fund'', a separate and segregated portion of the common funds of the organization of unit owners which shall be used to replace, restore, or rebuild common areas and facilities. " See https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartII/TitleI/Chapter183A/Section1

"All condominiums shall be required to maintain an adequate replacement reserve fund, collected as part of the common expenses and deposited in an account or accounts separate and segregated from operating funds." There is more. See https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartII/TitleI/Chapter183A/Section10

Characterizing the removal of money from reserves (to pay for restoration of a common area component) as a loan, that //will// be paid back promptly, is fine by me.

A reserve study lists specific components. A competent board's budgeting will be based in no small part on what the reserve study says. In some states and per some Declarations/bylaws, owners have a right to vote on budgets. In some instances, this begs the question: Does the reserve study et cetera itself amount to an agreement (between owners and the association) to spend reserve funds only on the listed components? This has come up here before.

But practically speaking in this situation, so far any owner objecting to taking a loan from the reserve fund, with the board's simultaneous commitment to raise the dues or impose a Special Assessment a.s.a.p. to restore the reserve fund to 'adequacy' per statute.

KurtW1 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Here's what our trust documents say about reserves:

"The Trustees shall be required to establish and maintain an adequate reserve fund for the periodic maintenance, repair and replacement Of
improvements to the Common Areas and Facilities which the Trust is obligated to maintain."

We have a reserve study but it doesn't have a component related to the sprinkler pipes.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KurtW1 on 04/08/2023 10:36 AM
Here's what our trust documents say about reserves:

"The Trustees shall be required to establish and maintain an adequate reserve fund for the periodic maintenance, repair and replacement Of
improvements to the Common Areas and Facilities which the Trust is obligated to maintain."

We have a reserve study but it doesn't have a component related to the sprinkler pipes.
Practically speaking in this situation: Suppose the board declares the HOA is going to take a loan from the reserve fund. The board simultaneously commits to raise the dues or impose a Special Assessment per such-and-such plan to restore the reserve fund to 'adequacy' per statute and the covenant above. An owner objects, saying, "Hey, the sprinkler system is not listed in the reserve study. You cannot take a loan from the reserve fund to fix it." In my opinion this owner will have crossed the line to becoming a leading candidate for the position of Chief Complaining Officer (CCO), as some here put it.

The sprinkler system is critical to safety. The insurer will be breathing down the board's neck to get the sprinkler system fixed, or else. IMO it must be fixed, like yesterday. The Board can either shop around for loans from banks (which is one big chore, with no guarantee of a good outcome), or the Board can borrow from the reserve fund and have a plan in place to special assess or raise dues.

Thank you for quoting verbatim your trust documents.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
So, not surprising the sprinklers' plumbing isn't on the study as your building probably isn't old enough in the reserve specialist's opinion, i.e., the study isn't flawed. Best to check with your HOA attorney, but it looks like your HOA probably can borrow from your reserves to pay for what isn't covered by the insurance you mention way above.
MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
Posts: 200
Posted:
I think there is a sublte difference between the OP's question and the responses.

The OP asked if they are a reserve expense. My answer is no, plain and simple. Not anticipated and not funded by the reserve study. The amount of money in reserves is set aside for other purposes.

Many responded with BORROWING money form reserves, but this would have to be paid back.

As a Board member, I'd prefer taking out a loan, which you have to pay back, than use reserves, which only get paid back if the Board wants to pay them back.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MichaelT21 on 04/08/2023 5:05 PM
The OP asked if they are a reserve expense. My answer is no, plain and simple. Not anticipated and not funded by the reserve study. The amount of money in reserves is set aside for other purposes.
Plain and simple: Per Massachusetts statute, the money in reserves "shall be used to replace, restore, or rebuild common areas and facilities." Per the covenants, the money in reserves must be used "for the periodic maintenance, repair and replacement Of improvements to the Common Areas and Facilities which the Trust is obligated to maintain."

There's no dispute the sprinklers are common areas.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
Did you have $25,000 damage to the common elements, or does that include damage to the units?

Are you doing repairs to the units? If so, a common practice is to push the cost of the deductible onto the unit owners, and the unit owner's share of the deductible will get covered by the unit owner's insurance.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KurtW1 on 04/07/2023 4:32 PM
In the deep freeze in early March, our HOA had a number of fire sprinkler pipes break and flood units.

We have been doing repairs in coordination with unit owners. I assume that costs of these repairs not reimbursed by insurance ($25000) would meet the standards to be charged as reserve expenses.

Is that a safe assumption?

I would use Reserve Funds to "REPLACE" a portion of that sprinkler system that needs replacing before I'd assess the community or destroy the operations budget. Going forward, it will be smart to cover weatherization of those attic water pipes.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Kelly's comments bring me back to asking: if the building is new enough, should attic piping have been weatherized when constructed? If so, could this damage have come from a construction defect, improper lack of weatherization that doesn't meet accepted building standards??

No question they're common area, but if they weren't in the study because their estimated lifespan was really long, they are not reserve components.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
I would feel assured that those condos were built to full standards for the year they were constructed. In some of community's condos, the sprinkler lines where installed ABOVE the fiberglass insulation in the attics and weren't covered by styrofoam, etc. It was a problem for over 20 years....then, one winter, it was a problem.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
So if it's were it probably was done right.

This reminds me. We owned a top story Unit of a 3 story low rise in Charlotte that was new at the time. Had no thought of it, but I guess the sprinklers lines did run through our attic. Despite the gawdawful racket of car hoods and trash cans flying though the air in a pitch-black midnight, our sprinkler piping and all else survived Hugo really well.

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