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JosephS30 (New Mexico)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Hello,

I am the President of an HOA. The Treasurer abandoned their responsivities and is non-responsive to emails, phone calls, text messages, Instant Messages, etc.
What can I do to have them removed? I had to remove them from the HOA bank Account.

Joseph
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:

1. Review your bylaws for your HOA.

2. Generally, the HOA board of directors can vote to remove this person from their position as "Treasurer," making them a general board director.

3. Your bylaws may dictate that there's a limit on consecutive meeting vacancies before a person will automatically be removed as a director.

OR

If you have no trouble with quorum in this person's absence, you can remove them as treasurer and then ignore them.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
As Kelly noted, the rest of the board can replace the treasurer if you documents allow it - usually board members pick officers from among themselves, but for him/her to leave the board itself, homeowners have to vote out the board member, do a recall or the nember resigns. Or is automatically out after missing X number of consecutive meetings (in my community, it's 3).

All of that said, are you sure something else hasn't happened like a major medical situation involving the family? Has anyone stopped by the house to see if there's a problem? It might be nice to try that before jumping to conclusions. If this has gone on for a few months, it's probably OK to drop the member at the appropriate time.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Keep in mind that Officers and Directors are two different positions.

The Board can remove the person as an Officer.

The Board can not remove the person as a Director (unless they appointed them to be a Director).
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I second Tim's caution. Has this person abandoned their obligations as an officer (ie. the obligations of a treasurer) but is otherwise in contact with the rest of the board and in participating in discussions and voting? Or have they essentially disappeared and are not responding to anything?

Some bylaws specify that a director who has missed three consecutive board meetings without notice is deemed to have resigned, so check your bylaws for similar provisions. When this happens, the board can appoint a replacement director. Then it's up to the board to re-allocate the officer duties.

JosephS30 (New Mexico)
Posts: 5
Posted:
CathyA3, This person is not responding to any of the other officers, such as the Secretary, VP, design committee, and of course myself. They completely checked out. They still own the property within the sub-division which therefore are a member of the HOA and have to pay their HOA Yearly Dues. I removed them from access to the HOA Bank Account and took over their responsivities such as preparing invoices for the yearly HOA Dues.
I was nominated and voted as the new HOA President and try to learn the legal requirements. We don't have any Bylaws and I would need to research what they are and how I can adopt them into the HOA Covenants.
JosephS30 (New Mexico)
Posts: 5
Posted:
TimB4, This person is not responding to any of the other officers, such as the Secretary, VP, design committee, and of course myself. They completely checked out. They still own the property within the sub-division which therefore are a member of the HOA and have to pay their HOA Yearly Dues. I removed them from access to the HOA Bank Account and took over their responsivities such as preparing invoices for the yearly HOA Dues.
I was nominated and voted as the new HOA President and try to learn the legal requirements. We don't have any Bylaws and I would need to research what they are and how I can adopt them into the HOA Covenants.

Also, we don't have a Board, only Officers. The Developer of the Sub-Division did not establish a Board when he created the Covenants. I'm not sure what the Board's responsibilities are.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
JosephS30, I recommend going to the NM Secretary of State site https://portal.sos.state.nm.us/BFS/online/corporationbusinesssearch and looking up your HOA. See if there are signs of "Articles of Incorporation" being on file with the state. Sometimes the state will also have the bylaws. You can call the SoS. The SoS staff are typically very helpful in assisting people with locating these records.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Is your association a corporation? If so, you do have Bylaws somewhere. Until you can find them, you should rely on your state's corporation codes. If you are a corporation, probably a non-profit corporation, those corporation codes probably say you must have a board of doctors, or similar.

If you're a corporation, one of your governing documents is Articles of Incorporation. Some, like my HOA, have very little info in them. Others have many important topics in them

If the covenants do not say anything about a board of directors, or similar language, what do they say about how decisions are made concerning the association's common areas? Do your covenants state that owners elect officers, and then names the officers?

What size is your HOA? How old?
JosephS30 (New Mexico)
Posts: 5
Posted:
SheliaH, We have tried reaching out to him asking if he's okay, yet he is very active on Social Media, such as Facebook and Instagram. I had no choice but to post on his FB and Insta asking him if he has checked out and has no further interest as being the Treasurer. He blocked me and unfriended me, so I take that as yes. So we are moving on until we nominate and elect a new Treasurer.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JosephS30 on 03/14/2023 9:13 AM

Also, we don't have a Board, only Officers. The Developer of the Sub-Division did not establish a Board when he created the Covenants. I'm not sure what the Board's responsibilities are.

Without looking at your documents (and posting rules prevent mentioning of names), I can only say that:

Directors make decisions for the Association by majority vote (awarding of contracts, set assessment amounts, etc.)

Officers implement those decisions and handle the day to day tasks of running the Association (collecting assessemnts, paying bills, maintaining the records, overseeing the contracts, etc.).

If you care to share your governing docs, I can be reached at [email protected]
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JosephS30 on 03/14/2023 10:36 AM
SheliaH, We have tried reaching out to him asking if he's okay, yet he is very active on Social Media, such as Facebook and Instagram. I had no choice but to post on his FB and Insta asking him if he has checked out and has no further interest as being the Treasurer. He blocked me and unfriended me, so I take that as yes. So we are moving on until we nominate and elect a new Treasurer.



If that’s what he’s doing, suggest that the board send him a letter advising him of his removal from the treasurer spot as of X date. Before you do, you should have a board meeting or executive session to discuss this and make it official (board resignations and such should be reflected in board meeting minutes). Your letter can also ask if the member still plans to serve on the board – if not, you would appreciate a written resignation on or before the next meeting date.

Also check your documents (which you should have already done) to see if board members are considered to have resigned if they miss X number of meetings. If he’d no longer attending those either, you might be able to consider him gone and appoint someone else to serve out the term – and if you keep records, you may not even need to send him a letter, although I’d do it anyway to have written documentation.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JosephS30 (New Mexico)
Posts: 5
Posted:
KerryL1, The Covenants was established in 2004. It's pretty old. As mentioned by ElleN I'll check with the Secretary of NM. It is a non-profit business entity.
Thank you for your help everyone!!
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
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Posted By JosephS30 on 03/14/2023 2:20 PM
KerryL1, The Covenants was established in 2004.
This is young for NM HOAs. The Secretary of State site may have documents for your HOA corporation that help you a lot.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
So, Joseph, can you tell the names of the document that you DO have? Please remember the word is "corporation," and you state's Corpration Code can tell you a lot if you can find no bylaws. ElleN's right. 2004 isn't consider that old.

What DO your covenants say about who governs or makes decisions about the common areas in your HOA? Owners ("members") have some voice, but who or what group has the authority to make other decision?

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