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EllieM (Florida)
Posts: 1
Posted:
I live/work in NY and bought a condo in Palm Beach County FL that has a 2 year restriction before I can lease it out.

I purchased this condo to be near my very elderly mother and brother who are disabled and live alone in a small apartment nearby.
Since the purchase in June 2022, have been emptying, renovating and updating the unit.
Unfortunately my job situation changed recently and I cannot leave NY now except for a few days a few times a year.

Long time family friends (55+ couple) are willing to care for my mom and brother every day in exchange for me allowing them to live in my condo rent free.
They have no children or pets or smoke. Good quiet hardworking people. My mom knows this couple for many many years and is only comfortable with them attending her. Same for my brother who is so overweight he needs 2 people to move him.

Will I have trouble with the HOA? Can't I as an owner allow my family's caretakers to live in my condo rent free?
There is no lease, no rent, utilities will remain in my name etc.

Someone suggested I ask the HOA to allow for an exception (waiver/??) and that I would pay a fee for the privilege of allowing them to live in my condo. That way I could explain to neighbors that I am simply paying for this privilege and not "getting away with it." That it's for a good reason, and that it's helping the HOA out even more with this special, one-time exception.

Any any any help appreciated. Thank you.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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If I were on this board, I think I'd find myself stuck saying, no, because this elderly couple would still be tenants (they pay for the use of the unit via their labor), and the covenants are contractual terms which the board has a duty to enforce. No leasing for two years means no leasing for two years. Some might find this hard-nosed, but saying "yes" sets a precedent. As a volunteer director, I would want as little hassle as possible for the association with questions from other owners about selective enforcement, inconsistent application of the covenants, and the like.

Besides, how are you going to prove this couple is not actually paying you rent?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
How about giving us the exact wording of the restriction and letting us know what document it's in.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
Many condo associations have a hardship provision that may allow you to do what you want to do. With Kerry, what is the wording in your governing documents?
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
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Posted By ElleN on 03/12/2023 2:47 PM

Besides, how are you going to prove this couple is not actually paying you rent?

My take is that it would be on the association to prove that they are.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By ElleN on 03/12/2023 2:47 PM
If I were on this board, I think I'd find myself stuck saying, no, because this elderly couple would still be tenants (they pay for the use of the unit via their labor), and the covenants are contractual terms which the board has a duty to enforce. No leasing for two years means no leasing for two years. Some might find this hard-nosed, but saying "yes" sets a precedent. As a volunteer director, I would want as little hassle as possible for the association with questions from other owners about selective enforcement, inconsistent application of the covenants, and the like.

Besides, how are you going to prove this couple is not actually paying you rent?

That's how I see it, unfortunately. The caretakers would be paying "rent" in the form of labor - they are definitely tenants, not owners.

Other considerations:

* Would you need to register yourself and/or this unit with the county/local municipality as a landlord/rental? In my area, then answer would be "yes".

* Do landlord-owners have to provide a copy of the lease to the association?

* Any Fair Housing issues that may arise (for the landlord-owner and for the association)? I'm guessing "yes" - these issues should be considered by the board so they're prepared if and when the time comes.

It's none of my business, but the obvious way to avoid this trouble is to pay the caretakers a salary and let them sort out their own housing. This may even be in their best interest since they wouldn't have to worry about the tax implications of this "free" housing, which the IRS would have opinions about. HOA/COA laws and regulations were designed mostly around owner-occupants, some of whom may choose to rent out their property to a traditional tenant who signs a lease and pays rent. Association laws weren't designed to accommodate situations like this.

Questions from some of the more-alert neighbors are probably unavoidable. This is good and bad (good because nosy neighbors often spot trouble early on).

JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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This is a tough situation. I was the main driver behind adding a restriction for no rentals for 1 year after buying. Looking back I wish I had given thought to potential situations like this. Maybe there would have been a way to add some type of thorough review process for someone looking for valid exceptions for medical/emergency situations?

As a nation we are getting older and this problem will probably increase for HOA's
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Maybe I am the one looking at this differently. Why would the HOA need to know? You already have relatives living the place. Which I would already define as "Renters/Tenants". Why add more to the story? The HOA isn't signed on your lease are they? They don't own your property. They would have a hard time being able to kick anyone out or enforcing fines. A good lawyer in this case a Real Estate attorney may off you the best advice.

Many believe just because you have a renter's clause in your HOA documents it's enforceable. Not necessarily the case. That is why need to talk to an attorney. The HOA is a 3rd party to any lease agreements. You better make up your own lease agreement with those people before you put them in either way. Things could go badly if not in writing.

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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I don't think occupants are EITHER owners OR tenants. How can the HOA prove that these occupants aren't "caretakers" of the home or "guests."

Old friends stayed in our condo for a few weeks while my spouse & I travelled far away in '19. We registered them with our HOA as "permanent authorized guests," to make sure they had access to our amenities without us accompanying them. Even as guests, they did housework, cleaned our balcony floor, watered plants, washed our bath & pool towels and bedding, and our home was immaculate when we returned.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 9:51 AM
We registered them with our HOA as "permanent authorized guests," to make sure they had access to our amenities without us accompanying them.
If the OP's HOA has such a policy (consistent hopefully with the covenants), then this would certainly help solve the problem.

The board would have to remain vigilant for owners who want to cheat, though, trying to pawn off as "permanent authorized guests" people who are actually tenants or gosh-forbid, AirBnB renters.

I admit I picture myself on this board being quite skeptical, and yes, with an eye to the best interests of the HOA. Landlords are pretty notorious for doing anything they can to get rent, including throwing covenants and rules out the window.

I am not sure I buy the merit of a Fair Housing Act complaint (on the basis of disability discrimination?). I find this a bit extreme here and probably worth fighting. Maybe Cathy can change my mind on the point (as she has in the past).
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Another option for Ellie might be referring to this couple as her "employees." In exchange for their labor (whatever that may be), Ellie provides them with free housing. there is no lease involved.
(Let Ellie figure out the tax issue if any, an employment agreement, workers' comp & other implications)

The purpose of the 2-year non-lease covenant or rule is to keep the homes, perhaps owned by thoughtless landlords, from the frequent turnover by renters who may not be excellent residents.

Our "permanent authorized guest" rule is exactly that, a rule. It's hard to imagine what kind of covenant it might conflict with. After 22 years, we never have had anyone abuse it, so far as I know. Friends here often have a woman stay in their condo to do light housework, manage their USPS mail, & care for their two little dogs while they travel a couple of times year for a few weeks each. She is not a tenant.

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 11:22 AM
The purpose of the 2-year non-lease covenant or rule is to keep the homes, perhaps owned by thoughtless landlords, from the frequent turnover by renters who may not be excellent residents.
Continuing to pretend to be on the OP's condo board, I would rebut:

The turnover rate for home healthcare aides is notoriously high. Who's to say that this situation in fact does not turn into a revolving door of home health aides?

The OP bought this condo with eyes wide open. Rules are rules. Covenants are covenants. As is much discussed here, a ban on renting for the first two years of ownership is quite effective. Unless some sort of policy (consistent with the covenants) for P.A.Gs is in place, I advise boards not to get cute about circumventing the covenants.

I will say this, though: Condo boards are often unsophisticated. Chances are good the OP could use some of the arguments here and sway a majority of the board to allow the couple to stay in the condo. If I were on a board where the majority was unsophisticated and voted thusly, I would ask that the two-year clock be reset the minute the elderly caretaking couple moved out. So if they stay for two years, the owner still cannot rent for the subsequent two years. Stingy? Maybe. Interested in serving the best interests of the condo: Absolutely.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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Posted By ElleN on 03/13/2023 11:37 AM
Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 11:22 AM
The purpose of the 2-year non-lease covenant or rule is to keep the homes, perhaps owned by thoughtless landlords, from the frequent turnover by renters who may not be excellent residents.
Continuing to pretend to be on the OP's condo board, I would rebut:

The turnover rate for home healthcare aides is notoriously high. Who's to say that this situation in fact does not turn into a revolving door of home health aides?

The OP bought this condo with eyes wide open. Rules are rules. Covenants are covenants. As is much discussed here, a ban on renting for the first two years of ownership is quite effective. Unless some sort of policy (consistent with the covenants) for P.A.Gs is in place, I advise boards not to get cute about circumventing the covenants.

I will say this, though: Condo boards are often unsophisticated. Chances are good the OP could use some of the arguments here and sway a majority of the board to allow the couple to stay in the condo. If I were on a board where the majority was unsophisticated and voted thusly, I would ask that the two-year clock be reset the minute the elderly caretaking couple moved out. So if they stay for two years, the owner still cannot rent for the subsequent two years. Stingy? Maybe. Interested in serving the best interests of the condo: Absolutely.

You advise Boards based on what qualification?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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One observation: it can be difficult for boards to remain impartial or consistent with enforcement when they have situations that appeal to the emotions, as this case would. The temptation is to bend the rules for "deserving" individuals when you wouldn't do so for others, leading to selective enforcement.

Change the cast of characters.

Instead of elderly or disabled relatives living in an apartment nearby, replace them with younger relatives or just good friends. Replace the condo owner with a young, well-to-do individual who travels regularly and who decides they want to rent out the condo to make some money between visits. If you were on the condo board, would you be inclined to make any sort of exception to your rental restriction in this case? If you would come to different decisions in these two situation, then I say you're basing your decision on your emotional reaction to "deserving" persons. Especially in this case since the elderly, disabled persons are not condo owners and the association has no obligations to them under Fair Housing laws (I think, I'd want a lawyers' opinion though, just to be sure).

If I were facing a situation like this, I'd sell the condo - I'd probably get a good price since it's newly fixed up. Then I'd use the proceeds to hire a caregiver for the elderly/disabled relatives. Conflict with the condo association is totally avoidable, IMHO, as are all of the issues I'd run into when owning out-of-state property (ie, hiring a property manager to manage it).
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Why not move your mother and brother into the condo, problem solved.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Snip good approach for how board members should think about these things.
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Posted By CathyA3 on 03/13/2023 12:32 PM
Especially in this case since the elderly, disabled persons are not condo owners and the association has no obligations to them under Fair Housing laws (I think, I'd want a lawyers' opinion though, just to be sure).
I already have in mind an outline of the letter that I could suggest the OP here send to the board to invoke Fair Housing Law. Its legal premise comes from your and my discussions. If the OP wants to stir up things in a bad way, she absolutely could.

I am pondering whether to aid and abet. I think I prefer the OP to lawyer up. With Cathy's earlier post and this post she already got some significant free legal advice.

I agree the OP should consider selling the condo. Considering this might get her to see things in two ways, in the same way Cathy suggests a board think about this in two ways.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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We need to know the language of Ellie's governing documents about leases and in which document it's found. Does Ellie even need anyone's approval to place these ppl in her home? Do know, Ellie, that none of this so-called Free legal advice" here comes from lawyers.

Ellie might need an attorney's quick advice on whether she can be an employer who provides housing for her employees. This would involve an employment agreement and most certainly is not a lease.

I was an honest-to-god-very long term active board member in a condo building within 5 blocks of a sports arena, a convention center (15,000 were here last week!), numerous restaurants & clubs, a hands-on kids museum & a "nautical" "village" on the waterfront. Those with sour opinions of human beings would think all kinds of scams are being run by "sleazy" landlords, who bring in rowdy tenants in exchange for big bucks. But it just doesn't happen, except rarely, and hasn't the 16 years I've lived here. And we do have a few actual live-in home health aides. They have caused no problems and tend to stick around for a long time. They are not tenants. Unlike actual lessees who have lots of stuff and, in my building, furniture, that slows down our elevators, when these live-in workers leave, it's usually with a couple of suitcases.

Ellie doesn't want live-in health aides. She wants her long-time personal friends to be her employees to look after patients elsewhere and also maintain Ellie's home. Sure, some could try to scare board members into finding this a threat to the residential quality of the neighborhood, but that simply is not likely. Neighbors might welcome them and ask about them. They can answer very honestly & I really don't think it'd scare the neighbors one bit.

MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 7:44 PM
We need to know the language of Ellie's governing documents about leases and in which document it's found. Does Ellie even need anyone's approval to place these ppl in her home? Do know, Ellie, that none of this so-called Free legal advice" here comes from lawyers.

Ellie might need an attorney's quick advice on whether she can be an employer who provides housing for her employees. This would involve an employment agreement and most certainly is not a lease.

I was an honest-to-god-very long term active board member in a condo building within 5 blocks of a sports arena, a convention center (15,000 were here last week!), numerous restaurants & clubs, a hands-on kids museum & a "nautical" "village" on the waterfront. Those with sour opinions of human beings would think all kinds of scams are being run by "sleazy" landlords, who bring in rowdy tenants in exchange for big bucks. But it just doesn't happen, except rarely, and hasn't the 16 years I've lived here. And we do have a few actual live-in home health aides. They have caused no problems and tend to stick around for a long time. They are not tenants. Unlike actual lessees who have lots of stuff and, in my building, furniture, that slows down our elevators, when these live-in workers leave, it's usually with a couple of suitcases.

Ellie doesn't want live-in health aides. She wants her long-time personal friends to be her employees to look after patients elsewhere and also maintain Ellie's home. Sure, some could try to scare board members into finding this a threat to the residential quality of the neighborhood, but that simply is not likely. Neighbors might welcome them and ask about them. They can answer very honestly & I really don't think it'd scare the neighbors one bit.


ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 7:44 PM
Ellie doesn't want live-in health aides. She wants her long-time personal friends to be her employees to look after patients elsewhere and also maintain Ellie's home.
By your logic, as long as the tenants are exceptional, anyone should be able to rent in violation of the two-year rule. This opens the door to selective enforcement problems.

I do not envy a board that has a complaint from an owner about permitting renting (in the two-year window) in one case but not another. Worse, the board will be stuck with speaking at length about Ellie's personal situation to defend its decision-making. This is quicksand.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Posted By ElleN on 03/14/2023 7:03 AM
Posted By KerryL1 on 03/13/2023 7:44 PM
Ellie doesn't want live-in health aides. She wants her long-time personal friends to be her employees to look after patients elsewhere and also maintain Ellie's home.
By your logic, as long as the tenants are exceptional, anyone should be able to rent in violation of the two-year rule. This opens the door to selective enforcement problems.

I do not envy a board that has a complaint from an owner about permitting renting (in the two-year window) in one case but not another. Worse, the board will be stuck with speaking at length about Ellie's personal situation to defend its decision-making. This is quicksand.


I agree.

This why I suggested that boards who are tempted to make an exception should mentally replace the individuals involved with less sympathetic characters and see if that changes their minds. If it doesn't change their minds, then maybe there is some solid support for reconsidering the restriction itself. If they view the two situations differently, then they're likely reacting to the individuals involved and not the situation. That's when selective enforcement can occur.

Similar example we faced: the adult children of a homeowner who had died requested permission to hold an estate sale at the condo. The homeowner was my next door neighbor. was well liked in the community, and I'd met her kids and grandkids. Our association attorney *strongly* recommended that condo boards not permit yard sales in their communities (for good reasons, he'd seen things go badly wrong including uninsured injuries on the common elements). I think any thoughtful director is going to feel like a heartless a-hole if they tell the grieving family no, whereas they will probably have no trouble saying no to somebody who just wants to clear out a bunch of junk. Same situation, just different individuals involved. It's tough.
LoriM15 (Florida)
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Our condos have similar 2-year restrictions to prevent investors. After hurricane Ian there was a huge lack of housing. Condo owners were trying to open their condos to homeless families. We had two cases in our condo sub-associations where requests were made for a waiver of the two-year restrictions to provide housing for homeless families who were qualified and passed all the tenant evaluations (background and credit checks). One sub-association worked with their attorney to do a resolution to allow a waiver for six months. The other sub-association refused to even consider.

I can see both arguments. The OP is in a tough situation. Our bylaws define exactly what a guest is vs a tenant and, although we don't have a rental time limit for the master association, if we did have a limit, the OPs tenants would be considered real tenants even if they didn't pay actual rent. The OP could probably do it quietly and move them in, but in our condos the word would be out in no time.
KerryL1 (California)
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I have not attempted any logic to try to say that the "goodness" of the occupants "means" they should be permitted to be tenants. I have, in fact, resisted the use of the words tenants, lessees, or renters for this situation because the proposed occupants are none of these. The potential arrangement between the owner and the proposed occupants is not a lessor/lessee relationship. It is employer/employee. The occupants' compensation for caring for Ellie's off-site parents and maintaining Ellie's home is free housing.

I'm sure we've all heard about the king of England's multiple home, some of which he rarely if ever visits. Nonetheless they all have a full-time staff of employees to care for the buildings and grounds. Some live there. Wealthy US families also may have one or more full-time, live-in caretakers of their large 2nd, 3rd & 4th homes. These individuals are not even close to being tenants or lessees.

Several blocks from our condo is a place on the Bay where huge private sailing and motor vessels come to visit. Often the boat owners are not on the yacht. Perhaps they'll meet up with the vessel in Tahiti. Live-aboard crews maintain it and its "toys": the jet skies, the helicopter, the skiff. They are not tenants.

If Ellie's Board were involved, they would be making no exception to the no-lease covenant or rule. No covenant or rule would be violated unless the wording in Ellie's documents shows us otherwise.

Say, Lori, what distinctions do your docs make between tenants & guests.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By LoriM15 on 03/14/2023 9:54 AM
Our condos have similar 2-year restrictions to prevent investors. After hurricane Ian there was a huge lack of housing. Condo owners were trying to open their condos to homeless families. We had two cases in our condo sub-associations where requests were made for a waiver of the two-year restrictions to provide housing for homeless families who were qualified and passed all the tenant evaluations (background and credit checks). One sub-association worked with their attorney to do a resolution to allow a waiver for six months. The other sub-association refused to even consider.
Were I on these sub-associations' boards, I would have used FS 720's emergency powers section to justify a vote supporting the six month waiver, with the conditions you describe. Specifically I would have used the wonderfully vague FS 720.316 (1) (f). I think the latter is just vague enough that by the time certain owners (in the middle of a disaster) had lawyered up and completed their demands, six months would have passed.

But key difference between the approach Lori describes and what the OP wants: Lori's sub-association emergency modification applies to //all// owners and appears to avoid the possibility of emotions playing a role in the board's decision of who gets a waiver and who does not.
ElleN (Idaho)
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For Florida condos, that would be emergency powers section FS 718.1265 (1) (f).
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Ellie, imo, would not be asking for a "waiver" because she will not be having lessees residing in her HOA home. I did not and would not even try to compare it to Lori's example.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Ellie, imo, would not be asking for a "waiver" because she will not be having lessees residing in her HOA home. I did not and would not even try to compare it to Lori's example.

To me the artificial bifurcation of occupants as EITHER lessees OR owners is misguided and tries to obscure the diverse social or familial arrangements that may occur in residences.

I do not see why "emotions" should enter Ellie's situation. Just because ElleN apparently has served on boards where emotions have played a major role in decision-making--though she has not said so-- does not mean that any or all board members are unable to be objective. I'm not even sure why ElleN tosses that in to her approach except as a distraction? It might be an interesting subject in its own thread.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/14/2023 12:08 PM
To me the artificial bifurcation of occupants as EITHER lessees OR owners is misguided and tries to obscure the diverse social or familial arrangements that may occur in residences.
Perhaps. Or maybe a covenant prohibiting occupancy by non-owners without the owners present aims to thwart the same thing as rules against tenants, short-term-rental occupants and so on.

More importantly, I would put the OP's chances of prevailing here (and without even lawyering up) at 50%. Boards are often pushovers; often struggle to understand the legal structure of their corporation; and often do not think about a slippery slope. It's more like: They know they're in-charge. They'll do whatever they want.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 03/14/2023 12:08 PM
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To me the artificial bifurcation of occupants as EITHER lessees OR owners is misguided and tries to obscure the diverse social or familial arrangements that may occur in residences.

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This bifurcation is a direct result of the language in many CC&Rs, unfortunately, which boards are required to enforce. I agree that this language doesn't reflect the realities of how many people live.

Ordinarily when a board is having trouble with their CC&Rs as currently written, I suggest they consider amending them to something more workable. But this issue is bigger than one community and should probably be addressed in state laws instead - one overall change that can ripple down to individual communities, rather than piecemeal fixes at the community level. Time for an Op-Ed???
KerryL1 (California)
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The trouble is that we don't know the language in Ellie's governing docs, or in which doc the language is present. Another thought: Ellie wrote that due to a job-duties change she can only visit her family members in FL a few times a year, for a few days each. Assuming she stays in the home she owns in the "spare room," how does that matter if at all?

While I haven't seen that any section from rules or covenants that "[prohibit] occupancy by non-owners without the owners present," we do see various limits from time to time on this forum. I don't think this sample covenant wording is real, is it, ElleN? For one thing, shouldn't it state how much in a given year must the Owners reside on the premises to be considered "present??" How would that be enforced by an HOA?

Our old CC&Rs stated condo units couldn't be used for "transitory or hotel or motel purposes." To deter short-term rentals in the mid-teens, we, with our then-HOA attorney's advice, made a Rule that rental terms must be 30 days or longer. He based this term on the typical minimum terms of many municipalities near us, though our own is silent. He warned us that we really needed to update our CC&Rs to specify a minimum rental term limit, which we did in '22.

I don't think it's useful to predict how any given board will rule on any seemingly tricky subject, how directors may not "think about" a so-called "slippery slope, etc." There're way too many variations among HOAs and among their boards to be so confident.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Kerry, my recollection is that many condos have rules that require guests to be accompanied by the owner at all times.

What we know is that, starting the day of purchase, there is a two-year prohibition on rentals.

But I get it: You think this is too vague and subject to interpretation. The OP could lawyer up and demand of the HOA: "Where is 'rental' defined? Because if it is not defined, I think 'rental' is too vague, especially in this situation. Vagueness means you have to err on the side of the owner. Or would you rather go to court to find out?"

Sure, the OP could do as you are proposing. Because the truth is every word can be argued to pose an existential, epistemological and etymological question.

But then there are just, as the courts put it, "plain meanings" and what the word means in the context of the contract (the covenants) in its entirety. Which could end up favoring your position. Or it could end up favoring mine.

My vote would not change, however. Because I see a "plain meaning" where you see 'vagueness." I believe this is clearly an exchange of the use of living space for something of value (services to the very elderly mother and disabled brother), meaning a rental.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
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The board can approve your rental if your governing documents have a hardship provision. Hardship provisions are fairly common. Plenty of articles on the internet. A hardship provision seems to be part of the trend in leasing restrictions.

Ellie, if you're still reading, I suggest you get a hold of your condo declaration (and amendments) and read the section on leasing. This may be what "someone suggested" and sometimes it does have a fee. If you do not have a hardship provision, you can suggest to your board that they get one.

Here is an example of a hardship provision from a condo in CT:
"The Board of Directors may, in its discretion, grant exceptions to one or more of the
requirements of this Article due to proven hardship such as a Unit Owner’s military duty, extended hospitalization, or other extreme circumstances. The Board will respond to such applications within thirty days, but its failure to do so shall not be //deemed consent."

Here is a longer, more detailed hardship clause from GA:
"Hardship Leasing Addendum [this is an addendum to their leasing application]

"Information regarding Hardship Leasing Permits may be found in the Section 4i of our governing documents and bylaws.
"Please see the excerpt from the bylaws:

"If failure to lease will result in a hardship, the Owner may seek to lease on a hardship basis by applying to the Board of Directors for a hardship leasing permit. The Board of Directors shall have the authority to issue or deny requests for hardship leasing permits at its discretion after considering the following factors: (1) the nature, degree, and likely duration of the hardship, (2) the harm, if any, which will result to the Condominium if the permit is approved, (3) the number of hardship leasing permits which have been issued to other Owners, (4) the Owner’s ability to cure the hardship, and (5) whether previous hardship leasing permits have been issued to the Owner. A “hardship” as described herein shall include, but not be limited to the following situation: (1) a Unit Owner must relocate his or her residence outside the greater Atlanta metropolitan area and cannot, within six (6) months from the date that the Unit was placed on the market, sell the Unit except at a price below the current appraised market value, after having made reasonable efforts to do so; (2) where the Owner dies and the Unit is being administered by his or her estate; and/or (3) the Owner takes a leave of absence or temporarily relocates and intends to return to reside in the Unit. Hardship leasing permits shall be valid for a term not to exceed one (1) year. Owners may apply for additional hardship leasing permits. Hardship leasing permits shall be automatically revoked if during the term of the permit, the Owner is approved for and receives a leasing permit.
"Supporting documentation confirming your hardship is required. Applications without supporting documentation will be deemed incomplete and will not be reviewed.
"**Please Note: Hardship leases are approved for a one year term, at which time you will need to re-apply and submit another $50 leasing application fee.**"
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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ElleN seems to want to throw everything at the wall hoping something will stick. She wrote "...many condos have rules that require guests to be accompanied by the owner at all times." I doubt that such a rule exists. Many HOAs DO have a rule that residents (whether owners or tenants) must accompany their guests to use the recreational amenities. They don't need to accompany the latter down the hallway, to the dumpster, etc. This has nothing to do with Ellie's situation. We don't even know if she has amenities. The proposed couple will not be guests they will be the owner's employees, caretakers of Ellie's condo, or even "roommates." Are the latter permitted in Ellie's docs? We do not know.

The only attorney I suggested is one who can draw up an employment agreement between Ellie & the couple. I, with great intent in my posts, very rarely bring up, let alone recommend, lawyering up, what an owner's hypothetical chances might be in court against their HOA, etc., etc. ElleN's characterization of my alleged "proposal" has no foundation in anything I wrote here (or anywhere else).

There is no earthly reason to go anywhere near posing anything that leads to existential, epistemological and etymological questions.

Instead, the "plain meaning" of words within the context of the documents in which they appear makes sense to me. Sadly, we don't have the words in Ellie's docs to accurately discuss their plain meaning. But let's say that the OP's use of the word "lease" is a word in her docs. It takes only a few minutes, even for someone as slow at research as I, to see that lease is an agreement for the use of something--a car; a home in exchange for payments. "Rent" as a noun is payment to occupy an Owner's room, home, land, garages, boat, etc. "Tenant" is someone who pays rent. "To rent" as a verb is the activity of paying someone to use their personal property. Ditto, "lease."

I noticed that NONE of these definitions say rent is the occupation of someone else's property in exchange "for something of value." We should not make up definitions. I suppose if someone wanted to dig really deep and find obscure perhaps Latin- or French-based etymology, one might find such a definition. But to stick with the ordinary, everyday, current U.S plain meaning, there's no support for the "something-of-value attempt.

JeffT's material on hardships is so interesting and it seems many HOAs would benefit by adding such language. I was thinking about service members, etc. too.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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I have seen "must be accompanied by owners" provisions for things like guests using the pool, and it makes sense in these situations. Otherwise a private facility could slide over into becoming public, at which case ADA compliance becomes an issue. And liability, of course, which is something a board must always consider.

One thing that I think we're missing is that many of the restrictions, rules, etc. exist for the benefit of the association as a whole, *not* for the benefit of individual owners. In many of the threads we've discussed here, an individual was butting heads with something that was not intended to benefit that particular owner in that particular circumstance. It's not surprising that there are issues, because sometimes the desires of an individual will conflict with the interests of the association as a whole. The trick is deciding where to draw the line, especially if the situation does not involve things like Fair Housing rights where the law as at least somewhat clear.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
How can an Owner accompany their guest to use the recreational amenities when the Owner (a landlord) lives in a different state and a tent occupies the residence? That's why the language in my Rules & Regs & probably in many others is that the "resident" must accompany their guests to use amenities. Our CC&Rs, in fact, state Owners may not use the amenities once they have tenants in their unit and do not reside at the HOA. This, too, is very common.

I entirely agree with Cathy that covenants and rules exist to protect the HOA and especially its common areas. As a long-time board member, my approach always was to ask myself the question: Does this, or that, benefit my community? I'd do my best to identify & then try to strip away any personal biases when pondering decisions. It becomes a habit and not difficult after some time.

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