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NpB (Arizona)
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What would you do in this situation?

An owner e-mails you only as a Board member because you are the person they are familiar with on the Board and whose e-mail address they have. They send you an e-mail wishing to file a complaint about an HOA matter.

Would you respond by instructing the owner to make a formal complain with the management company, who will disseminate the e-mail to the entire Board, or would you forward it yourself to the other Board members?

MaxB4
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Posted By NpB on 02/13/2023 2:00 PM
What would you do in this situation?

An owner e-mails you only as a Board member because you are the person they are familiar with on the Board and whose e-mail address they have. They send you an e-mail wishing to file a complaint about an HOA matter.

Would you respond by instructing the owner to make a formal complain with the management company, who will disseminate the e-mail to the entire Board, or would you forward it yourself to the other Board members?


I would gladly take the complaint and let them know I am forwarding it to the MC to begin the process of resolution.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Entirely agree with Max. Ownres do know to make complaints to the manager, right, NpB?
NpB (Arizona)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 02/13/2023 2:27 PM
Entirely agree with Max. Ownres do know to make complaints to the manager, right, NpB?

I honestly don't know.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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If you don't know, you should since you're a board member.

Go ahead and forward the complaint, but remind your neighbor of the proper procedure. If she squawks, tell her that (1) this is part of the property manager's job (2), this ensures a paper trail in case the owner has to follow up and (3) UT can also ensure all issues are addressed consistently and fairly. - you don't want to be accused of using your position to curry favor for your friends and no one else.

I suspect your colleagues may have the same problem, so it might be a good idea to post something in your newsletter or website (preferably both) about tg5e protocol and why it exists. This way everyone dies tge same thing and doesn't get accused of favoritism or something.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
NpB (Arizona)
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Posted By SheliaH on 02/13/2023 2:39 PM
If you don't know, you should since you're a board member.

Go ahead and forward the complaint, but remind your neighbor of the proper procedure. If she squawks, tell her that (1) this is part of the property manager's job (2), this ensures a paper trail in case the owner has to follow up and (3) UT can also ensure all issues are addressed consistently and fairly. - you don't want to be accused of using your position to curry favor for your friends and no one else.

I suspect your colleagues may have the same problem, so it might be a good idea to post something in your newsletter or website (preferably both) about tg5e protocol and why it exists. This way everyone dies tge same thing and doesn't get accused of favoritism or something.

We don't have a formal procedure for these kinds of things and the property manager is not an on-site one. So whether I forward the complaint to the property manager or instruct the owner to do so, I guess the consensus is that such complaints should be directed to the property manager, which makes sense.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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NBP

When anyone on the BOD receives a complaint, someone on the BOD will be tasked to investigate. If that person finds it valid then a formal notice of violation will go out under our PM's signature. We always protect the complainer even when the tip is anonymous.
NpB (Arizona)
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I have been on the other end of complaint situation as a homeowner and I sent an e-mail to that HOA's property manager and instructed manger to send to ENTIRE Board. I would not want to place a burden on just one person. But that's me and everyone behaves differently.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Well then, it's high time the board create one - unless you and your colleagues want to spend all your free time reviewing complaints.

Our property manager is also off site, so depending on the complaint, it'll be referred to the department in the management company or back to the board. You and work with your property manager in drafting a policy. Some things you might address:

Reminder of what the property manager does vs.the board so you don't waste time complaining to the wrong people

Information you need like nsme, address. Complete descriptions, etc.

Anonymous complaints

What to do in emergencies- and what constitutes an emergency

Disputes between neighbors This might also include a few words from your police department on when they should be called xo you can avoid things like heating/cooling repairmemn or women getting the police called on them because they have a different skin color. Like this guy:

https://www.theroot.com/karen-calls-the-cops-of-hvac-technician-for-just-doing-1850099775


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Shelia gives good advice, NpB. Your Board should make a policy and make sure Owners know about it.
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
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I get those emails from homeowners all the time. I send them to the PM but I usually send a reply myself to thank them for contacting me and letting them know we are looking into it. Usually I'm pretty non-committal because most of the time they are not important for the association. I always tell them that our PM will look into it.

I get the regulars (coconut guy, yard waste guy, pickleball guy, pool lady) and then had one the other day from a guy who was upset that too many planes from the airport are flying over our community. Sometimes they are important issues - but everybody deserves a response until they get nasty. Yard waste guy is officially on my "do not respond" list now.

MarshallT (New York)
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Forward the complaint this time and let them know the process for next time. If you tell them to send the message to the MC, it may feel to them like you're giving them the runaround and you don't care about what they have to say.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
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Posted By NpB on 02/13/2023 2:00 PM
What would you do in this situation?

An owner e-mails you only as a Board member because you are the person they are familiar with on the Board and whose e-mail address they have. They send you an e-mail wishing to file a complaint about an HOA matter.

Would you respond by instructing the owner to make a formal complain with the management company, who will disseminate the e-mail to the entire Board, or would you forward it yourself to the other Board members?


As a director, you should simply pass the complaint to the management company. The management company is an information clearinghouse on matters like this. When you sidestep the MC, you are opening an argument that you're not handling good-faith complaints in an equitable manner.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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If you do not have an MC then the issue should be discussed with the board at their meeting. They should be making the decision.

Former HOA President
LmT (California)
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Posted By LoriM15 on 02/14/2023 6:13 AM
I get those emails from homeowners all the time. I send them to the PM but I usually send a reply myself to thank them for contacting me and letting them know we are looking into it. Usually I'm pretty non-committal because most of the time they are not important for the association. I always tell them that our PM will look into it.

I get the regulars (coconut guy, yard waste guy, pickleball guy, pool lady) and then had one the other day from a guy who was upset that too many planes from the airport are flying over our community. Sometimes they are important issues - but everybody deserves a response until they get nasty. Yard waste guy is officially on my "do not respond" list now.


This made me smile. We have the β€˜mower guy’. He wanted us to ask the adjacent golf course not to mow so early in the morning. πŸ˜‚
ND (PA)
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It depends.

Either way, I would follow whatever process has been established. (Note: If no process actually established, then do that immediately.)

Assuming the process is for the MC to receive complaints (for recording, tracking, proper routing, other admin) and then forward them to the Board . . .

Depends on my personal relationship with the owner. I might choose to help shepherd them through the process and forward the complaint on their behalf to the MC (copying the owner). Or I might inform them of the process and provide them contact info for the MC so they can send their complain directly to MC themselves. Either way, owners should know the process so you don't become the frequent and initial recipient of complaints.

But if the process is that the MC receives complaints and sends to the Board, then I would definitely not try to shortcut that process by sending to the Board Members myself.
MarkM19 (Texas)
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I do a little of most of what all have said here. I always respond if the email is sent directly to me quickly. If the email was sent to our board email depending on the subject matter, I sometimes respond and in either case I copy the PM and mention that this type of request should always be directed to him first. I always start my email with I am not responding to your note as the Board. I am only 1/5 of the board and can't speak on the boards behave at this time.

As I always remind my board no matter what the subject is if you do not clearly make that the first sentence in the email they will say "The Board Said" which I clearly did not say.

The reason why I respond is often these notes are sent Friday evenings and the owners expect answers as if the PM or PMC waits on the calls 24 hours a day. Luckily, we have a great manager who does respond very quickly to most owners.

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