JoyceM8 (Texas)
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Posted:
Hello, we are in Texas, does anyone know if the HOA president resigns, does the vice president take over, or does that position have to be voted on?? Thanks
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JoyceM8 (Texas)
Posts: 22
Posts: 22
Posted:
We are a new HOA, with only 7 houses, which none or built but 1! We can not agree on anything, the president resigned and now the vice president says he's in charge, no one likes him!
can he be or does he have to be voted in?
Its a true mess, we are in the country with old houses and trailers arond us, it seems crazy to have a HOA, we were never charged a HOA fee upon buying property, but all othe 6 lots were,
I would like to be done with these people! Anyone can help? Much appreciated!
can he be or does he have to be voted in?
Its a true mess, we are in the country with old houses and trailers arond us, it seems crazy to have a HOA, we were never charged a HOA fee upon buying property, but all othe 6 lots were,
I would like to be done with these people! Anyone can help? Much appreciated!
JoyceM8 (Texas)
Posts: 22
Posts: 22
Posted:
We are a new HOA, with only 7 houses, which none or built but 1! We can not agree on anything, the president resigned and now the vice president says he's in charge, no one likes him!
can he be or does he have to be voted in?
Its a true mess, we are in the country with old houses and trailers arond us, it seems crazy to have a HOA, we were never charged a HOA fee upon buying property, but all othe 6 lots were,
I would like to be done with these people! Anyone can help? Much appreciated!
can he be or does he have to be voted in?
Its a true mess, we are in the country with old houses and trailers arond us, it seems crazy to have a HOA, we were never charged a HOA fee upon buying property, but all othe 6 lots were,
I would like to be done with these people! Anyone can help? Much appreciated!
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Typically the Vice President does not assume the role of President. Their job is to do meetings if President can not attend. Otherwise must be votes on from amongst board members.
Read your documents. Articles of Incorporation should have it I believe.
Read your documents. Articles of Incorporation should have it I believe.
Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
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Posted:
normally this would be in your Bylaws, so look for the info. Generally the officers, like prez, are elected by the Board only. So that is what you board probably needs to do.
MaxB4
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Posted By KerryL1 on 02/11/2023 4:56 PM
normally this would be in your Bylaws, so look for the info. Generally the officers, like prez, are elected by the Board only. So that is what you board probably needs to do.
normally this would be in your Bylaws, so look for the info. Generally the officers, like prez, are elected by the Board only. So that is what you board probably needs to do.
The Vice President takes over UNTIL a new president is voted on. Bylaws will state the Vice-President shall act in his absence. I have to assume that their resignation means they're going to be absent for a while.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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No. Not the way it works. This is not the US government. It is Corporate set up. Vice President does not take over. They keep the same position because it is theirs. President has to be chosen again.
Former HOA President
MaxB4
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/11/2023 7:34 PM
No. Not the way it works. This is not the US government. It is Corporate set up. Vice President does not take over. They keep the same position because it is theirs. President has to be chosen again.
No. Not the way it works. This is not the US government. It is Corporate set up. Vice President does not take over. They keep the same position because it is theirs. President has to be chosen again.
Holy s#it
MarkM19 (Texas)
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Posted:
I am with Max on this one. Most CC&Rs and By-laws state that the VPs job is to fill in if the President is absent. If he quits and put that in writing, I will say they are absent of their duties.
A meeting of the existing board members should be scheduled asap. At this meeting the positions can be reassigned if the board chooses.
Joyce,
How many homes are scheduled to be built in your HOA? Usually, the developer maintains control of the HOA till the community get more established so IMO this is a little strange.
A meeting of the existing board members should be scheduled asap. At this meeting the positions can be reassigned if the board chooses.
Joyce,
How many homes are scheduled to be built in your HOA? Usually, the developer maintains control of the HOA till the community get more established so IMO this is a little strange.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
Former HOA President
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/12/2023 6:24 AM
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
What part of "UNTIL" don't you understand?
MaxB4
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/12/2023 6:24 AM
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
Melissa didn't read the question, just assumed. The question was if the president resigns does the VP take over? The answer is YES. The question wasn't if the president resigns does the VP become president.
MaxB4
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/12/2023 6:24 AM
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
I am not sure that was what Max was saying. The facts are the Vice President is their OWN position. Just like Secretary or Treasurer. Their JOB is to take over the meetings when the President is absent for a meeting. It does NOT mean they inherit the President position if they quit, move or deceased. They may handle the meetings until a new President is voted in. Does NOT make the President. This is a Corporation NOT a Government.
Presidents don't just run meetings. Wake up and smell the coffee.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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I read it perfect. Just like I read my own rules on the matter and other HOAs. The President resigns the VP does NOT take over. Period. Can you read any of your HOA documents?
A HOA is a corporation. It is NOT a government. Different structure. Government are set up this way. Corporation are not. VP is a VP is VP.
A HOA is a corporation. It is NOT a government. Different structure. Government are set up this way. Corporation are not. VP is a VP is VP.
Former HOA President
MaxB4
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/12/2023 12:13 PM
I read it perfect. Just like I read my own rules on the matter and other HOAs. The President resigns the VP does NOT take over. Period. Can you read any of your HOA documents?
A HOA is a corporation. It is NOT a government. Different structure. Government are set up this way. Corporation are not. VP is a VP is VP.
I read it perfect. Just like I read my own rules on the matter and other HOAs. The President resigns the VP does NOT take over. Period. Can you read any of your HOA documents?
A HOA is a corporation. It is NOT a government. Different structure. Government are set up this way. Corporation are not. VP is a VP is VP.
I'm done with your stupidity.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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The typical duties of the Vice President (as outlined in the Bylaws of your Association) are:
The Vice-President shall act in the place and stead of the President in the event of his/her absence, inability or refusal to act, and shall exercise and discharge such other duties as may be required of him/her by the Board.
Hence, as Max and others have pointed out, the VP would act in place of the President (perform those duties), but remain the VP and continues to also perform any VP duties.
Once the Board appoints a new President, then the VP would no longer perform the Presidents duties.
Or, as Max plainly posted:
"The Vice President takes over UNTIL a new president is voted on. Bylaws will state the Vice-President shall act in his absence."
The Vice-President shall act in the place and stead of the President in the event of his/her absence, inability or refusal to act, and shall exercise and discharge such other duties as may be required of him/her by the Board.
Hence, as Max and others have pointed out, the VP would act in place of the President (perform those duties), but remain the VP and continues to also perform any VP duties.
Once the Board appoints a new President, then the VP would no longer perform the Presidents duties.
Or, as Max plainly posted:
"The Vice President takes over UNTIL a new president is voted on. Bylaws will state the Vice-President shall act in his absence."
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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That is what I SAID! The VP will stay VP and automatically become President. They will stay VP in position and then a new President will be elected. The VP returns to being the VP. The Government the VP becomes the President automatically if the President is no longer President for whatever reason. A CORPORATION this is NOT the case. A new President is voted on entirely. Not sure why that was so hard to understand and I some how got that wrong cause did not use the word "Until". Good Grief.
Former HOA President
MaxB4
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How does a VP stay a VP and automatically become President?
Outside of your stint at a self-managed HOA, what real HOA experience do you have?
Outside of your stint at a self-managed HOA, what real HOA experience do you have?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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What are you talking about Max? The VP never becomes President. They fill in till an new President is elected. The VP is the VP is the VP. Their duties is basically the "substitute" teacher of the HOA.
Former HOA President
MaxB4
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/12/2023 7:07 PM
What are you talking about Max? The VP never becomes President. They fill in till an new President is elected. The VP is the VP is the VP. Their duties is basically the "substitute" teacher of the HOA.
What are you talking about Max? The VP never becomes President. They fill in till an new President is elected. The VP is the VP is the VP. Their duties is basically the "substitute" teacher of the HOA.
You just said the VP automatically becomes president, which is it?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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I never said that. Where? The VP is doing their duty for filling in for the President. That is their job or duty. That is not the same as becoming or being the President. Where are you getting this stuff?
Former HOA President
MarkM19 (Texas)
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Max and Melissa,
You guys need to give it a rest. This is hoatalk not FB.
You guys need to give it a rest. This is hoatalk not FB.
MaxB4
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Posted By MarkM19 on 02/12/2023 8:20 PM
Max and Melissa,
You guys need to give it a rest. This is hoatalk not FB.
Max and Melissa,
You guys need to give it a rest. This is hoatalk not FB.
There's a difference?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Posts: 13,836
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Thank you. I just need to be called "Stupid" or other names because Max puts his words in my mouth... I just don't get how hard it is to get the concept. My boss goes on vacation I don't get their position, just their responsibilities that week. Otherwise, there would be more bosses in danger if all had to do is make them "go away" to become CEO...
Former HOA President
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