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JanineR (Tennessee)
Posts: 259
Posted:
Long time reader on HOATalk

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The Board is knowingly doing things against the Governing Documents.
And I'm on the Board.

Whenever these motions comes up I vote No. But lose.

Now what can I do to protect myself from D&O liability?
And what can I do to force the board to make decisions that are within our fiduciary duty of master deed, by laws and state statutes.

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Condos Tennessee, approx 145 units

WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Like what? This group has many examples of bod members knowingly breaking rules or laws.
People say they didn't hold annual meetings during covid
People say they enforce no solar on front of house even though FL solar rights law allows for that sometimes
People forcing owners to pay past owners fees etc

Threaten to write insurance company informing thrm that board is breaking the rules? Write newsletter?

vis ta vie
JanineR (Tennessee)
Posts: 259
Posted:
There are many examples.

One example is annual audit
Our state laws do not require an annual audit, but our Master Deed and Bylaws do.

The board has decided not to do perform them for the two years I am on the board.

Our community size is 145 units. Our annual revenue is around $1mil, plus $2.5 mil new loan and 3 insurance claims going on adding up to multi millions on top of our revenue and loan.
We switched management companies in the middle of this.
Plus we increased fees about 60%
Plus a $10k special assessment in a year.

But the board (which I am on) voted for no audit

What can I do to protect myself as a D&O or force the board to take this to the ownership for their decision if 3 out of the 5 directors don't want to?

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Master Deed wording
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Financial Statements:
If the Condominium consists of fifty (50) or more Units, then the Association will make available to the holder, insurer, or guarantor of any first mortgage that is secured by a Unit, upon submission of a written request, an audited financial statement pertaining to the Association for its preceding fiscal year.
Such an audited financial statement will be prepared for each of the Association's fiscal years and shall be made available for inspection not later than one hundred twenty (120) days after the end of each pertinent fiscal year. If the Condominium consists of fewer than fifty (50) Units, and there is no audited statement available, then the holder, insurer, or guarantor of any first mortgage secured by a Unit may, at its expense, have an audit of the books, records and financial statements of the Association prepared and delivered both to it, and to such holder, insurer or guarantor.

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ByLaw wording
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f) An audit of the accounts of the Association shall be made annually by a certified public accountant, and a copy of the report shall be furnished to each member not later that on hundred twenty (120) days following the year for which the report is made.

WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Well what do your bylaws say about removal of board members?most of the time they can believe voted out by the membership

Our bylaws state we need to do yearly audit as well. Pretty sure it's never been done for last 5 years
It wouldn't surprise me if it's never been done in the last 25 years

vis ta vie
JanineR (Tennessee)
Posts: 259
Posted:
67%

But the question is how can I protect myself as a D&O as insurance will unlikely cover us if we don't follow our governing documents if money is missing.

And how can I as a director in the minority force other directors to open this up to the owners per the master deed and bylaws.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The best thing you can do would be to have the minutes show you, by name, voted against.

You can ask that they specify the reason why, but I doubt that would make it into any Board minutes.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
I would contact the HOAs insurance agent
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
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Posted By JanineR on 02/08/2023 3:21 PM
67%

But the question is how can I protect myself as a D&O as insurance will unlikely cover us if we don't follow our governing documents if money is missing.

And how can I as a director in the minority force other directors to open this up to the owners per the master deed and bylaws.

contact your insurance company and or resign.

vis ta vie
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By MaxB4 on 02/08/2023 3:36 PM
I would contact the HOAs insurance agent

Max,

Other then raising rates or simply dropping the policy, what is it you believe the insurance company could do?
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/08/2023 4:34 PM
Posted By MaxB4 on 02/08/2023 3:36 PM
I would contact the HOAs insurance agent


Max,

Other then raising rates or simply dropping the policy, what is it you believe the insurance company could do?

It would be called a whistleblower. Cover their butts, so to speak, especially if they want to stay on the Board.

Here is the problem when you may have a board, and I have gone through it personally. In the process of trying to get a majority of do-gooders, especially if you have a staggered term, the Board at the time could vote to send the force of a law firm after you just for retaliation. So, a bad board of three can use the association and could go after the remaining two good guys.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
they could put in writing that the BOD will be personally liable if any one sues the board.
then a short time latter a member sends the BOD a letter threatening to sue them for not doing an audit
then short time after than BOD changes their tune and decides to do an audit because they dont' want to be personally liable?

vis ta vie
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You do know what an audit does? Plus it cost money to do. It sounds like your HOA is already under a lot of waste if it's getting loans and special assessments. That means your HOA isn't collecting enough money as it is spending out. Having the Audit is going to point out quite a many problems or even make better suggestions on how to manage the HOA money. Not sure anyone on your HOA board wants to hear it. If they did, then they would stop and breath to take that step.

The option I suggest? Bring your HOA documents to EVERY meeting. Have them in EVERY meeting. Stop and say "Let's consult the documents". It doesn't have to be an immediate reaction. Simply say lets take time to review the documents before making a decision. Let's not time waste a meeting but also learn how to respond after consideration of consulting the rules. Always refer to the parts of the documents when responding. Make sure to have the latest and greatest copies on file as well.

If you want them to follow the rules the HAVE the rules! That is what I did in our HOA. Brought a copy and made sure to reference them. Once you start that process it will help change the "culture" of your HOA into being more considerate of the rules or deciding to change them as needed.

Former HOA President
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/08/2023 5:23 PM
You do know what an audit does? Plus it cost money to do. It sounds like your HOA is already under a lot of waste if it's getting loans and special assessments. That means your HOA isn't collecting enough money as it is spending out. Having the Audit is going to point out quite a many problems or even make better suggestions on how to manage the HOA money. Not sure anyone on your HOA board wants to hear it. If they did, then they would stop and breath to take that step.

The option I suggest? Bring your HOA documents to EVERY meeting. Have them in EVERY meeting. Stop and say "Let's consult the documents". It doesn't have to be an immediate reaction. Simply say lets take time to review the documents before making a decision. Let's not time waste a meeting but also learn how to respond after consideration of consulting the rules. Always refer to the parts of the documents when responding. Make sure to have the latest and greatest copies on file as well.

If you want them to follow the rules the HAVE the rules! That is what I did in our HOA. Brought a copy and made sure to reference them. Once you start that process it will help change the "culture" of your HOA into being more considerate of the rules or deciding to change them as needed.

HOLY CRAP!

Their governing documents state they have to do either a review or audit and deliver to owners within a specific period of time. If the Board doesn't have to follow rules, why in the hell does a owner have to.

I would argue that in a court of law every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
And where did I not say not to do it? I SAID to START by reading the Rules and start going by them. If Audit is IN the rules then would you not start to do one if you start to follow the rules> Or is this another way just to find one miniscule thing to jump on me about?

Former HOA President
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/08/2023 5:55 PM
And where did I not say not to do it? I SAID to START by reading the Rules and start going by them. If Audit is IN the rules then would you not start to do one if you start to follow the rules> Or is this another way just to find one miniscule thing to jump on me about?

Bringing a copy of the rules to a meeting solves the issue

CLUELESS
JanineR (Tennessee)
Posts: 259
Posted:
The board already has a copy of the governing documents, and I have become a broken record say "but but but, it says here this"
So that's not helping.

2 directors make motions knowing that they are in contradiction with the master deed and bylaws.
And one director says yes to take the path of least resistance.
Which leaves 2 of us as the minority.

The audit is just one example.

Spending has gone crazy.

Signatures on checks are not in accordance with our bylaws. It is so loose.

Besides resigning, or waiting it out for a new board ... what are other options to get the board to start respecting the governing documents?

And also protect myself.

Tennessee is not an open meeting state. We are supposed to have monthly board meetings, but the President calls them ad hoc weekly over zoom, takes quorum of 3, and calls them a board meeting. Which means only 2 need to say Aye.

Would a letter of concern help? From a lawyer?

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Who says it resolves everything? It is a start. Having them is not the same as referring or understand them. However if you are forced to do it then maybe will start to learn...

Former HOA President
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/08/2023 8:19 PM
Who says it resolves everything? It is a start. Having them is not the same as referring or understand them. However if you are forced to do it then maybe will start to learn...

I quit
TomG16 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 7
Posted:
HOA boards can do as they want. They write the rules, and can make it what ever they want. Why? Because we have national, state, local govs that let them, and are as bad as the HOA, self serving, run by mostly lawyers. Do I need to say more? Only protection is to stay away from HOA communities.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Actually HOA stands for Homeowners association. That means the owners own, fund, and operates the HOA. If there are lawyers involved it is because someone is always bringing one in to threaten suit against, legal advice, or filing of legal papers.

When you sue or threaten to sue your HOA you are suing yourself and your neighbors. The HOA has to hire a lawyer to defend itself whenever someone wants to bring one against them. I find it funny that that person then complains about how high the HOA legal bills are... When they caused them!

Former HOA President
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
the other thing you should do if they don't listen to the insurance company's warning is to simply sue them, take them to small claims court, pay the $100 and ask them to reimburse you.

Sometimes just threatening to sue them works too.

vis ta vie
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
This is a 145 unit condominium.

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Posted By TimB4 on 02/08/2023 3:35 PM
The best thing you can do would be to have the minutes show you, by name, voted against.
I agree.

If an owner files a lawsuit and names all the directors as defendants, I would expect the association's insurer to figure out whom it will indemnify. I think you are kind of stuck with either resigning from the board, changing the board makeup at the next annual election, or rolling the dice via continued service as a director.

To get an audit done, and especially since this is not an open board meeting state, you could ask that the subject be put on the agenda for the next annual meeting. The board really should agree to put this on the agenda, but it may not. Try anyway. Make the proposed topic something like: "Discussion of when, if ever, the annual audit that bylaw ___ requires will happen."

What year was your condominium established?

Per the Tn condo act, I think your only other options to make the audit happen are either: change the makeup of the board via a campaign and the annual election; or resign, lawyer up and force compliance via Tn Condo Act section 66-27-211. This will cost you a few thousand dollars at least. You will not get the money back.

I would not contact the insurer without board authority. Doing so would be going rogue. It has legal implications too complicated for a layperson to sort out.
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/09/2023 7:35 AM
Actually HOA stands for Homeowners association. That means the owners own, fund, and operates the HOA. If there are lawyers involved it is because someone is always bringing one in to threaten suit against, legal advice, or filing of legal papers.

When you sue or threaten to sue your HOA you are suing yourself and your neighbors. The HOA has to hire a lawyer to defend itself whenever someone wants to bring one against them. I find it funny that that person then complains about how high the HOA legal bills are... When they caused them!

While I do agree that suing the HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors, there are situations where the BOD leaves owners no other alternative. After all other efforts have been exhausted with no change, owners are left with one of two choices...either sue or walk away leaving the BOD to continue in their "less than good" ways. Like the OP, we are dealing with a BOD that is intentionally not complying with a handful of state laws and unfortunately, the state does nothing to enforce their own statutes thus compelling owners to hire attorneys to seek remedies. I feel as if our BOD is playing a game of chicken literally betting the owners will not file a lawsuit and if we do, there will be people like you Melissa who will blame the victims rather than focus the blame on those whose choice of action (or inaction) has precipitated drastic measures. HOA Lawsuit prevention strategy is so simple....serve the best interests of all of the association, be transparent and follow the law.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By JeanneH3 on 02/09/2023 8:56 AM

. . . unfortunately, the state does nothing to enforce their own statutes thus compelling owners to hire attorneys to seek remedies.

This is because the applicable laws are considered civil laws and not criminal.

The State enforces criminal laws.

Civil laws are enforced by the parties involved either by agreement amongst themselves or through the courts.

You are right, sometimes one has to choose if this is the battle they want, contact the attorney and fight the good fight (sometimes on principal alone).
Personally, I think things should be resolved at the lowest level possible.

Gathering support and voting people out and replacing with people that will comply with the governing documents and applicable statutes (even if it takes a few years) is usually the quickest and lest expensive.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I never once blamed the victim. That is how you take that fact statement. Suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors no matter right or wrong. It is the consequences. Whether you want to play or be a victim has no relevance.

The irony? Your rules allow things to change if you all just apply them. It is set up with safeguards on how to change what does not work or those who do not. Start within before going out.

Former HOA President
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
Posted:
Tim brings sanity to these issues; Max brings humor. Thanks to both of you, I love this website!
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I agree with Tim. To protect yourself, make sure your no votes are recorded in the minutes and also your reason for voting no if the board will allow it.

Also check you bylaws to make sure that the prez can call these frequent meetings. Are there no notice requirements for directors?

JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/09/2023 9:05 AM
Posted By JeanneH3 on 02/09/2023 8:56 AM

. . . unfortunately, the state does nothing to enforce their own statutes thus compelling owners to hire attorneys to seek remedies.


This is because the applicable laws are considered civil laws and not criminal.

The State enforces criminal laws.

Civil laws are enforced by the parties involved either by agreement amongst themselves or through the courts.

You are right, sometimes one has to choose if this is the battle they want, contact the attorney and fight the good fight (sometimes on principal alone).
Personally, I think things should be resolved at the lowest level possible.

Gathering support and voting people out and replacing with people that will comply with the governing documents and applicable statutes (even if it takes a few years) is usually the quickest and lest expensive.

I completely agree with your comment that issues should be resolved at the lowest level possible. That has been our goal from day one which, by the way, was over a year and a half ago. But "voting them out" becomes rather simplistic when one is dealing with a BOD that is violating two state statutes regarding elections thus creating a situation where it is impossible for new candidates to win. I suspect we will be compelled to file a petition with the court to force the BOD to comply with the law regarding elections because the BOD is ignoring every low level appeal for change we've been making.
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/09/2023 9:26 AM
I never once blamed the victim. That is how you take that fact statement. Suing your HOA is suing yourself and your neighbors no matter right or wrong. It is the consequences. Whether you want to play or be a victim has no relevance.

The irony? Your rules allow things to change if you all just apply them. It is set up with safeguards on how to change what does not work or those who do not. Start within before going out.

My statement in regards to the consequences of suing the association was, "there will be people like you Melissa who will blame the victims rather than focus the blame on those whose choice of action (or inaction) has precipitated drastic measures." After we went public with a blog documenting all the issues our committee of owners were experiencing from the BOD, there were one or two owners who took the position that we were the evil entities causing drama because while we have never mentioned a lawsuit or any legal action of any kind, these owners felt the situation was heading to a lawsuit. That made us bad in their opinion. Classic blame the victim for the resulting drama rather than focusing on the behavior and choices of action that precipitated the need to address the problems created by others.

You seem to have a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that there are bad board members and bad boards and the only way to oust them may be a lawsuit.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Again putting words in my mouth and ASSUMING. You came up with that Conclusion and perception all on your own. Even fed into your own story to justify it. As if I don't know a thing about "bad boards" or dealing with a bad HOA. How do you think I became President??? Because the water was warm and inviting and could not wait to jump in? Do you think I didn't also bring a lawsuit against my HOA before? You would be completely wrong on all of that. Again YOUR ASSUMPTIONS and attributing YOUR opinion on what I think or feel based on your emotions NOT mine.

FYI: When I moved into my first HOA I knew nothing about HOA's. Had gotten out of an abusive relationship and this was my first house. The President stopped by to welcome me to the neighborhood. Let me tell you he was one tall dark handsome and single man. We hit it off and I was convinced the whole "Break up with someone you meet the "One" next". The first month I was living the "Dream". A great man, good community, and smell of flowers in the air...

Then this thing called "Reality" sat in. It came in hard and fast. The man of my Dreams was what nightmares are made of. He was a scumbag con-man trying to rip off the HOA. I discovered through meeting other neighbors all about his scam ways. Turns out this guy was a piece of work. Plus hired people who were his drug dealers to do the lawncare! Found out he was paying his dues by convincing other women to pay them for him. Luckily I discovered this early on.

He was trying to con me into becoming the President of the HOA so he could use me. He thought if I was "in love" with him that I would do anything he wanted. That turned out to backfire on him completely. Instead I fired his "drug dealing" lawncare. I stuck to the rules. I also made sure his little "handy man" service was forced to be licensed and insured before he touched any job in the HOA. He had been working without a license or insured prior to me being there. Which was illegal.

Later I was elected based on the fact I was able to keep the "evil" group at bay from ruining the rest of the HOA. I spent 2 -3 years keeping those "bad" seeds out of the HOA board. They were part of his "group" who was in it for the money and greed. At every turn I had to watch my back non-stop. I couldn't even skip a meeting because he as Vice-President would hold votes behind my back to get money or bad decisions.

I can tell you more horror stories I had to deal with him and his "friends". When I quit, they took over. Bankrupted the HOA in a month and did an illegal special assessment. Which I had to hire a lawyer to stop with a few other owners. After 6 months people realized what I had been up against the whole time. Nothing but a bunch of liars and manipulators. At that point I had moved on. However, I am the first one who can tell you about "Bad HOAs". Also the first one to tell you how to CHANGE it for the better.

Former HOA President
JeanneH3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 158
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/11/2023 7:03 AM
Again putting words in my mouth and ASSUMING. You came up with that Conclusion and perception all on your own. Even fed into your own story to justify it. As if I don't know a thing about "bad boards" or dealing with a bad HOA. How do you think I became President??? Because the water was warm and inviting and could not wait to jump in? Do you think I didn't also bring a lawsuit against my HOA before? You would be completely wrong on all of that. Again YOUR ASSUMPTIONS and attributing YOUR opinion on what I think or feel based on your emotions NOT mine.

FYI: When I moved into my first HOA I knew nothing about HOA's. Had gotten out of an abusive relationship and this was my first house. The President stopped by to welcome me to the neighborhood. Let me tell you he was one tall dark handsome and single man. We hit it off and I was convinced the whole "Break up with someone you meet the "One" next". The first month I was living the "Dream". A great man, good community, and smell of flowers in the air...

Then this thing called "Reality" sat in. It came in hard and fast. The man of my Dreams was what nightmares are made of. He was a scumbag con-man trying to rip off the HOA. I discovered through meeting other neighbors all about his scam ways. Turns out this guy was a piece of work. Plus hired people who were his drug dealers to do the lawncare! Found out he was paying his dues by convincing other women to pay them for him. Luckily I discovered this early on.

He was trying to con me into becoming the President of the HOA so he could use me. He thought if I was "in love" with him that I would do anything he wanted. That turned out to backfire on him completely. Instead I fired his "drug dealing" lawncare. I stuck to the rules. I also made sure his little "handy man" service was forced to be licensed and insured before he touched any job in the HOA. He had been working without a license or insured prior to me being there. Which was illegal.

Later I was elected based on the fact I was able to keep the "evil" group at bay from ruining the rest of the HOA. I spent 2 -3 years keeping those "bad" seeds out of the HOA board. They were part of his "group" who was in it for the money and greed. At every turn I had to watch my back non-stop. I couldn't even skip a meeting because he as Vice-President would hold votes behind my back to get money or bad decisions.

I can tell you more horror stories I had to deal with him and his "friends". When I quit, they took over. Bankrupted the HOA in a month and did an illegal special assessment. Which I had to hire a lawyer to stop with a few other owners. After 6 months people realized what I had been up against the whole time. Nothing but a bunch of liars and manipulators. At that point I had moved on. However, I am the first one who can tell you about "Bad HOAs". Also the first one to tell you how to CHANGE it for the better.

The salient points of your horror story are that 1) you were warned of the then HOA president's nefarious ways by your neighbors early on; 2) you spent "2-3 years" dealing with a disloyal board that would vote against you if you dared miss a meeting; 3) and you did not change anything for the better because the moment you quit, everything reverted back to the old ways very quickly and you were compelled to hire a lawyer. Your tenure on the board left no lasting legacy and the only "good" came from hiring a lawyer.

Thank you for your candidness but I don't intend to emulate your way of dealing with an out of control board.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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The property values went up several thousands of dollars while I was in office. The board was not doing anything behind my back just the Ex-President who was Vice-President. (He made himself that). Our HOA was very successful when I took over. When I left it failed miserably.

However, you want to be a superior #itch about stuff go ahead. I don't care.

Former HOA President
MiaR1 (Illinois)
Posts: 46
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Just my 2 cents.

TimB4 and MaxB4 are voices of reasoning from my observations of their responses to OPs questions. No disrespect intended for other responders as your responses are just, I am simply conveying my thoughts about Tim and Max based on their responses to this topic. Besides Tim and Max, Cathy, Augustin are the other gems I appreciate learning from.

Melissa, thank you for sharing your story in a public forum. It’s definitely not an easy thing to do, hence, learning about your story, validated my own horror story of my own condo association of shunning me, harassing, and discrediting me turning me into a person with no credibility.

What we all either refuse to be aware of, know, believe or accept that by design HOA, COA were set up as one sided loaded with enormous power without accountability. Accountability demands enforceability and individual homeowners are hardly ever in any position to demand enforcement of accountability from its COA, HOA. Sure state, city, municipal laws are in place for homeowners’ sake, but, even such laws are unenforceable by the homeowners without a lawsuit. Although COAs, HOAs operate like a business generate revenue, they enjoy non profit status. While property management can be reported, there’s no place to report bad board members. Why? They enjoy volunteer status. It’s these bad volunteer(s) that are the real problems but laws protect them and their conducts. Sometimes they(bad volunteers) lack common sense, may be power hungry, may have ulterior motives, engage in criminal activities of undetected theft but face no consequences. Homeowners face consequences of actions of these bad volunteers. It’s not a level playing field to begin with. One side has the power, the financial means to wreck havoc, the other side(homeowner) has only two options under these circumstances (a) leave (b) accept it as fate and quietly exist. Otherwise, homeowners are powerless being who pay to support the Associations, through property taxes pay to run the states, cities, municipalities, but, is defenseless in protecting its own housing rights, property values without gambling with a costly lawsuit.

This always has been and is the present state of HOAs, COAs. Unless laws become more favorable for homeowners, nothing will ever change. HOAs, COAs, management companies have a general understanding of this and that is why things are falling apart nationwide since there’s no one to enforce accountability on these entities. Homeowners need to realize their own power to make change happen. Sometimes it’s possible at the HOA level if owners unite. But, mostly it’s doable at the state, city and municipality level. If each OP of this forum were to file a complaint with their legislator demanding change to existing housing laws, there might be hope.

LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
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a board made up of a majority of rogue members, or a rogue member and yes men followers can do a lot of damage to a community.

Your board has already labeled you a problem. Unfortunately, most owners will only get involved if they are directly affected in a tangible way.

I went up against a rogue board, it was a nightmare. It took several years to affect change. I was the target of continual attempts to silence and discredit me.

At the end of the day, you must get enough owners to care and be willing to serve on the board. Once you have that, it's a good start.

How transparent are your annual elections? Do you know of other owners who will join you in an effort to remove the rogue board members?
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By LaskaS on 04/15/2023 8:29 PM
a board made up of a majority of rogue members, or a rogue member and yes men followers can do a lot of damage to a community.

Your board has already labeled you a problem. Unfortunately, most owners will only get involved if they are directly affected in a tangible way.

I went up against a rogue board, it was a nightmare. It took several years to affect change. I was the target of continual attempts to silence and discredit me.

At the end of the day, you must get enough owners to care and be willing to serve on the board. Once you have that, it's a good start.

How transparent are your annual elections? Do you know of other owners who will join you in an effort to remove the rogue board members?
Well said. Though from your posts here, I want to add my observation that you studied intensely to make sure your objections had a solid foundation in the covenants, bylaws and state statute. You asked questions here. You took a lot of flack from both an incompetent board and IMO often a not-so-supportive forum. You persisted, always with an eye on the best way to submit requests, objections and demands. This took a willingness to learn; lots of talent; and guts.

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