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DawnJ5 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
State: Florida
We have a woman who lived in the HOA for 17 yrs. She sold her home and moved to a different HOA 4 months ago, but then she was allowed to be nominated and put on the BOD to fill a vacancy just after she sold her home, and was made Vice President. She has no financial interest in the community, and in my opinion I think she wanted on the board to exact some revenge upon some of her former neighbors, some of which she was able to accomplish.

I am trying to determine what voting rights she has. I know she is not a 'voting member' of the association because she owns no home here, so I am thinking she shouldnt be able to vote on amendments and elections, etc. I find nothing in the bylaws stating a homeowner must be a homeowner in the community. I also find nothing in Statute 720. However as a member of the BOD, and VP, she can make motions and it appears vote on issues that affect the homeowners.

She is coming up for reelection, and is actively collecting proxies for our upcoming Annual Meeting, and is specifically asking people to fill her name out so she can vote their proxy (and giving false information about another homeowner who is running for the same BOD spot)

Can anyone point me to how I can determine if we have any recourse to either not allow her to vote those proxies, or if she has a right to be on a BOD where she doesnt own property?

Thank you so much!
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
The association governing documents, (usually the bylaws) should specify the requirements to be on the board. The bylaws originally written by the developer often allow non-members to be directors, and many associations never bother to change that. Assuming yours allow non-members to be directors, opposing candidates and their supporters should be using the same strategy, collecting proxies and letting members know that she is no longer a member.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I like to add this little note... Often a HOA will rewrite their documents AFTER the Developer has left the building. They will write out references to developer and change the "A Party and B party" voting that is associated with the Developer keeping majority. However, a small detail is overlooked either by mistake or intentional. The reference to must be on the title/owner in the HOA. It is usually just one or two sentences kind of buried in the documents.

The reason this exist is many Developers are so large they hire their employees or a PM to handle the Board duties. The employees or hired PM would not be on any titles or owners in the HOA. Plus the owners don't own the HOA yet. This allows the Developer to be flexible when running the HOA.

However, when a HOA takes on the task of eliminating the Developer references and other changes, this can be overlooked. It then becomes a "rule" because it is still in the documents. This may NOT be the case in ALL HOA's in the entire country. State laws apply of course. It is something the HOA can change and in my opinion should if they own the HOA. There are times this is a benefit if the HOA wants their Accountant/PM to act as Treasurer. Otherwise, not sure I want a person without ownership rights to be on my board.

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
With Douglas, if the Bylaws or other governing documents do not state that board members must be owners then she qualifies to serve on the Board. She is not running for one opening against another person. All candidates run for all openings. How many does your HOA have?

Her opponents must also try to collect proxies and alert voters to the fact that she is not an owner and should have NO say in forming policy for your HOA. If it are me, and I have done something similar in the past with others, her opponent(s) should write a short, honest opinion about her status as a non-owner and promote the candidate or candidates who are owners and who have the true best interest of the community at heart.

The letter should not speculate that she has a vendetta or anything else negative--just on her status as a non-owners. TIt should include a couple of positive statements abate th opposing candidate(s). I'd make it on a colorful flyer to deliver to h each home or to send USPS.
DawnJ5 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you Douglas. I compared the original to the second version - the Association 'filed their notice of preservation' at the 30 yr mark and lined out the original stuff from the developer about different classes for voting etc. There is definitely a brigade of neighbors out trying to make it known to those who arent involved in HOA activities what is going on and gathering proxies. Appreciate your input and help
DawnJ5 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you Douglas. I compared the original to the second version - the Association 'filed their notice of preservation' at the 30 yr mark and lined out the original stuff from the developer about different classes for voting etc. There is definitely a brigade of neighbors out trying to make it known to those who arent involved in HOA activities what is going on and gathering proxies. Appreciate your input and help
DawnJ5 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you for the input Kerry. We have 9 slots, and they expire on a rotating basis (3 per year) so there are always some old timers staying on the board when new ones come onto the board. And you are correct, there's 3 spots and more than 3 candidates, however the non-owner is targeting one particular candidate in her 'speeches' to the owners she visits. I had the property mgr describe to me how he was conducting the election process, and it sounds like a fair process. There are now several owners out canvassing to inform what the power of proxies are and collect from those who wish to give one. And the candidate did as you suggested with a letter, and left the negative out. Thanks again for your help.

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