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How should, or should it, an HOA handle - possibly crazy people in subdivision confronting people

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RogerJ1 (Texas)
Posts: 550
Posted:
I did not report the following to the an association because I am not sure it something in which an HOA/POA should be involved. Is it something an HOA should even handle?

Two, possibly mentally disturbed people, one confronting people while displaying anger, in a small neighborhood. One, non confrontational, with the look of a homeless person draping a thick bedspread/comforter over her head as she walks very slowly back and fourth on streets. Second, a man driving around stopping pedestrians and people in their driveways offering them money (to avoid confusion: he does not ask for money - he tries to give money away), and becoming agitated and angry when people refuse his money (he spouts religious stuff, and that "they will not let him have it" in reference to the money as he demands you take his money.) The lady has been doing this for several weeks. The man by isolated incidents over the coarse of one day.

Both people have been linked to the same house, which was recently purchased with new family moving into it.

Should an HOA put out an announcement on something like this (my idea would be something explaining what has happened so people can be alert about both situations), or is it something in which an HOA should not get involved?
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
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As a human being (not HOA rep.) I would call my local public health/Social Services dept...and ask for these 2 issues to be evaluated.
RogerJ1 (Texas)
Posts: 550
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Posted By JackieB4 on 01/24/2023 8:05 AM
As a human being (not HOA rep.) I would call my local public health/Social Services dept...and ask for these 2 issues to be evaluated.

I reported that angry money offeror to the Sherriff department. If I see him doing it again, or hear he has done it again, I will try to contact any human services departments in my area - I did not think about that before.
RogerJ1 (Texas)
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Posted By JackieB4 on 01/24/2023 8:05 AM
As a human being (not HOA rep.) I would call my local public health/Social Services dept...and ask for these 2 issues to be evaluated.

It was very confusing - he introduced himself as being new to the subdivision then drove off to come back to me minutes later saying he forgot to give me something. I figured he was a solicitor - tree cutters, yard cutters etc. often sell their services in similar manners, so I thought he was going to give me a business card and not to be rude, I put out my hand, and he placed a $5 bill in my hand. I was startled and for a split second not sure what to do. Then trying to give it back to him, he got agitated, then angry when I put it under his window-wiper and he started spouting off religious stuff.

Being alert to the possibility of the man doing that might keep a situation from escalating. I told people I know, mainly ones that exercise-walk on the same streets.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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This is not an HOA but police/social issue. You may want to contact the police to ask about options. Ask about any crisis centers maybe available. This may be a social services situation.

It is hard because of mental illness is hard to deal with on many levels. Legally protected in some aspects. Little can do unless they are commiting an actual crime. Solicitation may want to post a no sign to it.

Otherwise best to deal with individual bases until it effects the HOA as a whole.

Former HOA President
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
Roger

I don't know where you are located so . . .

1. Your local police or sheriff's department on the non-emergency number can likely provide you with contact information for a city or county agency which should be of assistance.

2. We are in McKinney, not a small city. I don't know that the city has resources to deal with a situation such as you describe. I would go directly to Collin County for assistance. If you are in Dallas, Houston, or San Antonio, the city probably has an office/agency resource.

3. In the association in which we reside, the Board would consider asking the Association communicator to send a message to everyone describing the circumstances, what action has been taken, and what guidance has been received from the McKinney PD or a Collin County agency, if any. In many situations such as this, it is best if the person involved in the encounter contacts the appropriate agency directly to ensure first person communications as to what has taken place.

4. Finally, please ensure everyone in the Association understands management of such situations is not a responsibility of the HOA, even in a gated community with private streets. The HOA/POA, or condominium, does not have the resources or expertise, this is a societal matter which requires professional assistance.
RogerJ1 (Texas)
Posts: 550
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Update: It just occurred to me that the family could be Adult Foster Care providers. There is a such a program in Texas. I called the department that oversees that program, to see if such providers would be listed and then I could check if the new family is or is not. A lady in that department said that people hosting, up to three adults, are normally unlicensed and therefore, not listed. She said if a family is providing that service, and letting any of the people roam unattended that might be a concern. She gave me a number to call if that turns out to be the situation. I am of course not going to call now as I have no idea if that is the situation, but if the situation continues I guess that would be the department I should contact whether the family is in the program or not.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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If you are dealing with someone who has mental illness, he or she (or they) could be undiagnosed or cycling (the behaviors occur if the person hasn't or refuses to take medication, or the medication needs to be adjusted). Why not contact your local mental health agency and let them know what's going on - they may be able to give you some tips on how to address these people. Generally, if they're not harming you or trespassing on your property, it shouldn't be a problem.

And don't forget about 988, the new crisis and suicide hotline - here's a link where you can get more information. https://www.fcc.gov/988-suicide-and-crisis-lifeline

Once you gather information, why not forward it to the board, suggesting they put together an article for the community website or newsletter (or both) - not to point out this hotline, but to let folks know what steps they might take if they or someone might be in crisis

PS - you do know calling mentally ill people "crazy" is a slur, don't you? We use that word a lot and usually don't mean anything by it, but it helps to be more mindful of who you're talking about when you use it because it could discourage people from getting help. Read this article, then stop and ponder - https://www.nami.org/personal-stories/don-t-call-me-crazy

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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