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GarryR (Virginia)
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We are looking into changing from a Fiscal Year that end of March 31 to a Calendar Year December 31. What are the Pro' and Con's
SheliaH (Indiana)
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We're on a calendar year and it works for us because we don't have to think about the start and end date - they will always be January 1 and December 31.

For you, consider what you like and don't like about fiscal vs.calendar - has it interfered with contracting maintenance work? Have you run into trouble when the dates dall on a holiday or Sunday? You have to make a decision that works for YOUR community, so talk to your property manager and accountant to get their take - it will affect their timeliness in doing what you want them to do.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SheliaH (Indiana)
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We're on a calendar year and it works for us because we don't have to think about the start and end date - they will always be January 1 and December 31.

For you, consider what you like and don't like about fiscal vs.calendar - has it interfered with contracting maintenance work? Have you run into trouble when the dates dall on a holiday or Sunday? You have to make a decision that works for YOUR community, so talk to your property manager and accountant to get their take - it will affect their timeliness in doing what you want them to do.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GarryR (Virginia)
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Our main concern is snow removal an unpredictable expense expense months in February and March. Which are the last two months of our Fiscal year. (Note: Holidays and contacts renewal dates are not an issue for us.)
Any Suggestions on a list of Pro's and Con's items for changing to a calendar Year?
SheliaH (Indiana)
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If you're talking about your budget, you don't put done things on a fiscal year and everything else on a calendar year - do one or the other.

Your snow removal contract is a good reason to switch to a calendar period. We sign our contracts in October or November (the upcoming years budget must be received by homeowners by December 1) January to March are our snow season, and we get the service if 3+ inches have fallen, so by the end of April, we know what we had and if it was below or over budget. That helps with planning for next year because we can look at the last two or three years to look for patterns then plan accordingly, we can also see how our vendor performed and decide if we'll stick around another year or do something else.

Considering when you receive services can also be a factor. Usually there isn't a lot going on in the beginning or end of the year - most of the outdoor work like lawn cars will happen between April and September, so you might be able to adjust your fiscal year accordingly if you want to stick with it.

Oh, and don't forget taxes - that due date will usually be April 15th and so it may be best to go with a calendar year so you can prepare your returns on time

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
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Posted By GarryR on 01/20/2023 9:48 AM
We are looking into changing from a Fiscal Year that end of March 31 to a Calendar Year December 31. What are the Pro' and Con's

If you hold elections at the end of your fiscal year you will need to make plans to figure out how to adjust to a calendar year. For example if terms expire in March do you extend them until January 1rst so that you can get everything back in synch? If you don't some elections will be in March and some in January.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
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The only "con" I'd see to switching to a budget based on a calendar is that snow and ice budget. There's a chance, during that first year, that you throw your budget a bit off. However, if you must set a large amount aside for snow and ice - and the need never arises to fund removal - your budget (and Reserves) receive a legitimate and nice "bonus" that can be saved, or rolled over for the next year.

It depends on your budgeting philosophy.
GarryR (Virginia)
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Corporate taxes are due March !5 not April 15. This could result in a crunch time impact on accounting services for taxes and year end financials.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By GarryR on 01/23/2023 12:46 PM
Corporate taxes are due March !5 not April 15. This could result in a crunch time impact on accounting services for taxes and year end financials.

Gary,

I was treasurer of my previous association, which was located in Fairfax County VA.
We were on calendar year and taxes were not an issue.

We filed IRS form 1120-H which I completed in Jan.
We then filed VA 500-ez which was done online. easily completed at the same time, as you simply enter in information you used on form 1120-H.

Here is a link to the VA form: VA Tax form 500-EZ

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