KathyE5 (Missouri)
Posts: 34
Posts: 34
Posted:
Hi, all!
I have been president of our HOA for close to 10 years now; I served as secretary for 10 years prior to my presidency. We have a fantastic community and I can truthfully say none of our homeowners has ever had a serious issue or complaint with the way I and our board conduct our business. That is, until now. And it really isn't a complaint, per se; it is more of an insurrection. T
Our HOA has existed for over 30 years. We have a lengthy list of bylaws and covenants arrived at through the years by our HOA attorneys and also board mem bers who were attorneys. We have never had a problem enforcing any restriction at all, which is why what is happening is so troubling and strange to me and the other board members: we have a new resident (2 years here), a part-timer, who is completely impressed with himself and his capabilities. To date, we have had no problems with him but that changed this past Friday. He originally introduced himself by saying he would be willing to become president, which sort of floored me. Well, as you all know, a part-time president is not a good thing. But, I guess he has been champing at the hypothetical bit trying to get a piece of our HOA's 'action,' (which is worrisome because we have a lot of money in our accounts). (If I were smart, I would let him be president but I live here, too, and I like keeping an eye on things and taking care of issues the moment that they raise their sometimes ugly heads).
So, this guy and his wife informed me on Friday that they were forming a 'design committee' in response to the news that three lots in our development were being sold and closed upon on Jan. 23. They TOLD me this; didn't ask me if I could make it. This, of course, is an unofficial committee. They were first going to meet yesterday but delayed that until today. I did not go; yesterday was my husband's birthday; today was Mass. Plus, I have spent more than 10 hours during the past week taking care of business that concerns these three lots, the sale, and the builder. Needless, to say, the news of this 'committee' has brought the one crazy that we have in our development out of the woodwork with all sorts of bizarre questions, like where will their sewage go (the three new homes); we have central sewer lines and a sewage treatment plant so, I mean, d'uh, right? LOL
They are now going through each of our restrictions with an eye toward 'tightening them up' or 'changing them.' I think I speak for us all when I say this is no small endeavor. Each change will have to be submitted to our lawyers, then voted upon, notarized, and recorded. I did not sign on for such a comprehensive review and wholesale changing of our bylaws. In fact, at our annual POA meeting in 2021 I actually submitted this idea to the entire membership and it was voted down unanimously.
Not only will this be time-consuming -- FOR ME -- but it will be very pricey.
I have already told them that they may submit their wish list to me and that I and the board will review it and get back with them. If they have any good ideas, of course, I will discuss them with our attorneys. But with the sale looming I am already up to my ears in alligators trying to get an amendment agreed upon regarding minimum square footage allowed for each new house to be built here AND a 'no rental' amendment. Plus, I have to get the county out here to look over the proposed new roadway so that the development isn't on the hook for either building or maintaining the new access road and cul de sac.
As for their rogue 'design' board, it already takes all four board members to approve any new blueprints, materials of construction, exterior designs, aspect (how the home will sit on the lot), colors, roofs, just about everything; our restrictions are very comprehensive. Plus, when they came up with this design board idea I pre-emptively enlisted two of our great neighbors, who each have a great eye for color and design and who, rather fortuitously, are building contractors, to serve as board consultants. I can't think of anything else that I should be doing. I should add, of course, that all blueprints of proposed homes are available to any property owners who would want to look at them. We are open to any and all suggestions from our property owners, too; that doesn't mean we will take them but we will entertain them and, if they are good suggestions, of course we will pass them on to the builder.
Have any of you ever had rogue members? If so, how do you handle them?
And when I sort of protested, saying, why do we need this? We have never had a problem, the rogue's wife said I was being 'emotional.' Believe me, I am not an emotional person; I think she was projecting because I wouldn't go to her meeting on such short notice. Besides, should any meeting like that have gone through the board first?
I actually feel a bit insulted by this -- and so do the other board members. I have never once had a complaint from any property owner, through my entire presidency, and now it seems that they feel that my board and I are simply too incompetent to look over and approve building plans. And I was an engineer!! LOL!
Thanks in advance for your help and advice. I mean, I rarely have needed your help before and here I am, twice in a few days. Go figure, right?
Kathy
Kathy
I have been president of our HOA for close to 10 years now; I served as secretary for 10 years prior to my presidency. We have a fantastic community and I can truthfully say none of our homeowners has ever had a serious issue or complaint with the way I and our board conduct our business. That is, until now. And it really isn't a complaint, per se; it is more of an insurrection. T
Our HOA has existed for over 30 years. We have a lengthy list of bylaws and covenants arrived at through the years by our HOA attorneys and also board mem bers who were attorneys. We have never had a problem enforcing any restriction at all, which is why what is happening is so troubling and strange to me and the other board members: we have a new resident (2 years here), a part-timer, who is completely impressed with himself and his capabilities. To date, we have had no problems with him but that changed this past Friday. He originally introduced himself by saying he would be willing to become president, which sort of floored me. Well, as you all know, a part-time president is not a good thing. But, I guess he has been champing at the hypothetical bit trying to get a piece of our HOA's 'action,' (which is worrisome because we have a lot of money in our accounts). (If I were smart, I would let him be president but I live here, too, and I like keeping an eye on things and taking care of issues the moment that they raise their sometimes ugly heads).
So, this guy and his wife informed me on Friday that they were forming a 'design committee' in response to the news that three lots in our development were being sold and closed upon on Jan. 23. They TOLD me this; didn't ask me if I could make it. This, of course, is an unofficial committee. They were first going to meet yesterday but delayed that until today. I did not go; yesterday was my husband's birthday; today was Mass. Plus, I have spent more than 10 hours during the past week taking care of business that concerns these three lots, the sale, and the builder. Needless, to say, the news of this 'committee' has brought the one crazy that we have in our development out of the woodwork with all sorts of bizarre questions, like where will their sewage go (the three new homes); we have central sewer lines and a sewage treatment plant so, I mean, d'uh, right? LOL
They are now going through each of our restrictions with an eye toward 'tightening them up' or 'changing them.' I think I speak for us all when I say this is no small endeavor. Each change will have to be submitted to our lawyers, then voted upon, notarized, and recorded. I did not sign on for such a comprehensive review and wholesale changing of our bylaws. In fact, at our annual POA meeting in 2021 I actually submitted this idea to the entire membership and it was voted down unanimously.
Not only will this be time-consuming -- FOR ME -- but it will be very pricey.
I have already told them that they may submit their wish list to me and that I and the board will review it and get back with them. If they have any good ideas, of course, I will discuss them with our attorneys. But with the sale looming I am already up to my ears in alligators trying to get an amendment agreed upon regarding minimum square footage allowed for each new house to be built here AND a 'no rental' amendment. Plus, I have to get the county out here to look over the proposed new roadway so that the development isn't on the hook for either building or maintaining the new access road and cul de sac.
As for their rogue 'design' board, it already takes all four board members to approve any new blueprints, materials of construction, exterior designs, aspect (how the home will sit on the lot), colors, roofs, just about everything; our restrictions are very comprehensive. Plus, when they came up with this design board idea I pre-emptively enlisted two of our great neighbors, who each have a great eye for color and design and who, rather fortuitously, are building contractors, to serve as board consultants. I can't think of anything else that I should be doing. I should add, of course, that all blueprints of proposed homes are available to any property owners who would want to look at them. We are open to any and all suggestions from our property owners, too; that doesn't mean we will take them but we will entertain them and, if they are good suggestions, of course we will pass them on to the builder.
Have any of you ever had rogue members? If so, how do you handle them?
And when I sort of protested, saying, why do we need this? We have never had a problem, the rogue's wife said I was being 'emotional.' Believe me, I am not an emotional person; I think she was projecting because I wouldn't go to her meeting on such short notice. Besides, should any meeting like that have gone through the board first?
I actually feel a bit insulted by this -- and so do the other board members. I have never once had a complaint from any property owner, through my entire presidency, and now it seems that they feel that my board and I are simply too incompetent to look over and approve building plans. And I was an engineer!! LOL!
Thanks in advance for your help and advice. I mean, I rarely have needed your help before and here I am, twice in a few days. Go figure, right?
Kathy
Kathy