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TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
Posted:
Texas Trista here!

Happy New Year! We are having our election, again, because we did not meet quorum in November. Any Texas people know how this is supposed to work? I've looked at all our dedicatory instruments and Texas law and I don't find anything on what to do when you have to have a second election. Is it treated just the same as last time? It's in 10 days and we have no info yet as to who to vote for, etc...
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
i would double check. almost all docs i've read state who elections are to be read and what is done without quorum. if not best to assume to run it just like first election procedures.

vis ta vie
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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I would read your documents on elections and on how to handle them. You may find the information in your Articles of Incorporation and CC&R's. Most answers you need are already to be found in your documents...

Also if it's done "wrong" I guarantee anyone who didn't get elected or those who protest the election will also feel free to input how the process should work... Good luck... Our HOA if you raised your hand attending a meeting you got on the board. We didn't have alot of people interested in running...

Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Trista

First of all typically when a Quorum cannot be reached no business (including an election) can be done and the existing BOD Members stay in place until the next Annual Meeting election. Some Bylaws allow for the Annual Meeting to be adjourned and a later date set (typically 30 days) to reconvene with a lesser Quorum needed. In many case 50% less. When this is done all election rules/procedures must be adhered to.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Others make sense. What kind of notification did you get about this new election? US mail? Email? Were any ballots with it? WHO sent it? WHAT does it say?

Most likely the procedure is in your TX statutes.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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If a membership is properly adjourned, the only notice required is at the meeting.

To the OP, were there people to vote for at the first meeting?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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If the "only notice required is at the meeting," Max, how do members (owners) know that there IS a meeting?
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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Posted By KerryL1 on 01/02/2023 10:01 AM
If the "only notice required is at the meeting," Max, how do members (owners) know that there IS a meeting?

Look it up under Corporation Code and also Roberts Rule of Order, as membership meetings are run under a set of parliamentary procedures.
TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
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We have not received anything about the new election. We adjourned the non-annual meeting be/c we didn't meet quorum. Our By-laws state we don't even have to give notice of the annual meeting yet to meet quorum we need 51 percent of the members vote for the election. Really makes no sense to me. I think I've attached our by-laws. If anyone has time to explain to me what I'm missing, I'd be very appreciative.
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TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
Posted:
we did not meet quorum. out of 84 units, we had I think 20 votes.
TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
Posted:
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Posted By WendyM5 on 01/02/2023 8:08 AM
i would double check. almost all docs i've read state who elections are to be read and what is done without quorum. if not best to assume to run it just like first election procedures.

I've read our documents ad nauseam.
TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
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Posted By KerryL1 on 01/02/2023 10:01 AM
If the "only notice required is at the meeting," Max, how do members (owners) know that there IS a meeting?

Right?! It's so backwards!
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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I think what Max is trying to say is that at the event where quorum was not met, it was motioned and decided to adjourn and meet again on xx date/time. This WAS the noticed about the adjourned meeting. This motion may have specified a reduced quorum.

To me, an owner-friendly board and/or PM would a have then sent all owners the info.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By TristaJ on 01/02/2023 10:31 AM
We have not received anything about the new election. We adjourned the non-annual meeting be/c we didn't meet quorum. Our By-laws state we don't even have to give notice of the annual meeting yet to meet quorum we need 51 percent of the members vote for the election.
Texas statute BO 22 applies to your HOA and requires notice for any meeting of the owners. Your bylaws are clear that at a meeting where quorum is not met, the members present (even though not a quorum) may vote to "adjourn" (meaning effectively "postpone") the meeting

Please understand that "adjourned meeting" does not mean what many people think. The "adjourned meeting" is the meeting of the owners that happens after the first attempt to achieve quorum fails and those members present vote to adjourn (meaning "delay") the meeting. (Don't even try to explain what "adjourning" and "adjourned meeting" means to owners. You can google and confirm that an "adjourned meeting" is as I wrote. Just announce a new annual meeting because quorum was not met at the first attempt at an annual meeting. Give notice as your Bylaws and BO 22 require.

Your bylaws have this verbiage:

"Those members holding a majority of all the votes of the
members present in person or by proxy, may also adjourn any
annual or special meeting from time to time without notice,
other than by announcement at the meeting, until the
transaction of any and all business submitted or proposed to be
submitted to such meeting or any adjournment or adjournments
thereof shall hove been completed."

The "without notice" part does not mean the subsequent meeting should not be noticed. In other words, just because the bylaws say the meeting //may// be adjourned without notice does not mean notice is prohibited. Notice is not prohibited. The subsequent meeting should be noticed, per BO 22.

At the first attempt to have the annual meeting, like Max is saying, someone should have properly motioned to adjourn the meeting, explaining that this means they were asking for the meeting to be postponed, all in an effort to achieve quorum. But if they did not, then I would not worry about it. Just re-do the meeting.

If possible under your bylaws, consider absentee ballots.

Some people read TPC 209 to be saying that the HOA has to allow absentee ballots, regardless of what the bylaws say. If your board wants to try absentee ballots, quote the section of TPC 209 to the board and go for it.
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
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Trista, I've lost track--

Is your association a Texas Property Code Section 209 Homeowners Association or a Texas Property Code Chapter 81 or Chapter 82 Condominium Association?

Also, when was your association formed?
TristaJ (Texas)
Posts: 96
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Posted By BillH10 on 01/02/2023 1:23 PM
Trista, I've lost track--

Is your association a Texas Property Code Section 209 Homeowners Association or a Texas Property Code Chapter 81 or Chapter 82 Condominium Association?

Also, when was your association formed?

Hi Bill,

We are TPC 209. We were formed in 1978.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Trista,
I Think John's comments below are what I remember happening the one time that this issue arose in my Ca. HOA.

First of all typically when a Quorum cannot be reached no business (including an election) can be done and the existing BOD Members stay in place until the next Annual Meeting election. Some Bylaws allow for the Annual Meeting to be adjourned and a later date set (typically 30 days) to reconvene with a lesser Quorum needed. In many case 50% less. When this is done all election rules/procedures must be adhered to.

Also, nothing changes with the votes that have already been cast and no new election need to be started. All you need is to schedule a new meeting and get the quorum done so that the election can be completed. The Texas board I am currently on lower the quorum requirements for our HOA the year before I was elected. You should look into that so that this does not happen every year.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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One of the first things our BOD did a turnover was hold a vote to lower Quorum from 51% to 20%. Some say no Quorum is they way to go. I say 20% is a happy medium.

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