MANAGEMENT COMPANY/PROPERTY mANAGER

In sc, is THERE ANY SUCH THING AS sunshine law? i.e.where THE board CANNOT MEET anytime they want to WITHOUT NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS?
also, IF YOU HAVE A property management company, can THE board hire a person to do maintenance, give violations to residents, answer all questions to residents so they don't have to go to management Company. It seems as if the board has two Property Managers. The first is getting paid and the board has paid the second person plus insurance and 401K.

While I know that. I guess I didn't phrase it correctly. The board hired a "property Manager" for a very handsome salary, plus benefits ( prior President) in addition, they already have a property management company. This paid by the residents property manager does the work of the management company. My question is, what is the management company doing other than financials to earn their money.It just feels as if, we are paying almost 100K to a second property manager who is doing the work of the initial Management company. Does that make sense?

throuhg my 20+ years of living in HOA land, I've found the only way to get a board to save money is by becoming a board member. And being a board member is a time suck which might make you earn less money. only you can know if the trade off is worth it.

I know about the sunshine laws in Florida, I am talking about SC. In your case, who hired the property manager, is there a contract on them and if so, who did the job description. I am curious if they are doing the same work that the original management company was hired to do.

Sunshine laws apply to public officials not to an association's Board of Directors. In SC there are no rules/laws on notifying owners when a BOD Meeting takes place. That said, owners can attend BOD Meetings. Just ask when it is and attend. There will be some limits on what you can do when you attend such as when you can speak.

While you may be able to view a management contract, I doubt you will be able to view an employee contract.

I agree the employee contract is private, but one could ask what are the duties of the PM

If the board hired the second property manager, it would have to be approved and there would be minutes to back this up. There isn't any.
The Property Manager was the President and he negotiated the contract himself with no member of the Board approving it.
Property Manager wants to run the Board, do the Agenda, minutes, Budget. After he does it all, he puts it on the agenda.
This is an all new Board with no member ever being on a board before.
Just want to make sure the property manager doesn't get screwed from the Management Company. He has no contract with them.

If your "new" PM is an employee of the MC, your should be able to view the contract with the MC. JohnC should know if that's permitted in SC.

It is normal for a property manager to write the agenda (with input from the board), do the budget (with input from the board) and do the minutes of a meeting. Ours sits in every board meeting and takes the minutes and provides an update to the homeowners.

You are right - if they hired the PM outside the management contract then there should be something in the minutes that the board approved the PM's contract. Are you sure the PM doesn't work for the management company?

Our yearly budget shows the gross amount we pay our PM, admin and maintenance person including their benefits. So we do not disclose detailed salary info, just the gross amount.

I'm still confused as to what you are looking for. Do you object that there is a PM? Do you think you shouldn't have a management company? You still haven't provided any details for the size of your HOA. To pay a PM $100,000 for a small HOA may be too much, but if it's a larger HOA with lots of amenities may be worth it.