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MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It looks like my neighbor is doing it AGAIN! He is growing green grass in the dormant Bermuda grass! OMG! Please for the love of everything holy READ how to take care of Bermuda grass!

This neighbor has broken so many HOA rules. Parking illegally, putting up a fence without permission, not staining said fence, and keeps growing Fescue grass in cold weather!

I just had to vent ... I posted in our community page the proper care of Bermuda to drop a hint on NOT doing any overseeing. The grass is DORMANT for winter. Do NOT touch it!

His grass came back this year so bad and nappy. It had bare spots and looked bad. Plus that grass is on my property line! You can see it from all angles of the street

Not sure what to do. Our property manager is an idiot. Would not understand the complaint. At this point not even sure they are fining them or taking any actions. It seems they are getting away with everything. Including building a patio in backyard.

Okay Venting done for now... Otherwise I may just put down a weed killer barrier between our houses ..

Former HOA President
RogerJ1 (Texas)
Posts: 550
Posted:
I entertain your peeve also. People are nuts with over-watering in my neighborhood. Some water every single day, which even in a drought, one should not do. Also, being bad for the lawn is not the main problem; over watering kills trees. It rots many tree's roots. My subdivision has 100+ year old oak trees. The over-waterers have killed some. First the tree looks bad, then you see the mushrooms - likely sprouting from the decaying roots that surfaced because of the constant surface water, and then dead canopies.

One family has around seven magnolia trees in his yards. Six are in flower beds, with bushes and mulches touching their trunks - big no-no, and the family waters all the time in addition. One of their magnolia trees has no flower bed nor mulch around it, and is planted on a slope. It looks good, with full lush green, thick leaves. The other six have canopies that look like a dog with manage - small, browning, scraggly leaves with thin overall coverage. Also his six mangy looking ones just started sprouting blooms. The varietal they have, bloom in Spring. Blooming now is caused by the mangy canopy letting sunlight onto the limbs causing them to bloom. It looks like the person would realize the difference between the six mangy ones and the nice looking one. Instead, they probably think the six bad ones need more water.

Another neighbor told me her next door neighbor waters the lawn every night starting around 11:00pm and the sprinklers run until mid morning.

Some of the overwaters have clouds of small gnats swarming along the ditches that front their yards. I am afraid the Association will employ fumigators instead of asking the people to quit watering.

Sentencing might be coming soon. I have noticed the wild pigs are returning - two dead in front of my house from vehicle hits, slight rooting in my yard, and feces under some oak trees. Ten years ago, they came, and my yard was hit first because of location. Since I do not over-water, they did minimal damage, but a few weeks later as they went deeper into the subdivision, they devastated the over-water yards. Our yards are 2 to 3 acres, and some of the over-watered yards were left with no grass in non-fenced areas - the front yards looked like freshly, tractor tiled plots on farmyard with all the grass piled up. Over-watering causing worms to surface, which is a favorite food for pigs, so they run through the yards, plowing the wet soil and grass, eating worms. It will be funny if history repeats.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The biggest issue is that the entire neighborhood got terrible sod laid. We had army worm invasion last year. That killed a lot of the grass or prevented from taking root.

The developers would leave the water running on the new sod for days on end sometimes. If not, then in worst time of day. It also was not properly rolled. Many of my neighbors and myself have grass "holes" because laid on gravel.

So I understand wanting to do an OVERSEED approach last year. Which still was not the right solution but grass was garbage. This year should have learned a few lessons.

I am not a grass expert or practioiner by any means. I just know enough to keep the grass alive and with little weed invasion

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WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Totally agree my neighbor has dandelions and the seeds blow right onto my yard!!!! And when I use weed and feed he says that's bad for his dandelliosn. Grrrrr! Good thing I'm on the board and we don't let people get away with crap like this! After the letter with threat of fines sent no more issues. Oh and he painted his mail box without an arc!!!!

vis ta vie
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
We had an identical issue. One owner over seeded with winter rye. But first let, me explain the HOA does all landscaping. Our landscapers stop mowing in November as our grass has gone dormant. The owner was mowing it himself over the winter. We received several complaints about the lawn not looking like all others. I know the owner and explained to him in our Covenants is the expression "maintain a common look" thus we bar any landscape changes with out permission. The owner agreed he was wrong and asked what should we do about it? I said just to "protect" us, we will send you a polite Email (not a violation) informing you of the issue and you will respond to the BOD with a Email agreeing not to do it again. He said fine. When asked about it by one of the complainers I said it is being handled and he will never do it again.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 858
Posted:
Either move, since you do not have a Board or a manager that will do their job or stay and just put up with it. You can also run for the Board.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I can't run for the board because we are developer controlled and owned. Not going to move because of it. Just need to get this neighbor to realize they are in an HOA and stop being an "Eggplant" about it. Mind you the neighbors on my other side have violated a few rules as well. However, they have been working with the HOA and us neighbors on a few of their issues. (Parking, staining fence, garbage cans etc..) They are a young couple who never lived in a HOA before.

Believe it or not I can overlook many "newbie" failures to understand HOA living. Dealt with it a lot when was President. However, at this point it's been over a year. This is the second year of the grass planting and not staining the fence. Plus noticed they built an addition in the back yard with string lights. Have no idea if that was approved or not.

Update - I did end up sending an email to the PM asking if it is approved process to use "overseeding". That is the extent wanted to go. As overseeding isn't unnecessarily a "bad" thing. It just stands out like a sore thumb. Plus it's not really a healthy way to solve Bermuda Grass issues in the winter. Plus the grass is popping up through my side of the fence which means I now have to weed eat in the winter!

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WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
Do the docs state Bermuda is only type of grass allowed?

vis ta vie
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By WendyM5 on 11/05/2022 9:42 PM
Do the docs state Bermuda is only type of grass allowed?

In Melissa's case, the developer/declarant is still in control so the docs become almost useless.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
FWIW I can't tell the difference between Bermuda or Kentucky Bluegrass. Whats the beef?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The difference is that it has a cycle. It greens up in the Summer months and it goes dormant (brown) in winter. It's a thicker grass. They use "Zoysia" on golf courses. Which Bermuda is in the same family but Zoysia is a thinner blade. You can tell the difference between grasses once you see it. Fescue is another popular grass as well. Which is what I suspect he is using or a rye grass. Rye grasses have a short growing period.

All I know is that ALL the lawns in my neighborhood is in the dormant stage and a light brown. His is a BRIGHT green with the property lines. Also did not ask anyone if that was okay to do. Just did it. Just like he did putting up the fence when I had permission already. Didn't even ask the HOA... Now the green grass sticks out of it like a woman bikini bottom when haven't bikini waxed...

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JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MelissaP1 on 11/06/2022 3:41 PM
The difference is that it has a cycle. It greens up in the Summer months and it goes dormant (brown) in winter. It's a thicker grass. They use "Zoysia" on golf courses. Which Bermuda is in the same family but Zoysia is a thinner blade. You can tell the difference between grasses once you see it. Fescue is another popular grass as well. Which is what I suspect he is using or a rye grass. Rye grasses have a short growing period.

All I know is that ALL the lawns in my neighborhood is in the dormant stage and a light brown. His is a BRIGHT green with the property lines. Also did not ask anyone if that was okay to do. Just did it. Just like he did putting up the fence when I had permission already. Didn't even ask the HOA... Now the green grass sticks out of it like a woman bikini bottom when haven't bikini waxed...

Good for him. Winter is dreary and splash of green sounds good to me.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Let me paint you a picture... It is like your neighbor spray painted their lawn green, Now would like that? Especially if it's a line down your property line? People ask "Are you the one that lives next to the bright green yard? What is that about?".

Former HOA President
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MelissaP1 on 11/06/2022 3:56 PM
Let me paint you a picture... It is like your neighbor spray painted their lawn green, Now would like that? Especially if it's a line down your property line? People ask "Are you the one that lives next to the bright green yard? What is that about?".

That actually is a treatment for grass from planting to filling in the bald spots, along with aerating the lawn. I really don't see an issue. Is there a covenant that says you need to use a specific grass type?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
He is not doing patches. He is doing whole yard. The purpose of a HOA is keeping consistency. How is this consistent if no one does it?

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