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StacyM5 (Maryland)
Posts: 59
Posted:
My HOA is in Maryland and the Board just called two special meetings of the Association. The first one next week to nominatee new Board members and the second special meeting in December to vote on the new Board members.

I noticed that they are violating the following three areas of our Bylaws with this election:

1. The #1 person on the Nominating Committee is not a member of our Association. He lives in the next neighborhood over from us and does not own any property in our neighborhood. Our Bylaws clearly state that members of the Nominating Committee must be members of our association.

2. Our Bylaws clearly state that nominations for elections must be held out our Spring meeting.

3. Our Bylaws clearly state that elections of new officers must take place at the Spring meeting.

Am I being nitpicky with details or am I correct that it is important and we she follow our Bylaws to the record?

I pointed this out the inconsistencies to our HOA President in an email and she is ignoring me. She basically stopped communicating with me because in the past month I have had to force her to comply with a few other issues by contacting the Postmaster or the Attorney General's Office.

On my last Board, I always followed the governing documents and state laws completely so that I would be in total compliance. It is very frustrating for me that our Board has beening doing everything wrong like:

*hiring a resident and a relative (both uninsured) to cut our common area grass
*not purchasing insurance for the common areas
*not attempting to collect dues from over 20% of our residents
*not allowing us to examine the financial records
*illegally going into our mailboxes to distribute materials
*not enforcing the rules at all
*letting her little kids ride illegal dirt bikes on our uninsured common areas

Seems like we don't have an HOA at all. They are not doing a single thing to keep our neighborhood nice, but instead creating a lot of liability for all of us in the Assoication. Most of the people in the neighborhood just don't care and are totally uninvolved and don't even pay dues. Only a few people care enough but are too busy with work to have the time to get involved in making things better. I feel like I am practically in this alone and keep addressing each issue as they come up but this is getting to be a full-time job because the Board wants to do whatever they want and is unaware or just doesn't care to follow any laws.

Any advice for me?

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Stacy

Based on what you say it seems your HOA does not precisely follow the Bylaws concerning BOD nominations and when voting takes place but overall they do are not doing anything major incorrectly. Based on other things you say in your post , I do not think you will ever be happy with the present President of the BOD nor the way your association operates.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Stacy

Do your Bylaws allow BOD nominations from the floor? If they do, then nomination committees are not needed. Many associations do not use nominating committees even when their Bylaws call for such.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Stacy,

What I'm reading is that you like your home.
Having served on a Board previously, you see the areas that need to be improved - many operationally.
You have tried, or accomplished, correcting issues in the past, to the point that the board sees you as a complainer vs. trying to assist.

Realistically, I see two options:

1) Gather like minded individuals together and replace the board with you and the other like minded individuals.

2) Look for a new home.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I'm afraid that Tim is right. It's almost impossible to change out an ignorant and/or arrogant board without a lot of support from fellow owners.

(I disagree with JohnC's opinion that it's OK to ignore Bylaws. If Nominating Committees are required, then use them. Our old bylaws did require them and nominations from the floor. Our new bylaws eliminated both.)
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
Posted:
Are they nominating new board members for the community to vote on or are the appointing candidates for open spots outside of the normal election cycle? That makes a difference.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
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Posted By KerryL1 on 11/01/2022 12:45 PM
I'm afraid that Tim is right. It's almost impossible to change out an ignorant and/or arrogant board without a lot of support from fellow owners.

(I disagree with JohnC's opinion that it's OK to ignore Bylaws. If Nominating Committees are required, then use them. Our old bylaws did require them and nominations from the floor. Our new bylaws eliminated both.)

I say when Bylaws allow nominations from the floor then nominating committees are not needed.
StacyM5 (Maryland)
Posts: 59
Posted:
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Posted By JohnC46 on 11/01/2022 11:15 AM
Stacy

Do your Bylaws allow BOD nominations from the floor? If they do, then nomination committees are not needed. Many associations do not use nominating committees even when their Bylaws call for such.

Our Bylaws are very poorly written and only 4 pages long with no mention of nominations from the floor. It only states:

"At the Winter meeting, the BOard of Officers shall appoint a Nominating Committee which consists of three members of the Association whose duty shall be nomination of candidates for election. The Slate of Officers will be presented at the Spring meeting."

Our President did send out a ballot along with the notice of the Special meeting for next week so that people could step up and challenge current Board members for their seat. Our problem is that most people do not want to get involved or, like in my case, I would step up but we don't have any indemnification provision in our governing documents so I an understandably concerned about my personal liability for lawsuits.
StacyM5 (Maryland)
Posts: 59
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 11/01/2022 12:15 PM
Stacy,

What I'm reading is that you like your home.
Having served on a Board previously, you see the areas that need to be improved - many operationally.
You have tried, or accomplished, correcting issues in the past, to the point that the board sees you as a complainer vs. trying to assist.

Realistically, I see two options:

1) Gather like minded individuals together and replace the board with you and the other like minded individuals.

2) Look for a new home.

Yes you are correct, I do love my home.

I have been trying to gather like minded individuals and a lot of them still work so they are reluctant to get on the Board and have to take on a lot work. Some are warming to the idea so I am still trying to gather people because their are quite a few that are not happy with how things are being done.

My husband and I have also talked about moving if things don't improve.
StacyM5 (Maryland)
Posts: 59
Posted:
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Posted By LoriM15 on 11/01/2022 1:39 PM
Are they nominating new board members for the community to vote on or are the appointing candidates for open spots outside of the normal election cycle? That makes a difference.

The way our Bylaws are written, it doesn't matter if it is an open spot or not. This is what the Bylaws states:

"Vacancies of any office shall be filled by appointment by the remaining Board Members and the appointee will hold office for the remainder of the unexpired term."

They don't say if any positions are currently vacant but I believe that the 2nd Vice President did resign a few months ago when he discovered that the Board didn't carry any D&O insurance so he was scared of being personally sued and quit.

I believe they just want people to apply and send in their ballot to the Nominating Committee so that they can run against the current Board members.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Stacy,

When I saw issues in my Virginia Associations, it took me three years to educate the membership enough to have changes occur.
When I was elected to the board, I received my education that things are typically different looking out vs. looking in.

I'm proud of the accomplishments I was able to bring about (with assistance from other board members).
I know I left the Association better then when I was on it and made it easier for those that followed (if they took the time to read what was left behind).

So, keep in mind that it can take time to make changes.
Until then, offer to volunteer for things. This shows you aren't simply complaining but offering to bring about the changes that you see are needed.
StacyM5 (Maryland)
Posts: 59
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 11/01/2022 2:37 PM
Stacy,

When I saw issues in my Virginia Associations, it took me three years to educate the membership enough to have changes occur.
When I was elected to the board, I received my education that things are typically different looking out vs. looking in.

I'm proud of the accomplishments I was able to bring about (with assistance from other board members).
I know I left the Association better then when I was on it and made it easier for those that followed (if they took the time to read what was left behind).

So, keep in mind that it can take time to make changes.
Until then, offer to volunteer for things. This shows you aren't simply complaining but offering to bring about the changes that you see are needed.

This is the first time in an HOA for many residents of my neighborhood. They don't understand how any of it works so I have trying to educate them since I have had experience on my previous HOA so I learned so much from that experience.

I have been trying to assist the Board with some ideas on how to generate money from capital contrabutions for our reserves since they are not currently collecting any money for it. The President was receptive at the meeting and said she didn't know what a capital contribution was, so she wanted to speak to me further about it but has yet to meet with me. The President is throwing around the idea of a management company so I do plan on volunteering to be on a selection committee for that if they have one thought the President has a friend she wants to hire that is a property manager so she may not give a choice to us.

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