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DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131
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After two years of complaints, officers/security visiting & getting the HOA committee involved, the crappy upstairs neighbor moved Friday. And it happened so quickly. Last week, I saw the landlord visit with a woman & her young daughter, they were upstairs looking around for about 15 min while the neighbor was on her ā€œbestā€ behavior. I saw the neighbor the week before go up there with moving boxes but didn’t think much of it until I saw the landlord visit with those two potential tenants, who are now in fact my new neighbors. The infamous neighbor clearly wasn’t evicted but people I talked to were under the impression that the landlord didn’t want to renew her lease bc of all the ruckus she’s caused. The HOA office confirmed with me her lease was scheduled to renew end of this month but didn’t know she was actually moving. When I checked my camera Friday morning while I wasn’t home, I saw a moving truck & she flipped my camera for the last time that morning. When I came back home that evening, she was getting rid of the last of her things & her last time over was yesterday morning when she dropped off her keys. The mother that now moved in has a young daughter around 8 maybe & yes I plan to move. My goal was to make sure the ghetto neighbor was gone & I was the last one standing. Lockbox is on my door as of this morning & listing goes live tomorrow. Lesson learnt, I will never live below someone again. Just a follow up after years of this, I just can’t wait to get a glimpse of the comments, especially those that hated on me all this time.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Danielle,

I wish you luck in your new home.

Tim
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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I'm happy for you, but personally, I don't think anyone hated on you (we don't know you). You asked for opinions and got them, along with suggestions, all of which you could choose to use, ignore or consider some and skip the others. Instead, you seemed to make it personal. This isn't an amen corner where people will automatically agree with you - after all, we don't live in your community and never heard the neighbor's side or the HOA's side, for that matter. Consider that the next time you ask for advice on anything.

Anyway, if you're moving, I also wish you the best of luck - but I still think you may be better off in a detached unit and not have to worry about upstairs, downstairs, or next door.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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"My goal was to make sure the ghetto neighbor was gone & I was the last one standing."

This statement says it all.
AugustinD
Posts: 1,027
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DanielleB4, thank you for the update. You have done a service on a few levels to others who might have this person as a neighbor. Shoot, you might have even done the former neighbor a service, if the former neighbor has learned the importance of quiet when folks have to live in close quarters.

I recall many comments attacking Danielle and in inappropriate ways. I am not saying Danielle has been perfect in all this. But I felt many posters here ignored the strong signs of Danielle's neighbor being the nuisance. Many simply joined a pile-on instead of being constructive.

AFAIC TimB4 has been a great anchor for keeping things civil and being constructive.

DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131
Posted:
There’s a difference with someone giving insight versus just being condescending & mocking my situation. There was cyberbullying from some (most users), even the most recent commenter agrees
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
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awesome! you were the last one standing. good luck in your new place. as for this forum, best thing to do is just log off, no ones gonna apologize IMHO. and yes i agree, never live below someone.

vis ta vie
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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Posted By DanielleG4 on 10/03/2022 7:47 PM
There’s a difference with someone giving insight versus just being condescending & mocking my situation. There was cyberbullying from some (most users), even the most recent commenter agrees

While some may disagree, the posters that came down hard on you, including me, did so because of some of your disgusting comments posted here and on reddit. You openly sought revenge and your need to retaliate did nothing but make the situation worse. You brought much of this on yourself.

A few posters here have chosen to gloss over your actions and in my opinion they are doing a disservice to you and the readers that come here to learn. I do admit that at times you can play the professional victim well. Like I said earlier your comment on this post stating, "My goal was to make sure the ghetto neighbor was gone & I was the last one standing" says it all. This was a game to you and you were willing to make yourself sick in order to 'win' the battle.

As others have suggested I hope you will avoid condos in the future. If you don't I can almost say with 100% certainty that you will once again find yourself in the same situation. It's just how you are wired.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Oh sweetie, the stuff on here comes nowhere near "cyber-bullying" - too many regular posters would complain and the mods would yeet the offender(s).

Pointing out that someone is making a situation worse with their own (in)actions isn't "bullying". You can't solve a problem without understanding all the moving parts, including your own part in it. If this particular problem is "solved". it's because some of the moving parts outside of your control have changed. The wrong lesson has been learned, making it more likely that this situation will repeat itself in the future.

But... not my circus, not my monkeys.
AugustinD
Posts: 1,027
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People have in fact been kicked off hoatalk.com and yes, for being abusive to others. If these folks (who were kicked off) wanted to return, they had to create new accounts and names. Some have been serially abusive and have had to do so repeatedly. (And yes, I have been derisive or worse at times but so far, have not been kicked off.)

Some blatant, completely non-constructive attacks occurred on the OP AFAIC. Those comments could have been re-written so as to still play the important role of bad cop but while still being constructive, too. E.g.

"I advise against using a ceiling thumper? Why? Because then this tenant can turn around and complain about you."

"I advise not referring to the tenant as 'ghetto.' This may be crossing a line to the stuff of a valid Fair Housing complaint."

I agree a condominium is probably not advisable for the OP.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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You act like we are supposed to be living in your world. Are we supposed to react like you won and proud? No. We think you are in the wrong for being aggressive and possible racist against your neighbor.

I am happy for your neighbor finally deciding to move. That is the best decision for all involved. If anything your neighbor is now the winner here. No longer has to put up with the harassment.

Former HOA President
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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Posted By AugustinD on 10/04/2022 6:41 AM
People have in fact been kicked off hoatalk.com and yes, for being abusive to others. If these folks (who were kicked off) wanted to return, they had to create new accounts and names. Some have been serially abusive and have had to do so repeatedly. (And yes, I have been derisive or worse at times but so far, have not been kicked off.)

Some blatant, completely non-constructive attacks occurred on the OP AFAIC. Those comments could have been re-written so as to still play the important role of bad cop but while still being constructive, too. E.g.

"I advise against using a ceiling thumper? Why? Because then this tenant can turn around and complain about you."

"I advise not referring to the tenant as 'ghetto.' This may be crossing a line to the stuff of a valid Fair Housing complaint."

I agree a condominium is probably not advisable for the OP.

I agree with you and admit I have crossed the line on occasion. There is always a way to get your point across without demoralizing someone. I also agree that Tim serves as an example for all of us.
LayaS (Nebraska)
Posts: 249
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Posted By AugustinD on 10/04/2022 6:41 AM
People have in fact been kicked off hoatalk.com and yes, for being abusive to others. If these folks (who were kicked off) wanted to return, they had to create new accounts and names. Some have been serially abusive and have had to do so repeatedly. (And yes, I have been derisive or worse at times but so far, have not been kicked off.)

Some blatant, completely non-constructive attacks occurred on the OP AFAIC. Those comments could have been re-written so as to still play the important role of bad cop but while still being constructive, too. E.g.

"I advise against using a ceiling thumper? Why? Because then this tenant can turn around and complain about you."

"I advise not referring to the tenant as 'ghetto.' This may be crossing a line to the stuff of a valid Fair Housing complaint."

I agree a condominium is probably not advisable for the OP.

I agree with everything you said. And I have been on the receiving end of abusive postings (not often) and have also been inappropriate myself at times. I formerly posted as BancsS and resigned from the forum due to one particular poster, in my opinion should have been kicked off the forum long ago.

In a forum like this, one takes the good with the bad. More often than not, posters try to be helpful but some step over the line. I truly believe there are times certain posts teeter on the edge of cyberbullying. It's not necessary to get one's point across.

I think Danielle took a bad situation and made it worse by her behavior and calling the tenant "ghetto" is very inappropriate among some of the other things she did. How one reacts to adverse situations is part of one's character. We can take those situations and examine them and ask ourselves some tough questions. Like what did I do to make it worse and how can I grow and handle things better in tough situations.

Condo living is probably not advisable as Augustin stated as did some others.

AugustinD
Posts: 1,027
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LayaS (BancsS), good to have you back. I hope the new house is working out.
LayaS (Nebraska)
Posts: 249
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Posted By AugustinD on 10/04/2022 9:40 AM
LayaS (BancsS), good to have you back. I hope the new house is working out.

Thank you. And thanks for asking about our new house. We haven't moved yet. We were supposed to close last Friday, September 30, due to some unexpected paperwork issues. The lender is being super picky and making us take a home buyers education course. This is our 6th home purchase, we have impeccable credit, and a very large down payment. Sign of the times I guess. Home buying is so complex these days. It's a VA loan with some extra benefits for Nebraska veterans.
AugustinD
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Posted By LayaS on 10/04/2022 10:19 AM
And thanks for asking about our new house. We haven't moved yet. We were supposed to close last Friday, September 30, due to some unexpected paperwork issues. The lender is being super picky and making us take a home buyers education course.
That things have reached the point where lenders are requiring buyers to take a "home buyer's education course" is hysterical.

Perhaps such a course is indeed a good thing. However if I were teaching the course, Day 1, Lesson 1 would be:

Lenders Are Not Your Friend
Wannabee home owners, lenders are the enemy. The authors of this course feel you should suck up to lenders, but always remember lenders want your money as much as the next guy; fraudulent lending practices were one of thee top causes of the Great Recession of 2007-2009; and lenders do not know how you live the way you know how you live. You will want to meet the lenders' standards, yes, but this course will teach you thee actual standards for determining whether you can safely afford a home of a certain price.


LayaS, maybe consider starting a new thread that features your notes from this course?

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