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JeffK14 (New Hampshire)
Posts: 19
Posted:
I am in a condominium in NH. The setup is pretty different as it’s seasonal it’s considered a condominium campground. There are 456 units on 90 acres on a lake. The budget is typically slightly over a million dollars. The state of NH passed a condominium act which setup what is essentially eliminated the owners rejecting the budget. 2/3 of all units have to vote against the budget for it to fail. The state does require the use of Roberts rules. I plan to make a motion to permanently postpone the article which would kill voting on it. Would this work?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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State law supersedes anything that a community's governing docs say unless the state law specifically defers to language in the governing docs. So if your state law has eliminated homeowner's ability to vote down budgets without any exceptions, then there are no steps that homeowners can take to get around this, and you're setting yourselves up for legal trouble if you try.

FWIW, I refer to provisions allowing homeowners to vote down budgets or assessment increases as "licenses to commit financial suicide", with things like the Surfside condo collapse as the worst case end result.

What you should do is dig into your community's financials to understand where the money is being spent. If you think the current board isn't making wise decisions, or you think you can do a better job, you need to get elected to the board.

KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
You're not going to stop your HOA's ratification of the upcoming budget without getting those 2/3's of people to show and actively reject the budget when it's presented for ratification. Your motion, if you're not on the board of directors, would not be accepted. If you are on the board of directors, it could be ruled non-germane or improper as HOA operations require a budget.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Cathy's reply is concise yet thorough and looks absolutely on target to me.
JeffK14 (New Hampshire)
Posts: 19
Posted:
That would be ok but any of the finances except for a summary is all you get even though the condo act states owners can see all financials by request and the board has 15 days to comply but they don’t so only option at that point is to file suit.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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No, you have another option - vote in another board or recall them. The first is self explanatory - when annual meeting and board elections come around, you should have candidates for however many positions are up for re-election. Those candidates will have to make their case to the community and encourage everyone to come out and vote. Hopefully, your candidates win - and yes, you may have to step up and run for one of those slots.

For a recall, there will be more drama and it'll take longer, but it can work. First check your documents to see if it addresses the subject. If you don't see any instructions on how to recall board members, there should be something on calling special homeowner meetings. Usually, you have to have a certain percentage of homeowners sign a petition to present to the board, who should then call the meeting. Your petition will state why the meeting is being requested, so if you do have such a meeting, you'll have to make your case (again) as to why this board should be tossed. You should also have homeowners ready to step up and take over.

However, you get a new board, the next issue will be the budget - and this is where the uncomfortable conversations start. You say this is a vacation community and from what I've read on this website, they're even worse than your garden variety HOA when it comes to homeowner apathy. IT appears as long as the buildings remain standing and you can swim, bike, hike, or whatever, no one thinks very much about what it takes to keep the community running. It's not cheap and prices DO go up (people often forget about inflation as well).

Underfunded communities (remember Surfside?) could be why this law was enacted, but for some reason, I think you may have misinterpreted something - as ridiculous as state legislatures can be, I would think that's really ballsy to mandate homeowners can't vote down an HOA budget (then again, looking at all these voter suppression laws littering the landscape, I could be wrong). Anyway, the language your read might have been been referring to the reserve fund or something else - go back and read the entire law again. It may be something written before or after whatever clause you read will make it easier to understand.

Back to the current board - if enough people object, that may be enough for them to straighten up and begin providing more details on the budget. You should be reviewing the monthly income/expense statements for the last two or three years to get an idea of which line items have increased faster than others, and then find out why. It may be the board needs to return to basics like getting several bids for expensive work. Or rereadin the reserve study to see how closely they've been funding it. If you don't know what a reserve study is, there are several old conversations on this website where you can get the basics and that may help you understand what's going in in your community. If it's been over 5 years since a reserve study has been done, homeowners should demand the board get one so everyone will understand what they may expect down the road and how to prepare for it.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JeffK14 (New Hampshire)
Posts: 19
Posted:
The property and all the buildings are in excess condition. Over the past 4 years we spent over 2 million dollars on septic field replacements. Last October the president and treasurer resigned. The 3 remaining board members dragged their feet to fill the vacancies. A Group of us called a special meeting to fill the vacancies the board stated that it didn’t matter who got voted on they would not be seated their appointed flunkies would remain on board. I do agree owner apathy is a big problem. This year they have $517,000 special assessment built into the budget. 306 owners would have to vote no. Highly unlikely there will even be that many vote
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Jeff
It is quite common that association members do not get to vote to approve a yearly budget. It is more common that they get to vote to not accept the new budget as presented. It is also common for that amount to be at least 50% of all owners and often more.

In my association the BOD presents the budget for the upcoming year including any increase in yearly assessments (dues). In order to not accept this budget would require owners (15%) to call for a Special Meeting with the sole purpose of not accepting the proposed budget. It takes 51% OF ALL MEMBERS voting to not accept the budget. If this were to happen, we would have to operate under the present budget with an automatic 5% dues increase.

I am not talking about Special Assessments. They are a different animal.
AugustinD
Posts: 1,027
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Posted By JeffK14 on 09/07/2022 8:37 AM
I am in a condominium in NH. The setup is pretty different as it’s seasonal it’s considered a condominium campground. There are 456 units on 90 acres on a lake. The budget is typically slightly over a million dollars. The state of NH passed a condominium act which setup what is essentially eliminated the owners rejecting the budget. 2/3 of all units have to vote against the budget for it to fail. The state does require the use of Roberts rules. I plan to make a motion to permanently postpone the article which would kill voting on it. Would this work?
The exact wording from the NH Condo Act is:

The board of directors, at least annually, shall adopt a proposed budget for the unit owners' association for consideration by the unit owners. Not later than 30 days after adoption of a proposed budget, the board of directors shall provide to all the unit owners a summary of the budget, including any reserves, and a statement of the basis on which any reserves are calculated and funded. Simultaneously, the board shall set a date not less than 10 days or more than 60 days after providing the summary for a meeting of the unit owners to consider ratification of the budget. Unless at that meeting 2/3 of all unit owners or any larger number specified in the declaration reject the budget, the budget is ratified, whether or not a quorum is present. If a proposed budget is rejected, the budget last ratified by the unit owners continues until the unit owners ratify a subsequent budget.

Your plan is to motion to postpone the vote, correct?

The problem is that the wording of the statute section translates to:

no vote to reject the budget (at this meeting) = ratification.

Wording like this is pretty common nationwide. The point of the wording is to ensure owners feel so strongly that they rally 2/3ds of all unit owners to vote to reject the budget.

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