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NpB (Arizona)
Posts: 605
Posted:
Our HOA has a gated vehicle entry with an entry keypad. All the monuments around the entry are low in height and shaped in a non conducive way to apply cameras to. The only practical and theft deterrent method to apply cameras would be atop a tall metal pole, perhaps one at the entry and one at the exit. Does this make the most sense?

At this point, I have zero knowledge of security camera systems. We don't need active monitoring, just full time recording and the ability to rewind the footage to investigate.

Does this type of system require a monthly contract with a security company to store video footage? What are the one time equipment and installation costs and monthly costs for such a system?

The crime rate in my neighborhood is extremely low thankfully, but I think cameras would be a deterrent to crime. In addition, since residents grumble when there is a gate code change, a camera would be a deterrent or would provide a good lead if someone with the old gate code did something nefarious.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
You know what helps the most? Knowing what the laws are for how security tape is applied. It's like people think posting a "No trespassing/Private property" sign has some sort of "power". You would be surprised in many states this does not really apply any sort of tougher laws or rights. It doesn't magically give you the power to "shoot" a trespasser and not get charged with murder. You will get charged as police can not drop charges. It will be at the court trial that the charges will apply or not.

It is not unlike when you apply use of video tape. Who owns the footage? The crime has already been committed. Did it actually stop it? Or did you get to view it happening?

Crime can happen any time and any place. Just because you are low crime now does not mean that tomorrow. You may be low crime because you do have video surveillance. It may be that criminals just don't know the opportunity yet. The cameras play a good role in many things but it does not encompass everything.

Former HOA President
LisaB21 (Texas)
Posts: 97
Posted:
A consultation with a good security firm in your area that both installs camera equipment, and monitors or stores the footage, will answer all your questions. Also consider power source to the cameras and placement of the equipment, possible need for wi-fi to transmit recorded video to hard drive or cloud storage, etc.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
If you do security cameras, don't go "cheap." Go for safety and viewability....and set clear HOA policies for reviewing the footage or allow open viewing for all your dues payers since it enhances community watch.
MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
Posts: 462
Posted:
I am curious which Board member will spend hours of free time providing video footage to homeowners and/or police anytime something suspicious happens inside the gates. Suspicious behavior might include actual crimes, suspected crimes, junveniles being juveniles, stay at home wives cheating on husband, etc.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
I truly agree your need to have clear rules on who accesses the video and when. The board should always have access and should only allow access if a crime has been committed and a Police report has been issued. Several times spouses wanted to use them to catch spouses unwanted guests. This is not the purpose of these cameras.

My community in Ca. had both regular cameras and also license plate capture cameras at our single entrance and exit. They solved several crimes over the years and helped fight crime in our HOA. Remember cameras do not sleep and work 24 hours a day. If you are going to do it don't be cheap. I personally think this is the best use of HOA funds. We had several criminals caught the same day they came into out neighborhood. Trust me that word get a round.
MaxB4
Posts: 3,513
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Posted By MichaelT21 on 09/04/2022 7:08 PM
I am curious which Board member will spend hours of free time providing video footage to homeowners and/or police anytime something suspicious happens inside the gates. Suspicious behavior might include actual crimes, suspected crimes, junveniles being juveniles, stay at home wives cheating on husband, etc.

The president, of course.
NpB (Arizona)
Posts: 605
Posted:
So the best place to start then would be to enter my city or state's name and HOA security cameras into a search engine to find vendors?

Do you think this is a cost effective use of money in the long term?

MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
Posts: 462
Posted:
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Posted By NpB on 09/16/2022 4:20 PM
So the best place to start then would be to enter my city or state's name and HOA security cameras into a search engine to find vendors?

Do you think this is a cost effective use of money in the long term?


I don't think it's a time-effective use of Board members time.
NpB (Arizona)
Posts: 605
Posted:
MichaelT21: Why do you not think it's an effective use of Board member's time?
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
Posted:
Our gate vendor provides our security cameras. He's an overall security expert. We have entry/exit cameras and license plate cameras. We're in the process of upgrading to cameras that have a clear picture even at night.

Our property manager pulls footage if necessary - for example if someone knocks down the bar or runs into the actual gate. It happens more than you think. We can also pull footage if there's a crime reported so we can see who may have come in or gone out.

I agree - don't go cheap on the cameras. If your board has made the decision to add cameras, then spend the money so you can review the footage easily and you can actually see details at night.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Yes, It's our PM who pulls footage too. We have about 16 cameras due to our 2 towers being on a square block in an urban setting. Needing to view footage is actually quite rare but nailed some residents damaging an elevator interior and others vehicle entry gates. And an Owner who "didn't notice" his dog was using the elevator floor as its potty.

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