ZazaS (Maryland)
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Posts: 10
Posted:
Sorry if this is a long post
I am the HOA president of our new construction community. I've been the president since Oct 2021 and was elected again at our official turnover meeting in April 2022. There are 3 board members, and I am the only one enforcing violations (which I don't mind, though it would be nice if the other board members helped). Because it has just been me... I have been bullied privately via Facebook messages and publically on our unofficial neighborhood facebook group.
The short version:
Resident H: has privately attacked me and now publicly on Facebook, is making false accusations about me reporting invalid violations for her and is attacking my character
Resident P: has publicly attacked me, my character, and my dogs. She has even made a subtle threat "I won’t be so nice next time if it happens again".
In summary, they are trying to intimidate me into not reporting violations.
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The long version:
I was trying to be nice and not report things, and because of that, we started getting complaints about illegal parking (people parking on sidewalks and in front of fire hydrants) and people leaving trashcans in front of their garages. People want to complain to the HOA, but no one wants to actually report anyone. The HOA sent a memo to the community describing the issues and why they were rules and to abide by them. I noticed people still weren't abiding by them, so I started having our HOA manager issue violations for every trashcan or illegal parking violation I saw while on my dog walks. AKA, doing my job.
We have about 100 townhomes in the neighborhood. For the most part, 90% of residents who received a violation fixed the issues, the rest needed multiple violations and one even is currently getting fined $25 a day until they put their trashcans away.
I will start with resident H... She has been bullying and causing issues in the community since day one. We have overflow parking, and she seems to think the parking is guest only parking. She has threatened to tow people's cars who use it as their own and is just nasty to people about it. She also took it upon herself to start messaging me privately at how outraged she was that I was not enforcing these non-existent HOA rules, I just ignored her, as we have stated multiple times that there aren't any rules about guest parking, and we need to wait until the neighborhood is fully turned over to vote on any new ones. She is upset that her 30 guests couldn't find parking one day. She also posted some nasty things on her personal facebook about some of the other neighbors and turned the entire parking issue into a race issue.
Last year I tried asking everyone nicely to please clear the ice from their driveways (it's the law and dangerous), and I was given lots of excuses and resident H basically told me to go fuck off, no one cares, and if I care so much to shovel it myself.
So, once I started trying to enforce trashcans and parking rules, she got quite a few violations, along with like probably 40+ residents over the course of a few months. At which point I get this nasty message from her: "Are you the board president or neighborhood watch because I know it is you that is using your “power” to report my every move to chambers. Please worry about your unruly grass in the front and back (I can see your high weeds from my deck), your dogs popping on people lawns, your trash blowing in others yard, and not the hour or so I may park at the end of the street. You are ridiculous! This is borderline harassment at this point"
To which I responded: "First off, all reports to the HOA are anonymous. Yes, I have reported you (you were parked there ALL weekend), and ALL the like 12 residents that were leaving their trashcan out front, and if I can see who is parking illegally I will also report them, as there have been complaints to myself and the HOA about the parking and trashcans. So, it’s not just you.
Feel free to report my high weeds, that’s what the anonymous system is for. I know they are long, precisely why I am putting in fake grass this month, fucking hate taking care of a yard. I am unaware of my trash blowing onto other peoples yards, but if that’s the case, I will try and fix that.
I always clean up after my dogs, and try to respect people who have signs up. Nothing in the HOA stating I can’t let my dog poop/pee anywhere, just to clean it up."
She responded with pics of her car in her driveway like 4 times during the weekend, and that was the end of that conversation.
Up until now, I just thought it was hilarious how upset this woman is getting over this. Doesn't make any sense!! She wants me to enforce non-existent rules, yet not enforce actual rules that affect her... okay, let me get right on that.
I reported resident P for not pulling all the way forward and leaving part of their car on the sidewalk. It wasn't very far on the sidewalk, but I learned by not reporting another resident of this right away, that they will slowly creep further and further out and then a neighbor sees it and decides its also a good idea and does the same thing, and then I need to report multiple houses. I will just attach redacted pictures for that convo, cause it's just insane!!
According to residents H and P, I am being passive-aggressive, I am harassing the entire neighborhood, and I am abusing my "power" (implied white power). Resident H is telling lies about me making false reports about her and told the HOA manager that I am a racist. Somehow, they are under the impression that I have time to walk around knocking on everyone's door, or looking people up on Facebook to ask them nicely to fix a violation. No matter what I say about that, they go back to being nasty. I got fed up at some point and told them point blank..." I am tired of you trying to bully me into not reporting violations though, and I won't stop just cause you throw a fit." They even were making me out to be a monster for reporting one of my neighbors who had a stroke a couple of months ago. I didn't know what house she was in, but now that I do, it doesn't mean her husband is allowed to block the sidewalk by not pulling the truck all the way onto the driveway. The stroke lady and I have since talked, and she is no longer upset and realizes I was just doing my job. A few other residents decided to join the bashing and either poke fun or just make snide comments at my behest.
Resident H even somehow convinced my awesome neighbor that I am in the wrong and need to apologize to them because they are upset. -.- Never gonna happen.
I asked the HOA board to have our lawyer send letters to residents H and P, because bullying is unacceptable. The board member that responds (the other never responds to anything) wanted to instead send a memo to the entire community explaining the violations. So I agreed to that, even though we have already done that, but only if we also include that we are just doing our jobs and following hoa policies, that we are volunteers and don't have time to knock on everyone's door or look them up about violations. That letter will be going out on Tuesday.
I am willing to bet money that after residents H and P get that letter, that they will post on our Facebook group and continue to bully me. If they do, I will then have the HOA lawyer send that letter (pretty sure the board will agree at that point), and then I will quit, because I don't need this stress. I can handle a LOT, but I tell ya... being bullied, that shit gets to you. Once I am no longer part of the HOA board, I plan on informing the community why I left and what bullying is, and that it is inappropriate and should not be tolerated in our community group.
For a laugh: resident P said the equivalent of... Robber talking to store owner "if you don't stop reporting my stealing to the cops, I am going to tell the cops to make you stop reporting me." -- In what world does this make any sense?
Thanks for making it to the end. I have been very stressed from this, and could really use some advice, or even support. Curious if others have dealt with stuff like this.
Thanks!! <3
Z
I couldn't figure out how to get the attachments to work, so uploaded a highly redacted version of the facebook bullying here: https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:b3ac1181-ad97-379d-b13f-3e06c479e61d
I am the HOA president of our new construction community. I've been the president since Oct 2021 and was elected again at our official turnover meeting in April 2022. There are 3 board members, and I am the only one enforcing violations (which I don't mind, though it would be nice if the other board members helped). Because it has just been me... I have been bullied privately via Facebook messages and publically on our unofficial neighborhood facebook group.
The short version:
Resident H: has privately attacked me and now publicly on Facebook, is making false accusations about me reporting invalid violations for her and is attacking my character
Resident P: has publicly attacked me, my character, and my dogs. She has even made a subtle threat "I won’t be so nice next time if it happens again".
In summary, they are trying to intimidate me into not reporting violations.
------------------------------------
The long version:
I was trying to be nice and not report things, and because of that, we started getting complaints about illegal parking (people parking on sidewalks and in front of fire hydrants) and people leaving trashcans in front of their garages. People want to complain to the HOA, but no one wants to actually report anyone. The HOA sent a memo to the community describing the issues and why they were rules and to abide by them. I noticed people still weren't abiding by them, so I started having our HOA manager issue violations for every trashcan or illegal parking violation I saw while on my dog walks. AKA, doing my job.
We have about 100 townhomes in the neighborhood. For the most part, 90% of residents who received a violation fixed the issues, the rest needed multiple violations and one even is currently getting fined $25 a day until they put their trashcans away.
I will start with resident H... She has been bullying and causing issues in the community since day one. We have overflow parking, and she seems to think the parking is guest only parking. She has threatened to tow people's cars who use it as their own and is just nasty to people about it. She also took it upon herself to start messaging me privately at how outraged she was that I was not enforcing these non-existent HOA rules, I just ignored her, as we have stated multiple times that there aren't any rules about guest parking, and we need to wait until the neighborhood is fully turned over to vote on any new ones. She is upset that her 30 guests couldn't find parking one day. She also posted some nasty things on her personal facebook about some of the other neighbors and turned the entire parking issue into a race issue.
Last year I tried asking everyone nicely to please clear the ice from their driveways (it's the law and dangerous), and I was given lots of excuses and resident H basically told me to go fuck off, no one cares, and if I care so much to shovel it myself.
So, once I started trying to enforce trashcans and parking rules, she got quite a few violations, along with like probably 40+ residents over the course of a few months. At which point I get this nasty message from her: "Are you the board president or neighborhood watch because I know it is you that is using your “power” to report my every move to chambers. Please worry about your unruly grass in the front and back (I can see your high weeds from my deck), your dogs popping on people lawns, your trash blowing in others yard, and not the hour or so I may park at the end of the street. You are ridiculous! This is borderline harassment at this point"
To which I responded: "First off, all reports to the HOA are anonymous. Yes, I have reported you (you were parked there ALL weekend), and ALL the like 12 residents that were leaving their trashcan out front, and if I can see who is parking illegally I will also report them, as there have been complaints to myself and the HOA about the parking and trashcans. So, it’s not just you.
Feel free to report my high weeds, that’s what the anonymous system is for. I know they are long, precisely why I am putting in fake grass this month, fucking hate taking care of a yard. I am unaware of my trash blowing onto other peoples yards, but if that’s the case, I will try and fix that.
I always clean up after my dogs, and try to respect people who have signs up. Nothing in the HOA stating I can’t let my dog poop/pee anywhere, just to clean it up."
She responded with pics of her car in her driveway like 4 times during the weekend, and that was the end of that conversation.
Up until now, I just thought it was hilarious how upset this woman is getting over this. Doesn't make any sense!! She wants me to enforce non-existent rules, yet not enforce actual rules that affect her... okay, let me get right on that.
I reported resident P for not pulling all the way forward and leaving part of their car on the sidewalk. It wasn't very far on the sidewalk, but I learned by not reporting another resident of this right away, that they will slowly creep further and further out and then a neighbor sees it and decides its also a good idea and does the same thing, and then I need to report multiple houses. I will just attach redacted pictures for that convo, cause it's just insane!!
According to residents H and P, I am being passive-aggressive, I am harassing the entire neighborhood, and I am abusing my "power" (implied white power). Resident H is telling lies about me making false reports about her and told the HOA manager that I am a racist. Somehow, they are under the impression that I have time to walk around knocking on everyone's door, or looking people up on Facebook to ask them nicely to fix a violation. No matter what I say about that, they go back to being nasty. I got fed up at some point and told them point blank..." I am tired of you trying to bully me into not reporting violations though, and I won't stop just cause you throw a fit." They even were making me out to be a monster for reporting one of my neighbors who had a stroke a couple of months ago. I didn't know what house she was in, but now that I do, it doesn't mean her husband is allowed to block the sidewalk by not pulling the truck all the way onto the driveway. The stroke lady and I have since talked, and she is no longer upset and realizes I was just doing my job. A few other residents decided to join the bashing and either poke fun or just make snide comments at my behest.
Resident H even somehow convinced my awesome neighbor that I am in the wrong and need to apologize to them because they are upset. -.- Never gonna happen.
I asked the HOA board to have our lawyer send letters to residents H and P, because bullying is unacceptable. The board member that responds (the other never responds to anything) wanted to instead send a memo to the entire community explaining the violations. So I agreed to that, even though we have already done that, but only if we also include that we are just doing our jobs and following hoa policies, that we are volunteers and don't have time to knock on everyone's door or look them up about violations. That letter will be going out on Tuesday.
I am willing to bet money that after residents H and P get that letter, that they will post on our Facebook group and continue to bully me. If they do, I will then have the HOA lawyer send that letter (pretty sure the board will agree at that point), and then I will quit, because I don't need this stress. I can handle a LOT, but I tell ya... being bullied, that shit gets to you. Once I am no longer part of the HOA board, I plan on informing the community why I left and what bullying is, and that it is inappropriate and should not be tolerated in our community group.
For a laugh: resident P said the equivalent of... Robber talking to store owner "if you don't stop reporting my stealing to the cops, I am going to tell the cops to make you stop reporting me." -- In what world does this make any sense?
Thanks for making it to the end. I have been very stressed from this, and could really use some advice, or even support. Curious if others have dealt with stuff like this.
Thanks!! <3
Z
I couldn't figure out how to get the attachments to work, so uploaded a highly redacted version of the facebook bullying here: https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:b3ac1181-ad97-379d-b13f-3e06c479e61d