How to determine the GVWR of a vehicle?

MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
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Our CC&Rs says that vehicles that have a GVWR of 8500 pounds or more are prohibited.

There is a vehicle in our community that visually appears to have a GVWR of more than the allowed amount. However the owner denies it and says it is actually less.

How do we determine the GVWR of the subject vehicle?

MaxB4
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Do a simple Google search. GVWR refer to total capacity, truck weight plus all passengers and cargo.

For example I own a Ram 3500 single rear wheel. It has a GVRW of 11,400#. A Ram 2500 has 10,000# and a Ram 1500 has 7,800#.

MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
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Yes, but this particular vehicle has been modified so there is no nameplate saying what model of vehicle on the back. I know it's (made up) a RAM truck but don't know which model of RAM truck.

MaxB4
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Posted By MichaelT21 on 08/22/2022 2:23 PM
Yes, but this particular vehicle has been modified so there is no nameplate saying what model of vehicle on the back. I know it's (made up) a RAM truck but don't know which model of RAM truck.

The model is on the front, next to the front doors. If the back tailgate says Super Duty, it is a 2500 or 3500. It doesn't matter if it is modified, it is the amount of leaf springs and type of tires that will determine the weight rating. The 2500 and 3500 is the same except for the leaf springs, thus a higher rating.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Maybe look at the license on the vehicle itself. Depending on the state/county you live in, they may have to be identified.

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LetA (Nevada)
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Does the truck have normal issue plates? In many states, trucks over X GVW have to either be appropriated or have Truck plates.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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MT21

As I understand it GVWR is the weight of the actual vehicle including it's weight and the load in/on it. Thus you would need to physically weigh the "loaded" truck to determine its GVWR. What is your problem with this truck?

MaxB4
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Posted By JohnC46 on 08/23/2022 10:03 AM
MT21

As I understand it GVWR is the weight of the actual vehicle including it's weight and the load in/on it. Thus you would need to physically weigh the "loaded" truck to determine its GVWR. What is your problem with this truck?

John

You don't need to weigh the truck. The GVWR is a rating, so max weight the truck can hold.

DouglasK1 (Florida)
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Posted By MaxB4 on 08/23/2022 12:14 PM

Posted By JohnC46 on 08/23/2022 10:03 AM
MT21

As I understand it GVWR is the weight of the actual vehicle including it's weight and the load in/on it. Thus you would need to physically weigh the "loaded" truck to determine its GVWR. What is your problem with this truck?

John

You don't need to weigh the truck. The GVWR is a rating, so max weight the truck can hold.

The GVW would be the actual weight measured by a scale. For an empty truck, that would be less than the rating (GVWR), for an overloaded one, the actual weight would be higher than the rated allowable weight.

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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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The OP said they are unable to identify the truck model and it has many "options" thus would be a higher GVW then when manufactured. The largest 2021 RAM pickup, the 2500 has a GVW of 6623lbs and a load weight of 3130lbs thus a GVWR of 10753lbs.

Assuming it is a GVW of 6623lbs, to get to the 8,500lbs GVWR restriction it would have to have 1877lbs worth of "stuff" on it and/or in it.

I have seen postings where people had a "problem" with a pickup truck size alone, regardless of any weight.

MichaelT21 (Arkansas)
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Posted By JohnC46 on 08/23/2022 1:19 PM
The OP said they are unable to identify the truck model and it has many "options" thus would be a higher GVW then when manufactured. The largest 2021 RAM pickup, the 2500 has a GVW of 6623lbs and a load weight of 3130lbs thus a GVWR of 10753lbs.

Assuming it is a GVW of 6623lbs, to get to the 8,500lbs GVWR restriction it would have to have 1877lbs worth of "stuff" on it and/or in it.

I have seen postings where people had a "problem" with a pickup truck size alone, regardless of any weight.

The RAM was a made up vehicle.

It's not a pickup truck. It's a box truck that could be used to deliver refrigerators. Online, it would appear to have a GVWR of 11,500 pounds. The owner claims it is about 8000 pounds. I know the make and model of the vehicle but not the specific configuration of the many different configurations it comes in.

I don't have an issue with pickup trucks. We have many in our neighborhood. Box trucks, used to deliver appliances, are not fitting for a residential neighborhood.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MichaelT21 on 08/23/2022 1:23 PM

Posted By JohnC46 on 08/23/2022 1:19 PM
The OP said they are unable to identify the truck model and it has many "options" thus would be a higher GVW then when manufactured. The largest 2021 RAM pickup, the 2500 has a GVW of 6623lbs and a load weight of 3130lbs thus a GVWR of 10753lbs.

Assuming it is a GVW of 6623lbs, to get to the 8,500lbs GVWR restriction it would have to have 1877lbs worth of "stuff" on it and/or in it.

I have seen postings where people had a "problem" with a pickup truck size alone, regardless of any weight.

The RAM was a made up vehicle.

It's not a pickup truck. It's a box truck that could be used to deliver refrigerators. Online, it would appear to have a GVWR of 11,500 pounds. The owner claims it is about 8000 pounds. I know the make and model of the vehicle but not the specific configuration of the many different configurations it comes in.

I don't have an issue with pickup trucks. We have many in our neighborhood. Box trucks, used to deliver appliances, are not fitting for a residential neighborhood.

It would have been nice if you gave out this information from the get go.

MaxB4
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The largest would be a RAM 3500, which would be equal to a Ford F350 and its GVWR is 11,700#. My truck has two stickers on the driver side door, one is truck weight and the other is cargo weight. I pull a 5th wheel, so cargo weight would be the passengers, all that is in the bed of truck such as generator, hitch, etc, plus 18% of the weight of the 5th wheel itself.

The stickers on the inside door are specific to my truck as it came off the assembly line.

MaxB4
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Posted By MichaelT21 on 08/23/2022 1:23 PM

Posted By JohnC46 on 08/23/2022 1:19 PM
The OP said they are unable to identify the truck model and it has many "options" thus would be a higher GVW then when manufactured. The largest 2021 RAM pickup, the 2500 has a GVW of 6623lbs and a load weight of 3130lbs thus a GVWR of 10753lbs.

Assuming it is a GVW of 6623lbs, to get to the 8,500lbs GVWR restriction it would have to have 1877lbs worth of "stuff" on it and/or in it.

I have seen postings where people had a "problem" with a pickup truck size alone, regardless of any weight.

The RAM was a made up vehicle.

It's not a pickup truck. It's a box truck that could be used to deliver refrigerators. Online, it would appear to have a GVWR of 11,500 pounds. The owner claims it is about 8000 pounds. I know the make and model of the vehicle but not the specific configuration of the many different configurations it comes in.

I don't have an issue with pickup trucks. We have many in our neighborhood. Box trucks, used to deliver appliances, are not fitting for a residential neighborhood.

Especially in an affluent neighborhood in the State of Washington.