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LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
given the following scenario. what options does a owner who is not currently on the board have to get equal access.?

texas condominium governed under texas 81

election for board seats had 8 candidates and 4 seats.

4 of the candidates were existing board members, 4 were challengers.

the 4 exisiting board members were told by the onsite manager(also a board member(already a conflict of interest)) there was a real threat to their retaining their seats, the 4 challengers were going door to door to gather proxies. The onsite manager(board member whose seat was up for election) contacted the other 3 board members. They proceeded to extract the owner name and phone numbers from the monthly financials. The board members agreed to divide the list in 4 and start calling all the owners on the list to get proxies.

The challenger owners were told the contact list was not available and it was an invasion of privacy to release phone numbers.

This is obviously doublespeak.

The contact list with phone numbers is part of the info that an office manager would have for the purpose of needed contact for maintenance and repairs only,
the extraction of data from the financials is doable, but it is outside of the intent of sending the entire financials to the board every month.

Is this actually acceptable in anyones opinion.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
again,

i'm not trying to go back in time.

I'm just trying to ascertain. Am I right in my thinking that this scenario is wrong.

Or is this just the way things are and all elections for hoa's are rigged in some way?
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
again,

i'm not trying to go back in time.

I'm just trying to ascertain. Am I right in my thinking that this scenario is wrong.

Or is this just the way things are and all elections for hoa's are rigged in some way?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
It is most likely "rigged" so they don't have people on the board like you. No one wants to work with an ankle biter...

Former HOA President
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Somewhere in Augustin's previous responses to your previous posts (too many to mention), there's probably something regarding owner access to owner lists you might use, so you can send the board and property manager a letter. Or do your own research and check your documents and state law - surely you knew that one day you might have to do all this yourself, didn't you?

You could also have an attorney do the research and send the letter, but will all this be done in time for the meeting? Dunno.

That leaves the third option - you and the challenge owners will have to pound the pavement, divide the neighborhood into four groups, go out to homeowners yourselves and make your case. Such is politics - Fredrick Douglass said power concedes nothing without demand. You have to be smarter than the opponents, especially since they don't want YOU on the board and will do everything to stop that.

That said, the homeowners have the final say, so you'll just have to keep talking to them and encourage them to get involved and vote. That may mean encouraging them to vote for the other challengers if they're inclined to believe whatever this board has said about you. And to be honest, your frequent nitpicking at the property manager and other folk hasn't helped.

When this ends (however this election ends), stop and take a breath and evaluate everything and decide your next step. Talk to some neighbors your trust and see what they think. Be willing to LISTEN because you might hear everyone's getting tired of you, even though you have valid points about the board. It may be time for you to sit down and let others take up the mantle - you can still work with them.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
My understanding is the MC/BOD must provide the names and addresses of owners upon request from another owner. The list does not have to include phone numbers nor Email addresses.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
i'm not talking about an address list. I'm talking about the actual phone numbers and email lists.

that info is available to the onsite property manger as they have a need for it in their day to day operations of the community.

However, the onsite property manager position is being filled by a board member. The board member was up for reelection. He printed out the list for the other 3 incumbant board members whose seats were up for election .

anyway,,it's rotten, The starting point is , a board member should never be the onsite paid property manager. too many obvious and potential conflicts.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
In CA Civil Code, all candidates must have access to the same resources, e.g., meeting space, space in the newsletter, access to owners info, etc. Does Texas have any such legislation?
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
sheilia,

i appreciate this response.

currently in the process of option 3.

I haven't heard that frederick douglass .. i'll have to look up the context.. i like the quote.

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