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DavidG45 (Delaware)
Posts: 994
Posted:
There seems to me that there is a conflict between homeowners' right to know their rules are being enforced, and other homeowners' right to privacy.

We have an instance where our 55+ community has an age restriction; no children under the age of 19 are allowed to reside in any home. There is a family with at least one child that has been living here since last October. Residents have sent letter after letter to the BOD, demanding that our age restrictions be followed. The BOD simply says they are "looking into it" but that they cannot discuss the matter due to privacy concerns.

I certainly understand the right to privacy. But that is the BOD's answer to any complaints about any violation. It seems that people who violate the rules are the only ones with any rights, whereas those who want our rules followed have no rights. What is the solution to this conflict? Is there any solution?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
You think you have a right to know, but they have a right to privacy which trumps your perceived right to know.

This may be an issue of reasonable accommodation under the fair housing act.

Other then living there, is the child causing issues within the development?
AugustinD
Posts: 15
Posted:
Is this the family with the disabled child * ? If so, and assuming the statutes and covenants do not say otherwise, then in my opinion the Board is correct to offer no response to anyone who complains about the age restriction violation. Why? Because this is also a Fair Housing (specifically disability) issue. To bring unwanted attention to this family because of the disability could very well amount to promoting an unlawful hostile environment (based on disability) towards them.

Owners will have to figure out on their own that if they feel that the terms of the contract (the covenants) are being violated and that the law in its entirety is on their side, then they are certainly free to file suit against the family and/or the HOA. But explaining this option to owners is not the board's job nor the HOA attorney's job. In fact, explaining this to owners would violate the board's fiduciary duty and the HOA attorney's duty to his/her client.

Often finding a solution requires picking among the least worst solutions.

I think you should review again the other thread. It sounds like you do not understand the points made there. Ask specific questions about what you do not understand, and maybe this forum can help.

* See https://www.hoatalk.com/Forum/tabid/55/view/topic/postid/326451/forumid/1/tpage/1/Default.aspx . The rights of the disabled individual compete against the rights to have the contractual terms enforced. Only one major court decision appears to have spoken to this. The court said the disabled person's rights trump the covenants.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I think in some states (FL?) homeowners have a right to information about violations, but as far as I can tell that's not the norm. I think if violations are discussed in executive session only, then homeowners probably don't have a right to this information.

You also have the potential for litigation in situations like this, and any discussions between the HOA and attorney must be kept confidential in order to protect attorney-client privilege. So there are two reasons the information may not be available.

I'm sympathetic to any former board member who discovers how little homeowners actually know what's going on their communities, even if the current board is being transparent. It really bugged me when I first stepped down, and it still annoys occasionally. But that's HOA/COA ownership.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Our HOA we only talked "Lot #'s" and what actions we were taking. We did NOT talk names. All members need to know is that we are aware of the issue and we are taking this action. So if lot #3 was behind in dues for 6 months. We would state Lot #3 behind in dues. We contacted. They refused to pay. We filed a lien. Moving on... What else does anyone need to know?

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