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LauraP3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 2
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Background-Pennsylvania HOA established 1992. Phase 1 completed and bylaws and CC&Rs recorded. Second builder completed Phase 2 building units and the common facilities that were for both associations in 1996 and established a Condo Assoc which then deeded the common facilities back to the HOA and stated in their declaration that the HOA was the Master Association for the common facilities. No amendments were created in HOA bylaws to identify the Board or the Rules and Regs of the Master Association at that time of transfer which seems like a huge oversight. There are only two incorporated entities.
Per Bylaws The HOA BoD is made up of 5 unit owners of the HOA and have managed both the HOA and the common facilities (Master) since then assessing the operation and reserve fees to all members in both communities. Contracts and funds are clearly separated.
We believe that a separate BoD in the HOA Bylaws limited to the Master responsibilities and including members from the Condo Assoc is a fairer way and will help share the workload needed.
The legal question. The HOA is grandfathered from several parts of PA Title 68 but if changes are made to specific sections then the statute kicks in. Would an approved amendment in the HOA bylaws for a separate BoD for the Common Facilities activate all statutes related to the Master Assoc or does this only happen if the Master Association is a separate incorporated entity.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Get there to an attorney - if Gordon the board, why not start with the association attorney?

Most of us aren't lawyers and it can be a bad idea to get answers to specific legal issues on the internet. If you take action based on that and it blows up in your face, then what?

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
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Posted By SheliaH on 07/10/2022 6:26 AM
Get there to an attorney - if Gordon the board, why not start with the association attorney?

Most of us aren't lawyers and it can be a bad idea to get answers to specific legal issues on the internet. If you take action based on that and it blows up in your face, then what?

Who is Gordon?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Posted By JohnT38 on 07/10/2022 6:43 AM
Posted By SheliaH on 07/10/2022 6:26 AM
Get there to an attorney - if Gordon the board, why not start with the association attorney?

Most of us aren't lawyers and it can be a bad idea to get answers to specific legal issues on the internet. If you take action based on that and it blows up in your face, then what?


Who is Gordon?

I think he's a typo: "you're on". :-)

Tablets are awful for auto-correct. They don't just fix things that they think are wrong, they think they know better than the human what should be written.
LauraP3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Okay. Thanks. We have talked to legal. It’s just the weekend and the question ran through my head. Wondered if anyone had experience with that.
Appreciate the feedback!
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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With others, so far as I know there are no attorneys here and, at the moment, no regular posters from PA.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Posted By CathyA3 on 07/10/2022 7:56 AM
Posted By JohnT38 on 07/10/2022 6:43 AM
Posted By SheliaH on 07/10/2022 6:26 AM
Get there to an attorney - if Gordon the board, why not start with the association attorney?

Most of us aren't lawyers and it can be a bad idea to get answers to specific legal issues on the internet. If you take action based on that and it blows up in your face, then what?


Who is Gordon?


I think he's a typo: "you're on". :-)

Tablets are awful for auto-correct. They don't just fix things that they think are wrong, they think they know better than the human what should be written.



Yup!!!! One of my tablets is notorious for throwing in words that don't make sense (thanks AI!) I think I'm getting better at catching weirdness though, although I missed this one!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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You do a lot better than I do, Shelia!

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