REJOICE! GLORY IS OURS!

Why? What was he doing wrong???

Congratulations! And now, the work begins in turning things around. If these new board members are brand new to running an HOA, I think a transition meeting would help to get them acquainted with how things are run. Not to mention addressing the "short list" of the president's sins - all of you should remember:

1 - all of you have one vote and ONLY ONE vote. Policy decisions must be made as a group - it's ok to vote against it if you feel strongly about the motion, but if the motion passes anyway, it's your responsibility as a board member to do what you can to make the decision work. Time will tell if you were right.

2. All of you are responsible for rule enforcement to be fair and consistent. You don't simply ignore rules because you think they're silly - if it was a rule made via a board resolution, bring up proposals to tweak or drop it. If it's a CCR, you need homeowner approval, so if you're not willing to do the work to educate the homeowners on why the change is necessary, sit down and shaddup.

3. Board members are expected to show up for board meetings on time and prepared to participate in addressing the agenda items. If you can't make it because of an emergency, let someone know what's going on as soon as possible. If you have another committment, be an adult and give the others a heads up. If your life has evolved to where it's hard for you to attend regular meetings, say so and resign gracefully - no one will blame you.

In sum, do what you say you're going to do, when you're going to do it, and do it right. If you can't or aren't willing to do any of that, do yourself and everyone else a favor and say so from the jump!

As far as the previous board members are concerned, you could invite them to the meeting if only to provide information on whatever they were doing as well as turn over important documents, if appropriate. If they try to turn this into a bitch session, remind them politely but firmly you're not here for all that - this is about ensuring an quick and effective transition so the board can continue to do its work (besides they had their chance to do the right thing and didn't - which is why they're now previous board members!) If they don't want to act accordingly, they should drop off their materials and leave.

Thanks, y’all!

(Last week or so someone suggested that others might be interested in hearing about this. For misc reasons I haven’t discussed the matter a lot here - but if anyone has any questions, please ask. Otherwise I’ll keep mum).

I’m happy about how things turned out. A bit sad that the ex-Prez didn’t take the hint and just step down, and so he suffered a certain amount of humiliation. He kept saying “I’ll step down if you want” but kept raising objections or trying to head down rabbit holes or otherwise delay the matter. But we stayed focused and brought the matter to a close.

(Oh, the Subject: line is from an old Emerson, Lake & Palmer song. Funny what sticks in yer head in the evening)

BillD

Hm, I only have one ELP album - Works, volume 1. I might have gone with their version of Fanfare for the Common Man

Congrats. If you read any of my posts, our HOA President is narcissistic piece of donky you know what. He has been serving for over 2 decades and believe he is God and owns our community.

I'm not familiar with Edward's posts, either. Why not start a new thread. Tell us if you're on the board, size of your HOA, when your next annual meeting & elections will be, etc?

Expecting that the Association is incorporated, most are, Corporate statutes apply and specify how board members can be removed.
Typically, only the membership can remove an elected Director and the Board can remove an appointed Director.

Recall in non-profits in CA must adhere to CA Corporations Code. so chain our bylaws won't help?

I've noticed you've compared non-profits to for -profits Orgs (i.e., "businesses) and to public organs. It's logical to stick with non profit laws. What o FL laws say about recall, Thad? Or your bylaws? What % of owners does it take to change your Bylaws?

congradulations bill!

congradulations bill!

Thad's objective is to remove power from the BOD.

I have seen things vary and it is often tied to corporate statutes on the number to recall.

However, the covenants or bylaws specify the number of signatures to hold a special meeting of the membership.

Typically, once there are enough signatures to hold a meeting, then the number of people who actually show up and cast a ballot isn't relevant except for quorum purposes. A majority vote will typically remove a director.

Perhaps you intended to say amend the documents to adjust what is needed for a quorum.

I get it. I don't have any Deep Thoughts on it except that

- sometimes the rules work in your favor; and

- sometimes they don't.

Okay, I'll toss this in, too: sometimes ya go through X amount of grief to change the rules, only to find the opposition screwing you even *harder* with the new rules. My point being to put a LOT of thought and work into developing and deciding the changes you want to implement. If you're looking at change, it can be extremely difficult to step back and examine the playing field from your opponent's POV. But you really want to try to do that. My only practical advice is getting more brains on the problem.

I know this is very hand-wavy high-level pollyanna 'advice'. But I've had the rug pulled out from under me. It's not fun.

BillD