Hearing took place for noisy neighbor, does it sound like she was fined?

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DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131

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I didn’t end up going, the mgmt office suggested I shouldn’t go & I don’t get along with the neighbor I have been complaining about. The hearing took place as a conference call this past Friday, I could hear through the walls very faintly because she had the call on speakerphone. The only thing I could make out was a hearing committee member saying “I feel terrible…” I couldn’t hear the rest. After the call, the neighbor went outside and paced up and down the block for about 15 min. She is one to do stupid stuff in front of my camera by the front door, she didn’t do anything. However, around 11 pm that night she came home with a guy. This guy has visited a few times and has never looked at my camera. However, this time he looked into my camera and flicked me off. I had a police report and 2 security reports that were given to the committee, that would’ve assisted with them going ahead and fining the owner/passing fee down to the neighbor. From this, does it sound like the fine was sent?

JohnT38 (South Carolina)
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I'm really starting to wonder if you are just messing with us for fun or attention?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059

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2nd time you asked that question, see Subject: Follow-Up: Hearing scheduled tomorrow, would it hurt me if I don’t attend?

It sounds like your neighbor doesn't know the outcome (I suspect that the board would deliberate and then make a ruling) but is ticked at you that it came to this and the friend is projecting the anger your neighbor has.

My suggestion, regardless of the outcome - move on with life. Be cordial when you see them.

BTW, if you can hear the teleconference through the wall, you may want to look into adding some soundproofing to your unit (as your neighbor can likely hear you as well). Some suggestions on soundproofing:

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DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131

Posted:

The first question I was asking if it’ll hurt if I don’t go. And this one, I’m asking if it sounds like they’ll fine her owner based off the camera footage from this jerk/her pacing up and down outside. The mgmt office didn’t say that it would take past the meeting for a decision to be made, they would have made a decision at the end

LoriM15 (Florida)
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1. Did you call the management office and ask about the outcome? Why ask us here when none of us would know?

2. The fact that you had your ear to the wall during the conference call and then watched your neighbor pace up and down for 15 minutes PLUS that fact that you know which guys go in and out of her apartment shows that you are absolutely obsessed with your neighbor. One thing to complain about noise and another to monitor her life when she isn't making noise. This is stalking behavior. You need professional help.

LetA (Nevada)
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The management office will not tell you the outcome because that part is private. Based on your reply and the neighbors subsequent behavior, I would hazard to guess they did not like the outcome.

My suggestion is to file a police report on this latest incident and on the report add that this is retaliation. With all that has transpired, you need to hire a lawyer and go after the unit owner.
You may not be filing a lawsuit, but spending $1000-$2500.00 for peace of mind is far worth more than selling your unit, moving and taking on a larger mortgage.
YOU ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT HERE. You can either fly the plane level and land or crash it into the ground.

DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131

Posted:

1) Office is closed until Tue for the holiday
2) Kick rocks

DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131

Posted:

I can ask how it went, I was told to request the hearing minutes which will mention if the owner was fined or not. Filing a police report for harassment because my camera was flicked off? If they get confrontational to my face that’s a different story

JohnT38 (South Carolina)
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Posted By LetA on 05/29/2022 7:12 PM
The management office will not tell you the outcome because that part is private. Based on your reply and the neighbors subsequent behavior, I would hazard to guess they did not like the outcome.

My suggestion is to file a police report on this latest incident and on the report add that this is retaliation. With all that has transpired, you need to hire a lawyer and go after the unit owner.
You may not be filing a lawsuit, but spending $1000-$2500.00 for peace of mind is far worth more than selling your unit, moving and taking on a larger mortgage.
YOU ARE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT HERE. You can either fly the plane level and land or crash it into the ground.

Based on the OP's previous posts and what she has written on another web site, telling her to hire a lawyer is not good advice. She has escalated any real problem that may have existed by openly retaliating and stalking her neighbor. If she is not careful she will end up on the wrong side of the law.

I am no longer convinced that any of this is real and that all of us may have been played. If it is real, my suggestion for Danielle is to seek professional help quickly.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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Now that it has been asked again... The tenant does NOT get fined. Why is like you have been told this before over an over again. THE TENANT DOES NOT GET FINED THE LANDLORD/HOA MEMBER DOES. This does NOT equal eviction of the tenant. It does NOT equal they pay the fine. It just is the landlord is given notice there is an issue within their property to address. They may not have any powers to evict their tenant for it. There is something called "Tenant's rights". Which if this violation isn't in THEIR rental agreement, it is NOT grounds for eviction.

There are multiple scenarios that could happen in reaction. My best guess is the landlord pays the fine. It is up to them to pass it along to their tenant or not. There are no laws the forces this to happen unless it's in their rental agreement. Even then, the fine amount may be so trivial that it's not worth being upset about. Our HOA only fines $50 for a violation. Not enough to get upset over.

So I would suggest STOP listening to the walls. That is crossing a line and making you sound a bit more in need of mental assistance. You are causing your own problems at this point. Since your taking such an active approach to listen in and observe what your neighbor is doing. Plus you put the camera in a public place it can be flicked off. It's kind of rude to be using one in the first place.

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DanielleG4 (Florida)
Posts: 131

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This is a follow up post after the hearing took place, my last post was me asking if me not attending would negatively affect me. I’m well aware for the last time that she isn’t being fined, the owner is and he will or will not pass it down to her

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836

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So you keep poking the bear and wonder why the bear pokes back?

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CassyM (New York)
Posts: 9

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I want to read backstory, how it started

CassyM (New York)
Posts: 9

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I want to read backstory, how it started

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836

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Cassy there are a few old posts covering this "drama". Who knows how it started. It just needs to end at this point. It is the same optional results time after time. It does not include eviction by the HOA or landlord.

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SheliaH (Indiana)
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Posted By CassyM on 05/30/2022 10:03 PM
I want to read backstory, how it started

The search button (upper right side) should be able to pull them up - may want to search by the OP's name. And you might want to have some aspirin handy because reading all of them may result in a massive headache.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964

Posted:

Excuse, that's the other right side.....

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414

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You could follow up with management to see the outcome. Regardless of whether she was fined or not, she is clearly upset.

I would suggest doing your best to avoid contact as long as she's not committing anymore infractions, and yes maybe do something about soundproofing if you are able to hear conversations. That's a bad setup for both parties.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059

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Posted By CassyM on 05/30/2022 10:03 PM
I want to read backstory, how it started

Here it is.
Please do not respond to any of them as this thread is the latest.

Subject: Can the HOA really do much with noisy neighbors in a condo complex? 6/3/2021

Subject: What is the likelihood of a landlord keeping a noisy tenant that’s causing fines? 6/5/2021

Subject: Should I get ready to move and find new place due to noisy neighbor? 6/8/2021

Subject: I’m building noise complaint case with the HOA, why would police side with noisy neighbor?/a> 6/11/2021

Subject: Do owners have leverage when complaining about a tenant and their noise? 6/23/2021

Subject: Update on my noisy neighbor, is it looking a little brighter? 7/28/2021

Subject: Help, my noisy neighbor is leaving trash by my door? 8/17/2021

Subject: My upstairs neighbor is retaliating against me, advice? 9/7/2021

Subject: If the HOA fails to address an ongoing neighborly noise dispute, can you withhold paying condo fees? 1/1/2022

Subject: Follow up with noisy upstairs neighbor, any other suggestions I’ve tried everything? 2/27/2022

Subject: Ongoing noise dispute with upstairs neighbor, can video footage of her being offensive towards me help my case? 3/11/2022

Subject: Can a small fee due to violating noise ordinance actually make a difference? 3/22/2022

Subject: Venting about the usual shared living space noises, really trying to get why people are this noisy on a consistent basis? 3/30/2022

Subject: What’s the likelihood of the HOA board not fining for noise complaint even after supporting documentation is provided? 4/26/2022

Subject: Should an owner attend a hearing to testify against the tenant they’re complaining about? 5/2/2022

Subject: Update on ongoing feud with noisy upstairs neighbor, provided police report to office & Mgr says it’s looking more hopeful? 5/9/2022

Subject: Another update on feud with noisy neighbor, I called her landlord & he wasn’t aware of any of this. Does it sounds like he lying? 5/17/2022

Subject: If you have supporting documentation against noisy neighbor & they're now complaining about you slamming your front door, can this be a hindrance? 5/18/2022

Subject: To those think I’m exaggerating with my noisy neighbor & her tv being loud, below is the link to video. Would you consider this loud enough to have th 5/20/2022

Subject: Follow-Up: Hearing scheduled tomorrow, would it hurt me if I don’t attend? 5/26/2022

And of course, this current thread started on 5/29/2022

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059

Posted:

Danielle,

I know this has been a major issue for you. Everyone wants to enjoy their home without constant frustrations over things that impact that enjoyment.

Regardless of the outcome of the hearing (and I hope you post the results, if you are informed of them), I hope this process has helped resolve things for you and allowed you to better to enjoy your home.

Tim

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