response to request for owner mailing addresses

Hmmm,,

Ok, the managing agent replied. Please see below, the top section is the request I sent. her response is below. and she attached highlighted sections of 82.114

Hello DE++++++

Please see below. The list you sent me was just a unit number with owner name.

In an email sent Thursday April 21, 2022.

Pursuant to TPC 82.1141, BO 22.352, and Bylaw Article IV, section 3.(l) I requested the owner name and mailing address of for each unit. So far
what the Association has sent me appears to be the name and address of each unit titled in an owner's name. A number of owners here rent their
units to tenants. In this case, I expect the mailing address that the Association uses is different from the unit's address. Also TPC 82.114 (e)
requires unit owners to provide to the Association their "mailing address." It is clear to me that "mailing address" means the address to which
the Association sends mail to an owner, as provided to the Association by the owner.

I am asking again: Please provide the name and mailing address of each unit owner.

Sincerely,
Las++++

Hello las******

Pursuant to TPC 82-1141 it specifically states that the Association is not required to release or allow inspection of books & records that identifies a unit owner’s contact information or unit owner’s address. This section is highlighted on the attachment.

Thank you and have a great day.

LaskaS, see BenA2's post in your other recent thread, along with my response. It turns out TPC 82.1141 does not apply to pre-1994 condos.

I suggest writing the following:

Dear Board and Manager,

I beg your pardon. Texas Property Code Section 82.002 (c) indicates that TPC Section 82.1141 does not apply to pre-1994 condominium associations. This condominium is a pre-1994 condominium. Pursuant to TPC 82.114, BO 22.352 and Bylaw Article IV Section 3 (l), please provide a time when I may inspect the member list, that shows the names of members and their mailing addresses.

In addition, Texas Property Code 82.114(c) requires an annual, independent audit of the records listed in TPC 82.114(a) and that this audit be available to owners. I also request a time when I may inspect the last annual audit of the records.

My purpose is to be able to communicate with other owners about the condominium's operations.

Thank you,

name
address
phone number
email addie

BenA2 and I just saved you $1000 of attorney fees.

Post-o. This should be BO 22.351.

As always, I guarantee nothing.

Augustine,

My question. as you may recall, didn't comply with the new law adopted last year.

It required all associations to adopt a records and retention policy by sep 1 2021.

As of the meeting last week. the board agreed to adopt a policy. however, that requires filling and then sending notice to all owners.
I believe it doesn't take effect until 30 days after it is mailed to owners.

My original request for the name and mailing address was made before the board adopted the records and retention policy.

If, as augustin stated, we don't fall under 82.114, because we are governed by 81. Then do i have the right to the name and mailing address?

Once the records and retention policy is adopted,, I believe our association will be governed by 82.114..

this clause is included in the new policy..

This Document Retention Policy replaces and supersedes any previous records
retention policy, if any, adopted by the Association.

what about this clause. Information may be released in an aggregate or summary manner that would not identify an individual unit owner.
Hopefully this allows for a complete association member list with associated mailing addresses,, but without designation as to which unit is owned by who. Or am i misinterpreting what aggregate or summary manner means.?

augustine,,

this site states that 82.114 c does apply to condominiums before 94.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/property-code/prop-sect-82-002.html

You're like watching a Alabama Senate debate.

Texas Property Code has a section 82.114 and a section 82.1141 . They are two different sections.

Also please read my lengthy response to BenA2's post.

This is not what I said.

At this point, you should be using the following to check TPC 82:

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PR/htm/PR.82.htm

ok.. well. thanks for all the help.

I requested the name and mailing address in good faith.. based on my research and understanding of what an owners rights where.

I was denied and given the reason. If that reason is valid, I will accept it.

One question..

can you tell me what the meaning is of..

this phrase at the end of82.114(j) Information may be released in an aggregate or summary manner that would not identify an individual unit owner.

what would an aggregate name and mailing list be comprised of?

good news. I can still access the information from the harris county tax records. I will have to find a program that will download all files at a particular address and download them in csv. then i can import in to excel..