Need examples of before and after CCR's updated

I am googling and can't find a single before and after example of CCR's being updated. Seems like this common information should be available or have all the HOA lawyers that specialize in this somehow monopolized the market. can anyone please share their before and after CCR's online so I can look?

This will help people see what common issues that need to be addressed. If your answer is CCR's are so unique that each neighborhood needs to be customized I already know that. CCR's are also very similar so it goes both ways.

Please only reply if you can show me actual example. not interested in anyone's opinion on the matter. just actual factual document examples.

yep

or if you know of a lawyer that specilizes in this please post thier info and I can ask them for examples

Posting rules forbid naming individuals, companies, communities, etc.

There should also be dates as to when the revisions become effective - if it's revised several times, you go with what's most recent.

When I don't understand is why you haven't asked the ASSOCIATION ATTORNEY for samples of what the revisions look like. As you know, amending documents isn't a matter of changing a few words here and there - the words you use do make a difference and you want all of this to stand up in court. And since your revisions will affect YOUR community, it really doesn't matter what revisions in other communities look like.

If you're going to revise your documents, you might want to go to the CAI website which has educational materials on how this is done - it may even have some samples you can look at.

I think all of LoriM15's post is excellent, substantive advice. As far as how to proceed is concerned, this in particular got my attention:-- If I were on a Florida HOA/COA Board and the HOA/COA needed to update its governing documents, I would be happy to learn that some Florida HOA attorneys have a template.

-- I would recommend to the Board that one or two of us directors sit down with the old but current Declaration and the attorney's template. I would go through the old Declaration, in order, and mark on the template where each item in the current Declaration should fit on the template. If the item did not fit anywhere on the template, it's deleted or reserved for further discussion with the attorney. I might even have a spreadsheet listing each item in the current Declaration and in what section it fits on the template.

-- I think the above represents a systematic approach that will cover all legal bases (to date).

-- Of note: Texas, Florida and California all have changed their HOA/COA statutes meaningfully just in the last few years. The changes are not even pandemic-driven.

-- Like others here, I do not buy that seeking old, no longer valid, Declarations and comparing them to even recently amended versions would nail the solution to the problem. But if the OP insists, one can google using searches like the following:

"amended declaration" "florida" "homeowners association" site:filetype:pdf

With a lot of study, this turns up sites with before and after docs like:

http://www.suntreeflorida.com/view/public-documents.aspx

https://www.myjacarandawest.com/hoa/hoa-documents/

To fast forward a bit, and for my own curiosity: What did it take to get approval of the owners of this restatement?

Isn't there some cliché that describes how LoriM15's former board went through? Something like, "Better to just buy a new car instead of keep pouring money into a car in great disrepair, with uncertainty about other, older parts that have not so far been repaired/replaced?"

"Throwing good money after bad"?

From the net: The sunk-cost fallacy describes our tendency to throw good money after bad. Just because you've already spent money on something doesn't mean you should continue spending money on it.

Is that how you like to lead, make it as difficult for owners to obtain legitimate records? I would defineitely find some one to replace you.

I'll second the motion.

Interesting what were the most important updates? Capital contributions when a home is bought was increased? didnt' that piss off new owners? What rental rules were customized?

did you lower the amount needed to get quorum or elect a new board, or other common complaints about how hard it is to get people involved I read about all the time?

because we've never had any revisions. I went to CAI website and didnt' see any relevant books or other educational materials. the goal is to see what items are typically updated and see if those updates would be a good fit for our community. For example lowering the % of owners needed to meet quorum.

1. We didn't believe that raising the capital contribution for new owners was going to effect sales in the community at all. New buyers don't know what the old buyers paid. We checked what other communities in our area were charging. It's an easy way to get a small amount of income without having to raise monthly fees. Houses in our community are priced high enough that the extra amount wasn't going to make a significant difference to them.

2. We didn't need to make a change to our quorum section because it had previously been lowered to 30% of the membership present in person or by proxy.

3. We raised the dollar amount of money the board could spend on new projects (not maintenance) to $100,000 without approval of membership. Things like the $60k we spent on upgrading the tennis courts already did not need member approval because their were renovations, not construction.

4. We increased the deposit that a landlord (owner) has to have on file to cover association damage to $500.

I don't think we made any other substantive changes - most of the other changes were just to get us in line with the current statute.

We had a very amicable transition from Declarant to we owners. As a matter of fact, our Declarant Appointed BOD came up with several Bylaws we asked the Declarant to change as he had the "super" votes to do so before turnover:

1. Reduce Annual Meeting Quorum from 50% to 20%.
2. Annual Meeting to be held on or before 04/15 versus the prior fixed day.
3. Allow Proxies. Not allowed before.
4. Remove Cumulative Voting. Cumulative voting was allowed before

Our docs are still full of references to the Declarant but those things can be "read through" thus not worth the cost to redo.