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TV (Washington)
Posts: 122
Posted:
hello

we have a unit owner whose unit is gutted, and the are making "improvements" to
unit common areas (add can lights), etc using owners efforts or presumed handiman.

never asked permission of the board.

our lawyer send them a stop work order already

we want the unit owner to stop, get work inspected and comply with using licensed and bonded contractor for any work being done in unit.

what is best way to get compliance?

use code enforcement
threaten or use lawsuit
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
Posted:
Code enforcement usually refers to a city enforcing its own regulations. What do you mean by "code enforcement"?

In my experience: The HOA/COA should have the HOA/COA attorney seek emergency injunctive relief. Locate the clause in your governing documents that allows the HOA/COA to bill the owner for the attorney fees for the lawsuit (to get injunctive relief).

Does your HOA/COA have a fine schedule for violations of the governing documents?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Avoid lawsuits period. Our HOA rules allows the HoA to fix the violations and send the owner the bill. That means you tell the owner to correct the violation or the HOA will hire someone to do it at whatever rate they choose. That bill will then be sent to them. If left unpaid then the HOA can lien for that money

A lien has way more teeth than a lawsuit. They can sell till they pay the lien. A lawsuit they can. Plus you lose more money that route if you let a lawyer lead you by the nose. A good lawyer knows a lien will work but do not always tell you that option.

So get it approved first or remove from common area. A fine schedule can be used as well but liens can not be filed based on fines in most states.

Former HOA President
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I wouldn't skip the lawsuit. I understand Melissa's point about liens, but it could take years before this homeowner decides to sell and in many areas, liens have to be renewed after a certain period, which adds to the association's legal costs. If you haven't discussed anything else with the association attorney beyond the stop work order, you really need to do that right now - in fact, all of that should have been discussed BEFORE the letter was sent so you'd know your options are if the owner ignored it or told the association to kick rocks.

It will be great if code enforcement takes care of this - nothing's preventing you from filing that complaint in addition to taking legal action. In fact that might be faster - stop orders from the city can lead to more drama for the owner if he/she tells IT to shove it. That said, don't hesitate to take legal action if this doesn't get resolved sooner rather than later.

You don't say what type of improvements this homeowner is trying to make, so start there. What he/she does inside the house is likely up to them, but if any outside work is affecting the common areas, you've already taken the first step in having your attorney send a stop-work order. If the work requires a permit from the city or county and the owner (or the contractor, whoever that is) can't come up with one, that's where you should file a complaint with code enforcement. The building code may also require certain work be done by licensed contractors, so be sure to ask for written verifiable proof of there - if they can't or refuse to, add that to the code enforcement complaint.

It makes sense to want the work done by licensed and bonded contractors, but if that's not written in your documents, there could be a problem, so take a good look. If the CCRs allow the board to pass additional rules (which can't contradict or supersede the documents), this may be something the board should add by drafing it and approving it through a board resolution passed during a regular board meeting. There should be an effective date and the rules should be sent to all homeowners so they know what to expect. While you're at it, remind homeowners certain exterior changes require prior approval by the board and explain that process.

PS: If you do wind up in court, be sure that your lawsuit requests that the owner reimburse the association for all legal fees (court costs attorneys fees, etc.) in addition to mandating the work be done by a licensed and bonded contractor (although code enforcement may take care of that part for you). Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Clarify. Not saying you may not need to. Sue. Just slow your roll and find out what powers your HOA does or does not have. Each state and HOA is different. My HOA can do the lien process. Other HOA it may not do this. It may allow to fine.

Just do not have mindset that a lawsuit is the only option. A lawyer can say to you "I will do whatever you tell me to do". That my friend is a dangerous phrase. If you do not know what to do then you could find yourselves in a hole.

Former HOA President
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Note that this appears to be a condo unit. Also TV may have used the wrong word for the ceiling lights by saying they're in the "Common area."

If the CC&Rs require that HOA approval must occur, for example, when new electrical is needed, AND your documents have a mechanism for fining the Owners, proceed right away with calling them to a hearing or whatever "due process" is required. Assuming your docs permit, instruct him to cure his violation by following the correct Board-approved procedures for architectural changes. Levy fines if your docs permit.

It's possible your docs do not require licensed contractors, but they may require local codes be followed.

Can you tell us more about your HOA's requirements for Architectural changes?

A later from your counsel seems good. but I'd use your HOA's own disciplinary methods too. Right away.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TV on 04/07/2022 7:11 AM

what is best way to get compliance?

use code enforcement
threaten or use lawsuit

If the stop work request from the attorney didn't work, you use everything.

Certified mail specifying that the improvements are unapproved and will require removal and restoration of common elements.

Start legal action (sometimes you must start the legal process for the owner to comprehend).

If fines are allowed (authorized by covenants), start fining for the hope of filing lien to keep the owner from passing the issue on to the next owner.

Contact the city to have them check on permits.

Basically, if the association is being ignored, become a pain in the tuchus until the association isn't ignored.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I feel I misread TV's post now that I read the subject line again. Please clarify. Just where are these can lights being installed? Outside of the unit in a common area? Or inside the unit?

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Good point. In fact, I've noticed some of TV's questions from past posts always seem to be rather short on details - you don't necessarily need a ton, but there should be enough where you have a good idea of what's going on, so suggestions are more complete

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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