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AudreyB (Florida)
Posts: 104
Posted:
My HOA is in FL.

I found out at the Annual Meeting that the Boad is not in the habit of filing an income tax form every year. They believe, since we are a not for-profit-corporation, they are exempt from doing so.

As a former Board member from years ago, I remember, if the Board has is not ever filed an income tax form, they shouldn't ever start. From memory mind you, the reason is, IRS will wonder where are the other years of income tax returns are, and IRS will audit the Association.

Is this still how it is today?

The issues are two fold:

First, the President wants to send hurricane victims a monetary donation ($50). I do not see any where that it is written in our legal documents, that we can do that. I told the President if it isn't writen within our documents then we cannot send a donation. I also informed the President, if the Association is not in the habit of filing an income tax return every year, then you still cannot send in a donation. According to our Newsletter, the President is not listening to me, and will discuss this issue at the November 7th Board meeting.

If it is not written in our legal documents, can the Association make donations to any organization?

If the Association could make donations, does the Association have to file an income tax form for their donation of $50 or higher?

If the Association does have to file an tax form, and this being the first one, can this cause an IRS audit?

Second,the Board handed out $7,500 worth of their so called "legalized gifts" via our yearly dues to themselves and members of their committees, at our Annual Meeting. Really, the amount is $7,400, because I have no intentions on cashing my hundred dollar check. I have a more "legalized" use for it instead.

Doesn't the Association have to claim the $7,400 gifts to the IRS?
If so, would this cause the IRS to audit our Association?

The President believes: "Gifts" are not income to those who recieve,
and do not have to claim on their taxes. Nor, does the Association have to claim "gifts" on their taxes either.

I would hate to fine out from the IRS's audit, that our Association owes back taxes with interest. Guess who the Association looks to pay the IRS those back taxes? The homeowner's! They would have to be assessed for those back taxes, and many who live here, live on a fixed income.

Please, if you know how to help me with any of these issues, or have experienced something like this with your own Association and how they handled any one of these issues, please let me know.

I appreciate and value your time too.

Thank you very much,
Audrey

hoatalk (California)
Posts: 603
Posted:
It appears the answer is, yes, your HOA needs to file a tax return. It's time for your HOA to talk to a local CPA, but here's some information to get you started:

Have a look at the topic called, "Tax Returns" here:
http://hoatalk.com/Forum/tabid/55/view/topic/forumid/1/postid/201/Default.aspx
You can also find it on page 2 of the forum listing.

Search Google.com for information on "IRS Form 1120-H". This form is called, "U.S. Income Tax Return for Homeowners Associations". You can see the form here:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1120h.pdf

You may also be able to file IRS form 1120, if you can be considered a "nonexempt membership organization". I believe this carries a lower tax rate.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1120.pdf

In addition, Have a look at the Florida Statutes, Chapter 720:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0720/ch0720.htm

Here you find a clue:
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(4) OFFICIAL RECORDS.--The association shall maintain each of the following items, when applicable, which constitute the official records of the association:

...

3. All tax returns, financial statements, and financial reports of the association.
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It looks like the state expects there to be tax returns, since they list them here.

I hope this helps.
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AudreyB (Florida)
Posts: 104
Posted:
Audrey says,"Thank you,you are awesome!"
HankL
Posts: 47
Posted:
My HOA lost it's corporate status and maybe it's name by failing to file properly in MD. You need a CPA who specialized in HOAs. Non-profit has nothing to do with it. The gifts are misappropriation by my guess.

I randomly chose two homes from those that had no gigs on the annual maintenance inspection. A $50 and a $25 gift card were provided to those randomly chosen owners.

No gifts unless they are truly nominal should be accepted by any officer. I put out several hundred dollars of my money for food and drinks at the Annual Meeting, hoping to finally get a quorum as opposed to the prior Boardmembers. It worked. Next year will be pot luck I suppose.

Do not let the Board or Committees deviate from being volunteers, which it seems at this point they are not.

Hank
AudreyB (Florida)
Posts: 104
Posted:
Hi Hank,

Thank you for your words of wisdom. I hope you don't mind if I borrow them to use in Tallahassee. I'm trying to keep my Board as well as their Committee's as "unpaid volunteers."

I am for whatever works,too. Let us know how the pot luck does at your next Annual Meeting.

Take care,
Audrey
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
HOA's are not exempt from filing taxes. Each Association needs to file Federal and State Income taxes. The Federal tax can be done without using a CPA or even a tax consultant by anyone who can read the instructions of federal Form 1120-H. 1120-H tax is calculated by multiplying 30% on the income from interest, yield, and/or dividends earned less deductables, including the $100 standard deduction, the previous year's state tax, and any costs involved in managing investments. Or by using Form 1120 which is more complex but taxes at 15% (for most HOA's using 1120-H is usually the best option). I complete the taxes forms at no charge for the HOA's I manage, it takes about 5 minutes.

Disclaimer: I am not a CPA or a tax consultant.
RichardB35 (Missouri)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Just an added note. HOA's that don't file timely tax returns may be forfeiting their chance to use Form 1120-H and that could force them to use Form 1120 which could have a dramatically different result.

There is no statute of limitations for non-filers.

Get all delinquent tax returns filed as soon as possible.
MarkM31 (Washington)
Posts: 494
Posted:
11 year old post you responded to

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