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JimA19 (Georgia)
Posts: 54
Posted:
my HOA Board are considering a bylaw change to prohibit people using incontenance products from the pool. beyond being very difficult to police does anyone know if we are violating senior government policies or laws?
JimA19 (Georgia)
Posts: 54
Posted:
OK so i cant spell- incontinence products
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
Posted:
I think such a prohibition would be discriminating on the basis of disability and so be a violation of the Fair Housing Act. Here's the best bottom l ine I found on the subject, so far, from an attorney in 2017, on the subject of pools, incontinent folks and diapers:

The larger take away here is that all community associations need to proceed with caution when considering the adoption of... restrictions which could have a disparate impact on persons with disabilities. Such restrictions come with the inherent risk of a potential [Fair Housing} discrimination complaint being filed by [with HUD and state FHA agencies] by a resident.

Full discussion:
All community associations need to be aware of the various requirements contained in the federal Fair Housing Act (FHA). The FHA prohibits discrimination based upon "familial status," which generally involves having children, and based upon qualifying disabilities. An alleged FHA violation committed by a community association is subject to investigation and potential penalties imposed by HUD and the administrative law judges who adjudicate HUD complaints, as well as potential action in federal court.

I located a few cases which address the application of the FHA to pool restrictions involving children. In the 1992 case of HUD v. Paradise Gardens, Section II, Homeowners Association, et al., the covenants for a Margate, Florida community association prohibited children under the age of 5 from using the swimming pool and further restricted children between the ages of 5 and 16 from using the pool from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. each day. One of the association’s justifications for the restrictions was the possible threat of fecal material in the pool.

The covenants were found to be discriminatory against families with children and the association was fined in excess of $7,000. The administrative law judge, who issued the opinion, made reference to the policy reasons why the FHA was amended in 1988 by Congress, including the fact that a study found that more than 50 percent of all rental units either prohibit or restrict residency by children. Further, the decision confirmed that the association offered no evidence to suggest that the restrictions were established for health and safety reasons.

In contrast, HUD offered testimony from an environmental specialist who testified that there is no health reason to exclude children of any age from a pool and that a healthy and clean pool can be maintained regardless of the ages of those who enter the pool. The expert further opined that there was no correlation between the age of the swimmers and the sanitariness of the pool.

In the 1993 case of HUD v. Pine Ridge at Lake Tarpon Village I, et al., a rule for a Tarpon Springs, Florida condominium association stated “…due to the potential for contamination of the pool all babies and small children not fully potty trained may not enter or be carried into the pool.”

The rule was found to be discriminatory and the rule was ordered to be changed to “... any person who is incontinent or not fully potty trained must wear appropriate waterproof clothing when entering or being carried into the pool.”

The association was required to pay $1,500 to the residents who pursued the discrimination complaint for their inconvenience and emotional distress.

These cases, of course, apply to age-specific swimming pool restrictions and did not specifically involve a broader ban on all incontinent persons from using the swimming pool. Notwithstanding, portions of the analysis of these cases could have application to an age-neutral swimming pool ban on all incontinent persons. Further, if a rule is predicated on a health and safety concern, the subject concern needs to be clearly identified and justifiable.

A ban on all swim diapers could very well lead to a HUD complaint or lawsuit against the association based upon familial status and/or disability. The reviewing court will likely consider whether there are less restrictive measures (e.g. the possibility of installing ultraviolet or ozone disinfecting systems to purify the water, etc.) which could possibly be pursued in lieu of adopting a total ban.

The larger take away here is that all community associations need to proceed with caution when considering the adoption of child-specific restrictions or restrictions which could have a disparate impact on persons with disabilities. Such restrictions come with the inherent risk of a potential discrimination complaint being filed by a resident. Community association boards are encouraged to consult with the association attorney before adopting these restrictions and boards should also consider whether there are less restrictive means to accomplish the desired objective.


https://www.naplesnews.com/story/money/real-estate/2017/12/16/can-incontinent-persons-and-swim-diapers-banned-pool/933984001/
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I'm sure Augustin's citations are important.

So far as we learned in our HOA you can make a rule that such products must be used. But we cannot ban she users from our pools. You also can post a notice (at least in CA) that those with diarrhea or who are ill should not use the pool(s). No matter what, enforcement is the issue.

I think, Jim, that the place for any such rule is to in the Bylaws but in your Rules & Regulations
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
People use these products do it so they CAN use the pool and not have an accident that would create a health hazard that shuts down the pool altogether, so you don't need to ban the people. It's easier and more appropriate to require swim diapers for that reason - and I suspect this may be more of a problem with parents who don't take steps for their children as opposed to the adults.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JimA19 (Georgia)
Posts: 54
Posted:
actually in the bylaws, thanks.
JimA19 (Georgia)
Posts: 54
Posted:
folks, thank you, these responses are most helpful
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
I agree with what others have said here. You cannot ban these people from the pool, but you can ask that anyone who has been ill not get into the water.

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