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TomP11 (California)
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I thought everyone had to follow the same rules? I guess I was wrong in assuming that. If you look at past post you can see my fight with my HOA over solar. They were making it extremely difficult to install solar to a point where legal had to get involved. I did get it installed but I ended up missing out on the summer months of sunlight. I was the first one so I have to take one for the team.

Well, the HOA let another owner install solar following none of the rules. In fact, they did not have to submit an Architectural Application. The rules are still in palace because another owner is going through the process of installing solar. I am happy the work that I put in is making it easier for them, but they still have to follow the rules. Is it proper procedure that only select owners have to follow the rules?

Would it be wrong for me to request my Architectural Application fee back, to remove my HOA from my insurance, and increase the tilt on my panels? Or at least not have to submit another Architectural Application? I want to get two more panels installed before Net Metering 3.0 happens.

One of the questions is how do you know they did not submit an Architectural Application or not following the rules? All of the Architectural Applications are online and discussed during meetings. And the angle is 6% max.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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If you are concerned that someone did not get prior approval, report them to the board.

You were the first and made it easier for others. You should be proud of that.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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If your HOA charged you a fee and did not charge others the same fee, then yes they should refund the fee you paid.
AugustinD
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Posted By TomP11 on 01/15/2022 5:26 PM
Would it be wrong for me to request my Architectural Application fee back, to remove my HOA from my insurance, and increase the tilt on my panels? Or at least not have to submit another Architectural Application? I want to get two more panels installed before Net Metering 3.0 happens.
As long as you are happy to risk more conflict (and possibly huge liability by dropping the required insurqance), then the above is exactly what you should do.
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
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If others did not submit an Architectural Application for the same project, then this is an example of select enforcement. It's not allowed.

You'll want to speak with your board about the problem before you do anything else.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By MarshallT on 01/17/2022 6:15 AM
If others did not submit an Architectural Application for the same project, then this is an example of select enforcement. It's not allowed.

Selective enforcement generally isn't prohibited.
It certainly isn't wise to do so and all Associations should try to avoid it if possible.
If the issue blows up and goes to court, the Association wouldn't want selective enforcement raised in court as it can hurt them.

Boards may enforce rules/covenants when a complaint is received. This can result in selective enforcement but it's not the boards fault for doing so. It would depend if neighbors are concerned enough to report a violation.

Members are allowed to enforce violations through the courts and they do not have to enforce it on everyone, just the one they are complaining about. This could be called selective enforcement and is permissible.

Selective enforcement is a defense a member can take. It doesn't mean that they are not in violation. It simply means that the believe that they are being singled out when others are not.
"Please identify the violators and the board would take appropriate action. Now lets discuss your violation (as the violation would have to exist to claim selective enforcement)".

AdamL1 (UnitedStates)
Posts: 559
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the "Selective Enforcement" discussion is interesting and is one that I still can't seem to get a solid understanding of.

Yes, nearly all HOA docs have language and terms in it that say something like "failure to enforce one thing does not mean the HOA is voiding all future enforcement" and blah blah blah, thus protecting them against selective enforcement...and it is a contract that you agreed to, to allow them to selectively enforce something

However, there are plenty of court cases that deal with selective enforcement.

How does one square this? Most articles and websites coach that an HOA effectively abandons a CCR if there's inconsistent, arbitrary, capricious enforcement.

I'm wondering if there's much definitive case law and precedence around the concept of selective enforcement.

https://www.hopb.co/blog/simply-unenforceable-hoa-covenants-and-how-they-can-go-too-far
- A validly enacted restriction is binding on homeowners “unless the restriction is arbitrary, imposes burdens on the use of lands it affects that substantially outweigh the restriction’s benefits to the development’s residents, or violates a fundamental public policy.” Nahrstedt v. Lakeside Village Condo. Ass’n., 8 Cal. 4th 361, 386 (1994).
- a covenant that fails any of these criteria will be unenforceable.
- a restriction that is arbitrary or places burdens on homeowners that are significantly greater than the potential benefits stands a strong risk of being found substantively invalid.
- Other examples of legislative statements of public policy include protections of religious displays (see, e.g., Tex. Prop. Code § 202.018(b); (765 ILCS 605/18.4) and California’s statutory guaranty that homeowners can keep at least one pet. Cal. Civ. Code §4715. A restriction that conflicts with these types of state laws is substantively invalid and therefore unenforceable.
- Even a validly enacted, substantively sound covenant can be nonetheless unenforceable if the HOA’s enforcement is procedurally improper, or is conducted inconsistently or for an inappropriate purpose. In general, a board’s exercise of its enforcement powers must be “procedurally fair and reasonable,” and its decisions must be made in “good faith … reasonable and not arbitrary and capricious.”
- If the court finds that the association’s enforcement efforts have in fact been arbitrary or inconsistent, the covenant or restriction will be unenforceable.
AugustinD
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Posted By AdamL1 on 01/18/2022 8:38 AM

However, there are plenty of court cases that deal with selective enforcement.

[redacted for brevity] Most articles and websites coach that an HOA effectively abandons a CCR if there's inconsistent, arbitrary, capricious enforcement.

I'm wondering if there's much definitive case law and precedence around the concept of selective enforcement.
By my reading of the case law --

-- Selective enforcement is raised as a defense often, but the case law (meaning appeals courts and higher) rarely finds in favor of the owner.

-- An owner's contention that covenants are abandoned seems to win more often than a claim of selective enforcement. And such a win is still not all that common.

-- The better articles speaking to covenant abandonment make the point that (1) a long period of time has to have passed, and (2) the abandonment of the covenant must be obvious by driving around the neighborhood. Said articles tend to reflect the case law I have seen.

-- AdamL1's citations seem to be largely California's approach. One thing I do not like about AdamL1's summary is the contention that it's easy to get rid of a covenant, whose origin is not an amendment, that seems unreasonable. By my reading, it's not. It's far easier to get a court to rule against an amendment to the covenants. Why? In short, because amendments are typically passed by only a super majority of owners and can result in a 'tyranny of the majority.' Nationwide, I believe the courts tend to say that amendments have to meet a higher standard. Per the courts, it seems that covenants that do not originate from an amendment are something of which 100% of owners had notice before buying. The courts think 100% consent/approval is important.

-- In short, I believe the case law tends to favor rigidly enforcing the original covenants. Over the decades, there has been a lot from appeals courts and higher speaking to why the courts think this is important.

-- The only serious exception to the above seems to be a covenant that violates fair housing law or possibly a covenant that is in a bona fide conflict with a state statute.
AdamL1 (UnitedStates)
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/18/2022 9:14 AM

-- The better articles speaking to covenant abandonment make the point that (1) a long period of time has to have passed, and (2) the abandonment of the covenant must be obvious by driving around the neighborhood. Said articles tend to reflect the case law I have seen.

-- In short, I believe the case law tends to favor rigidly enforcing the original covenants. Over the decades, there has been a lot from appeals courts and higher speaking to why the courts think this is important.


of course, the ideal state is to rigidly enforce the CCR's, but the problem statement is about what happens when they are not rigidly enforced. If they are selectively, arbitrarily, capriciously enforced.

I think most all stories of 'selective enforcement' could easily be backed by a history and obviousness. Just an example in my HOA: the CCR's say no basketball hoops in front yard (from 1995). Driving through the neighborhood, i'd estimate there's about 30% of homes have basketball hoops in the driveway....yet I was told that I was not allowed to install one because the CCR's say no. Seems like a clear cut case of selective/arbitrary/capricious enforcement.
AugustinD
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On the basketball hoops, from the facts presented, and assuming those with basketball hoops have not been issued violations (supposedly with fines accumulating), I would argue both selective enforcement and abandoned covenant.
AdamL1 (UnitedStates)
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/18/2022 12:02 PM
On the basketball hoops, from the facts presented, and assuming those with basketball hoops have not been issued violations (supposedly with fines accumulating), I would argue both selective enforcement and abandoned covenant.

I haven't heard of anyone getting a violation letter and definitely no fines issued (there's no 'enabling' mechanism in our CCR's and ID law does not allow fines to be issued unless the CCR's explicitly say that fines can be issued), and definitely no variances issued either (especially because our CCR's says that any variance must be filed with the county clerk.)
AugustinD
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AdamL1, what's your goal here? Are you (understandably) perhaps just trying getting your sea legs on enforcing covenants, especially one like this (the prohibition on basketball loops) that, due to lack of enforcement in the past, poses some classic conundrums?
AdamL1 (UnitedStates)
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Posted By AugustinD on 01/18/2022 2:42 PM
AdamL1, what's your goal here? Are you (understandably) perhaps just trying getting your sea legs on enforcing covenants, especially one like this (the prohibition on basketball loops) that, due to lack of enforcement in the past, poses some classic conundrums?

I'm not sure what you mean. My goal, as stated in my previous comment was to better understand selective enforcement and then gave an example, just like the OP gave an example of solar panels.

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