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TonyN2 (Illinois)
Posts: 62
Posted:
Our residenital building is located in Cook County, IL and recently a unit owner got onto our case about mask wearing in common areas.
I know I know, COVID this, Vaccine that, but how do we actually respond to this - like legally?

As far as I know, HOA officers don't have the jurisdiction to enforce these laws on their unit owners.
I am also aware that unit owners have the freedom to use the common areas to go about their usual duties.

I don't want to start a lawsuit, but I don't want people to think we can enforce things we cannot.

Here is the link, which you can use "multi-unit residential buildings" to search and find the part pertaining to condos.
https://cookcountypublichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/CCDPH-Press-Release-Cook-County-Department-of-Public-Health-Mandates-Indoor-Mask-Wearing-20Aug2021.pdf

Help?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
My opinion, providing you have already put up signs identifying the rule, tell the individuals to contact the health department to complain.

Even stores are no longer being the enforcer due to the attacks on their employees over the issue.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
If it's a lawsuit you are concerned about, There is no legal grounds for someone to sue an entity or individual due to covid related infections.

If you have signs posted about mask wearing requirements, you should be OK. I don't know if this is something local law enforcement or the heath department would touch because even common areas in a condo
building are considered the residents home, and there is no legal standing that people need to wear a mask inside their home.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Is the owner not wanting to wear a mask? Or complaining because others are not? Not clear to me.

Our HOA made an emergency rule many months ago that masks must be worn in our interior common areas (elevator building). With recent huge upsurge in our county, the Board expanded the rule to include all common areas. Residents and visitors have been very cooperative. And a few have said they've reminded others to wear a mask.

The Board has not, then, needed to enforce the rule, but could and levy a $50 fine for the first offense as specified in the emergency rule.

I don't know what this means, Tony: "I am also aware that unit owners have the freedom to use the common areas to go about their usual duties." Does this means masks interfere with "usual duties?"
TonyN2 (Illinois)
Posts: 62
Posted:
The issue is not about if owners want to wear a mask or not, but if they HAVE to. I mean "HAVE" as in "LEGALLY."

I am actually now learning that Cook County exempts residential buildings in the most recent mandate: https://cookcountypublichealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/CCDPH-COVID-Order-2021-11_122321.pdf
HenryS7 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 336
Posted:
From my perspective, people are getting weary of mask requirements. Here in Western Washington, which is liberal, I am hearing of reports of stores not enforcing mask wearing requirements of shoppers. I think we all are getting tired of the pandemic and the new rules that have been created to slow the spread. We started out with 14 days of restrictions to slow the spread, and now here we are, nearly 2 years later and the new "temporary" rules are still in place.

I would post signs that comply with your state requirement, and provide a government entity to contact if failure to observe policy is noticed. I would not get into the mask requirements as a volunteer board beyond posting the appropriate signage.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
You may need to consult your association attorney - or you could review this link from a Chicago HOA law firm that indicates the mask mandate DOESN'T apply to "locations in residential or office buildings the use of which is limited to residents, owners, or tenants of that building" - https://www.lplegal.com/content/city-of-chicago-mandate-vaccination-indoor-public-places.html

You indicate this resident is upset about people not wearing a mask when in common areas like the hallway, so you could refer him/her to this - and then ask how he/she proposes the HOA enforce a mask mandate. It would likely mean posting people everywhere to watch who comes in and out, which would cost money. And what if the person isn't a resident - will he/she be tossed out of the building?

Sometimes you can't protect people from themselves, nor will you always prevent a lawsuit. People threaten lawsuits all the time, but there's a difference between threats and actually carrying out the threat, not to mention there's a 50/50 chance of winning the lawsuit. And what, pray, will the person be asking for in the way of damage? It's best to simply encourage people to wear a mask just to be cautious, but note this is WAY about the HOA Board's pay grade.

All of that said- this "I don't wanna wear a mask because of much freedumbs!" is part of the reason why we're going into another year of this. For all the people who don't want to wear a mask - or get vaccinated - or practice social distancing, I'd like for them to tell me how in the hell do they suggest we get past this?? Personally, I think COVID will be something we have to live with, but I would hope people would take steps to help us get to the place where we can take a vaccine every year like the flu shot and be done with it. I

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
There are no "Laws" pertaining to wearing of masks or doing any covid spread prevention. It is ALL guideline suggestions from the CDC one should follow. Typically mask wearing is for inside areas not outside. Unless your city has a local ordinance in place to arrest someone for not wearing a mask, it's not "illegal" to not do it. It's just a strongly emphasized guideline to follow.

My employer does require a mask and proof of vaccination for entering our building. We have people whom do check and reject those who don't meet the requirement. That most likely would not translate the same with a HOA. Unless your HOA has hired security or designated member to do this. Otherwise, it's simply a "guideline" of what one should do to prevent a potentially deadly virus.

Please don't get me started on this. I am one of the first people who did follow the first CDC guidance when told NOT to wear a mask. It didn't matter at the time as did not really have any masks to wear. (Found a box from a painting project to wear later). Guess who caught Covid? We weren't able to get tested and told NOT to go to the hospital unless necessary. Spent 6 long months recovering. Gained weight and lost lots of hair. For those who say masks don't work. A co-worker and I worked in a small room together a year later. We both wore masks. He tested positive for Covid the same day after work. I tested negative. (Still had to quarantine). So I know they do make a difference. Now off my high horse on this one...

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MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
This is a tough one because you can't force people to wear masks. There should be signage in the common area letting owners know that masks are required.

You could try issuing fines to offenders, but if you are truly concerned the best thing to do is speak to an attorney about how to address this issue.

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