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MarkM44 (Washington)
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HI, I'm a new Treasurer in a pre 2018 Washington State Single Family Homes HOA. After reading our latest Reserve Study it talks about 4 different funding methods from Minimum to Full Funding. In reading some articles and the RCW (Below) I see nothing that even REQUIRES us to FUND a Reserve. It appears the RCW only Requires us to do a reserve Study.
Can someone clarify this for me? and if there is an RCW that REQUIRES Funding can you send me the site.

Thanks
Mark

https://www.rafellawgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3147/2016/04/ReserveStudiesinWashington-TheNewStandard.pdf

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.34.380
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM44 on 12/29/2021 9:09 AM
HI, I'm a new Treasurer in a pre 2018 Washington State Single Family Homes HOA. After reading our latest Reserve Study it talks about 4 different funding methods from Minimum to Full Funding. In reading some articles and the RCW (Below) I see nothing that even REQUIRES us to FUND a Reserve. It appears the RCW only Requires us to do a reserve Study.
Can someone clarify this for me? and if there is an RCW that REQUIRES Funding can you send me the site.

Thanks
Mark

https://www.rafellawgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3147/2016/04/ReserveStudiesinWashington-TheNewStandard.pdf

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.34.380
-- Your two links apply to condominiums, not single family home HOAs, unless per chance your governing documents state your subdivision is to be treated as a condominium, subject to the Washington condo statute.

-- Here's the link for HOAs, though as you appear to be aware, much to all of it will not apply to pre-2018 HOAs, unless your governing documents were amended to make the 2018-ish statute applicable to your HOA: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.38&full=true

-- I think this is the most likely to apply to your HOA:
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90

-- I think this is the only relevant section of 64.90:
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.560

-- I see no requirement to fund the required reserve account. Per 64.90.560 I do see liability being possible for failure to fund the reserve account.

-- I wrote the above quickly. This is only an introduction to the relevant law. It is designed to help prepare you for a meeting with an HOA attorney, should you want an attorney.

-- Failing to fund a reserve account per what a reserve study says is foolish. Anyone who questions funding a reserve account does not understand infrastructure and why funding reserves is designed to be spread over multiple owners of any one home or unit, over many years. The alternative is for there to be inadequate reserve funding, whence any major infrastructure failure may cause a financial crisis which may force a large special assessment to be imposed. Not all owners may be able to afford the special assessment. Whence the HOA will have to take a loan. It is not fair to present owners for past owners not to have paid their fair share for the use of infrastructure while they owned.
AugustinD
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Posted By AugustinD on 12/29/2021 9:25 AM

-- Here's the link for HOAs,
Correction. The latter should read, "Here's the link for newer Washington HOAs, ... "
MarkM44 (Washington)
Posts: 20
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Thanks for your detailed reply. I agree a Reserve should be funded. The other Board Members believe that the Funding Levels in the reserve Study are required by law. I'm just trying to educate them on what the Law requires.
I must assume the 4 funding levels in the Reserve Study must be some industry standard or possible based on laws in other states?
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM44 on 12/29/2021 9:45 AM
Thanks for your detailed reply. I agree a Reserve should be funded. The other Board Members believe that the Funding Levels in the reserve Study are required by law. I'm just trying to educate them on what the Law requires.
I must assume the 4 funding levels in the Reserve Study must be some industry standard or possible based on laws in other states?
-- MarkM44, FWIW you are asking good questions.

-- Reserve studies and funding is not an exact science. Best practices is to have a professional reserve study done at least every five years and have the manager and treasurer adjust the study once a year.

-- Reserve studies and funding is not exact science because, For example, the remaining useful life of a reserve component is only a guess. The more life the component has in it, the cruder will be the guess of its useful remaining life.

-- Other evidence that reserve studies and funding are not an exact science is how the industry tends to say things like, "A reserve account funded to between 70% and 100% (of what a reserve fund recommends) is rated as 'good.'" More at sites like https://www.cedcore.com/blog/percent-funded-benchmarks/

-- Even though reserve funding is not an exact science, reserve studies are still extremely helpful to guiding HOAs/COAs on how much to save. Reserve studies help explain to owners why some of each dollar of their assessment is going into a 'savings account' to pay for infrastructure down the road. Without reserve studies, boards would have no idea how much to save each year and how much of the owners' assessments should go into the reserve account. (Granted even when reserve studies are done every five years, I estimate that most boards do not understand reserve studies and their underlying financial principles. Instead, the boards cave to owners who do not want an assessment increase.)

-- I presume the different funding levels (of which you speak) correspond to something like the reserve account being funded as either weak, fair, good and excellent.

-- I know of no state that requires HOAs/COAs to fund reserves to a certain level, based on a professional reserve study. However, because of what happened in Surfside Florida in June, 2021, I believe insurance companies are cracking down. Insurers may become Thee Driving Force behind reserve accounts being funded to at least 90%. As well, lenders may join with insurers.

-- I suggest that your Board ask (1) the company that did the reserve study; and (2) the HOA/COA attorney which funding level would be best and why. If I were on this Board, I would insist on full funding, though again, to be reviewed annually. What a reserve account's "percent funded" value is will change each year. If the Board has to pay the company that did the reserve study to do a little presentation to owners and the board alike, with a question-and-answer-period as well, I say it would be well worth it. It could be filmed and put on the HOA/COA web site.
MarkM44 (Washington)
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I'm a retired accountant so I understand reserve studies. I actually did them for another HOA I was in in the 1990's before it was part of the law. Our biggest asset is 1.5 miles of cedar fence. The Study has it on a 30 year life. No way a cedar fence will last even 20 years in the wet side of Washington state. I could do a better job that they did.

I am hesitant to build our reserve up too much. The prior board just blew most of our reserve fund to stain part of the fence. They did it since the money was there even though it was not scheduled for 2 more years. They also refused to listen to the contactor and use a solid color stain over transparent to get better coverage and useful life. Using Transparent stain over transparent does not work. Now the fund is gone and we have a "stained" fence that looks like hell. On top of it, we paid through the nose for it due to the Pandemic. It could have waited a year or 2.

Had the money not been there they would have had to do an assessment which would have forced them to disclose what they were doing before they did it an create a community dialog. Our HOA are pretty high end homes and if people can spend $1000 to put up Xmas lights they can afford a few hundred dollars in special assessments every few years.

Thanks for your help especially setting me straight on the correct RCW.
AugustinD
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Posted By MarkM44 on 12/29/2021 10:37 AM
Our biggest asset is 1.5 miles of cedar fence. The Study has it on a 30 year life. No way a cedar fence will last even 20 years in the wet side of Washington state. I could do a better job that they did.
FWIW, in my experience reserve study companies are usually happy to adjust the numbers for remaining useful life and estimated cost to replace. Directors and owners being the 'boots on the ground' every day, they may have a better handle on these numbers.
HenryS7 (Pennsylvania)
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Posted By MarkM44 on 12/29/2021 9:09 AM
HI, I'm a new Treasurer in a pre 2018 Washington State Single Family Homes HOA. After reading our latest Reserve Study it talks about 4 different funding methods from Minimum to Full Funding. In reading some articles and the RCW (Below) I see nothing that even REQUIRES us to FUND a Reserve. It appears the RCW only Requires us to do a reserve Study.
Can someone clarify this for me? and if there is an RCW that REQUIRES Funding can you send me the site.

Thanks
Mark

https://www.rafellawgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3147/2016/04/ReserveStudiesinWashington-TheNewStandard.pdf

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.34.380

Mark,

I'm in Washington despite what it says here.

No, there is no requirement to set aside for reserves in Washington. You are correct that a reserve study must be undertaken each year per Washington Law. When you send out notification to homeowners of assessments for next year, you are required to state whether your reserve fund is fully funded per the reserve study. if it is underfunded, you are required to tell your homeowners how much it is underfunded.
AugustinD
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Posted By HenryS7 on 12/29/2021 11:43 AM
I'm in Washington despite what it says here.

No, there is no requirement to set aside for reserves in Washington. You are correct that a reserve study must be undertaken each year per Washington Law. When you send out notification to homeowners of assessments for next year, you are required to state whether your reserve fund is fully funded per the reserve study. if it is underfunded, you are required to tell your homeowners how much it is underfunded.
Washington HOA statutes require the HOA to update the reserve study annually. Per the statutes, a reserve study professional is required to perform a reserve study every third year. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.545

Per statute, the reserve study is supplemental to the annual budget. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.525

Per statute, the budget must be disclosed. Per statute, the reserve study must state the extent to which the reserve account is funded. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.550
HenryS7 (Pennsylvania)
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Posted By AugustinD on 12/29/2021 12:37 PM
Posted By HenryS7 on 12/29/2021 11:43 AM
I'm in Washington despite what it says here.

No, there is no requirement to set aside for reserves in Washington. You are correct that a reserve study must be undertaken each year per Washington Law. When you send out notification to homeowners of assessments for next year, you are required to state whether your reserve fund is fully funded per the reserve study. if it is underfunded, you are required to tell your homeowners how much it is underfunded.
Washington HOA statutes require the HOA to update the reserve study annually. Per the statutes, a reserve study professional is required to perform a reserve study every third year. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.545

Per statute, the reserve study is supplemental to the annual budget. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.525

Per statute, the budget must be disclosed. Per statute, the reserve study must state the extent to which the reserve account is funded. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.90.550

I think that is what I said in the post that you quoted. You have to complete a reserve study but don't actually have to set aside any funds in reserves. You have to tell your homeowners about how well funded your reserve account is. In other words, if you are 0% funded, that is legal as long as you tell your homeowners of that fact.
AugustinD
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Yeah but it is all buried in the annual disclosure of the budget.

Also I thought it worthwhile to clarify that Washington does not require a full-blown, on site yada reserve study every year.
BenA2 (Texas)
Posts: 1,273
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It is also important to note that if you have a reserve study that you fail to fund properly, it will very likely lower property values.
MarkM44 (Washington)
Posts: 20
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Hi Augustin,
Thanks for all your help. You seem to know the RCW pretty well. Am I right that RCW 64.38 applies to HOA's formed prior to 2018 and RCW 64.90 applies to those created after but the Reserve sections of RCW 64.90 apply to all HOA's no matter when created?
Are there other SIGNIFICANT parts of 64.90 that also apply to pre 2018 HOA's

Thanks
Mark
KerryL1 (California)
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Fine information from Augustin and Henry too. Our nation-wide reserve analysis firm has three levels of study: complete onsite with inspection of components and review of the CC&Rs, onsite with meeting with board or PM & maintenance staff; offsite, just a basic email or phone update with the board or PM about what's been repaired or replaced. Obviously the Level one study is a lot more expensive than the level 3 study. Our high rise HOA does one of those every year. I think CA requires a s study every three years.

Augustin is right, analysts are very open to change the RUL (Remaining Useful Life) and estimated replacement cost especially if you can show them numbers about the topics.

We've had meetings with our analysts and in the past and currently, he tells us that while he wants to see us 70-100% funded, when we drop to funding in the 50% range, which we will be in about 3 years due to some huge expenditures starting next month, we just need to show we're on a reserve-contribution path to become better funded in a few years. I also have heard the same approach from other reserve analysts at seminars. (We're currently 92% funded.)

Put another way, just because an HOA is only "moderately" funded (30-70%) if the board raises contributions at a level to increase the % funded every year, there is no need to panic.

what is your % funded, Mark?

AugustinD
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MarkM44, re 64.38 and 64.90, you have things more straight than I do. You are correct: 64.38 applies to pre-July 1, 2018 HOAs, with some caveatss. You are correct: 64.90 applies to July 1, 2018 and later HOAs, with some caveats. Among these caveats is: Per https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.38.095, the following provisions of chapter 64.90 RCW apply, and any inconsistent provisions of 64.90 do not apply, to a common interest community created before July 1, 2018:
(a) RCW 64.90.095;
(b) RCW 64.90.405(1) (b) and (c);
(c) RCW 64.90.525; [budget distribution] and
(d) RCW 64.90.545. [reserve study frequency]

What I posted about how often a reserve study must be done and, per Henry's and my follow-up posts, be distributed, is correct. In other words, both 64.38 and 64.90 state that the reserve study is a supplement to the annual budget. Both state the budget has to be distributed to the owners annually. Both 64.38 and 64.90 require HOAs to have a professional prepare a full-blown study every three years. 64.38 requires an annual update, unless such an update is an "unreasonable hardship."

I am making the mistake of trying to summarize statutes that twist and turn. That is, 64.38 refers to sections of 64.90 (and vice versa?) often. And so on. It's best if you go to the table of the contents of the statutes themselves, and pick and choose what you need, wending and winding further as needed. If push comes to shove, urge the board to get the advice of the HOA attorney.

AugustinD
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Posted By KerryL1 on 12/29/2021 1:33 PM

We've had meetings with our analysts and in the past and currently, he tells us that while he wants to see us 70-100% funded, when we drop to funding in the 50% range, which we will be in about 3 years due to some huge expenditures starting next month, we just need to show we're on a reserve-contribution path to become better funded in a few years. I also have heard the same approach from other reserve analysts at seminars. (We're currently 92% funded.)

Put another way, just because an HOA is only "moderately" funded (30-70%) if the board raises contributions at a level to increase the % funded every year, there is no need to panic.

what is your % funded, Mark?

For a HOA that presently has a way low percent funded figure, I too understand the custom is to increase the assessment to owners year-over-year for several years. When the reserves are really hurting, trying to address the problem in one fell swoop (meaning one, huge regular, annual assessment increase) can be a hardship on owners.

But the part above that does not make sense to me is where KerryL1 says her HOA has some huge expenses coming up, and these will cause the percent funded figure to drop. Are these expenses for the repair/maintenance/replacement of reserve components? If so, then these repairs et cetera should re-set (that is, increase) the useful life values of these components from what the useful life figure was before the repairs et cetera. The increase in the useful life figures should improve the percent funded figure.

KerryL1, just saying.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Mandatory or not is the issue. If a Reserve Study is not done and not properly funded, you are asking for trouble down the road including Special Assessments.
KerryL1 (California)
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Quick reply not as careful as Augustin deserves: We will be spending way more than the estimated replacement costs for several components in our two lobbies and 50 floors of residential hallways. In addition, some had not reached the end of their useful lives as estimated by the analyst. They, as our analyst actually did put it, "Uglied out before they wore out." One example are rather dark granite tile walls in our lobbies and their granite tile floors. Very dated though they technically have a 30 year useful life. Our community via Town Halls, etc., has agreed we want a "younger" livelier, sleeker aesthetic than we've had for 20 years.

In addition, we added balcony surfaces (the structures are sound) a few years ago to our study, but some need to be replaced now even though their estimated life was another 10 years. SO, we expect to spend about 4 million over the next 3 or so years. We still will have about 4m in our account at that time so we'll be about 45% funded, but moving up for a few years. I'm poor at explaining numbers but hope this is OK. Basically we'll be spending way more than estimated in the study and in some cases, sooner than estimated.
AugustinD
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KerryL1, so this is unexpected reserve component expenses, driving down the percent funded figure. It happens. Thx for the explanation.

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