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RichA3 (Arizona)
Posts: 48
Posted:
I live in a small 17-unit condo association in Sun City, Arizona.

A recent proposed significant hike in our monthly association dues has caused rebellion in the rank and file. Our annual meeting is scheduled for Dec 8th when this proposal will be on the table along with the election of 3 officers for next year.

All of the current officers (P, VP, & Sec) are up for re-election.

Our association is self-managed with only accounting services provided by a private management services company.

Due to recent and severe criticism from two of our owners I (the Sec) have removed my name from consideration for a Board position next year. The P and VP may do the same.

It does appear that a dues increase will be approved in spite of the owner discontent.

By our by-laws if one Board member steps down the other two Board members may select a replacement board member to serve until next year's annual election of officers.

But what if the remaining Board members also remove their names from consideration as Board candidates for next year?

Just what are potential consequences?
What can or should be done?

Of course many like to complain about condo issues but few ever want to serve on the Board. This is one unpaid volunteer that will be very happy to no longer serve on the Board.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
May I ask what the hike was for? Was it for Hike sake? A HOA should be a non-profit. Collecting only for it's expenses. Is this for additional expenses or cost of living? Just to raise dues just because or for covering a special additional expense is kind of a no-no. It isn't if it's for something for rise in expenses of utilities, contractors, or business related expenses.

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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Rich

So two owners hurt your feelings and you are going to resign. You are precious.
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
Posted:
From a HOA attorney I respect:

If even just one owner is willing to serve on the board, receivership can be avoided.

If no one is willing to serve on the board, then a court-ordered receivership is possible. Receivership is incredibly expensive.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Yes! What is the reason your assessments are being raised? It is to cover your reserves? Major repairs?
Explain to your fellow owners that you do not want to go into receivership. My best guesstimate, receivership will cost you upwards an extra $100.00 per month. The receivership will just keep
paying out current expenses and racking up new ones regardless if items need fixing or replacing.
RichA3 (Arizona)
Posts: 48
Posted:
This is "precious" responding.

Those two obnoxious condo owners have been that way since they moved in. Disregard association rules and bitch constantly. I have tried my best to serve on the board and accommodate any legitimate gripes they have. I am sorry but I am just burnt out trying to appease them.
Receivership is a bad thing and I do not want it for all the good folks who live here. But I am done. I have served faithfully as a Board member for 5 years. I am 79 YRO. Time for someone else to take all the abuse.
I will take my money and run. Bought in here at Sun City for $95k in 2016 and can now sell for over $215k.
I wish the absolute worst for the two bitches that have caused all the grief here for everyone.
Of course I believe that the increase in monthly assessment fees is necessary and I believe it will be supported. Have had to chase higher expenses especially for water, sewer, and casualty insurance premiums after a significant claim in 2018.
Be nice to turn over this thankless POS job to someone else!
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Sounds like the board were being held emotional hostage to these people. Otherwise, why keep appeasing these people if they weren't holding you hostage? Seriously were they threatening to sue? Why were their opinion any better than any one else unless were willing to appease and they knew it?

Sometimes were are our own enemy. It's a good thing for dues to rise if it's for covering the HOA's expenses. It's not because you got people whining about how the HOA board isn't doing their job and place look terrible. Looking terrible isn't a need to raise dues. It's a need to do a special assessment or make sure infrastructure is being fully funded.

Wish you luck in your move. I am sure someone will want to join the board. There is usually a "bigger fish" waiting to eat the smaller ones..

Former HOA President
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By RichA3 on 11/28/2021 5:47 PM
This is "precious" responding.

Those two obnoxious condo owners have been that way since they moved in. Disregard association rules and bitch constantly. I have tried my best to serve on the board and accommodate any legitimate gripes they have. I am sorry but I am just burnt out trying to appease them.
Receivership is a bad thing and I do not want it for all the good folks who live here. But I am done. I have served faithfully as a Board member for 5 years. I am 79 YRO. Time for someone else to take all the abuse.
I will take my money and run. Bought in here at Sun City for $95k in 2016 and can now sell for over $215k.
I wish the absolute worst for the two bitches that have caused all the grief here for everyone.
Of course I believe that the increase in monthly assessment fees is necessary and I believe it will be supported. Have had to chase higher expenses especially for water, sewer, and casualty insurance premiums after a significant claim in 2018.
Be nice to turn over this thankless POS job to someone else!

All of this is very common in community associations, especially condos: a few nasty owners, a bunch more entitled owners and most of them totally clueless about how much it takes to run these properties responsibly, burned out board members, and nobody else willing to serve on the board.

As for the last item, receivership usually acts as a wake-up call and you'll get your volunteers (*). As others noted, it's expensive - receivers can earn more than lawyers, and doubled assessments are not unusual.

(* Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate - depends how capable these new folks are.)

FWIW, there is a trick to dealing with the nasties - you basically remove the emotional payoff they get for their bad behavior by not playing the game on their terms. Takes time, you need to be consistent, but eventually they learn to look elsewhere for their entertainment.

We've had discussions around here about what some view as flaws in the whole condo/HOA setup. One of the regular posters (Shelia in IN) said that buying a condo is like walking into a bar and becoming business partners with everyone in the joint. Unfortunately, I've discovered that for older folks who don't want to rent and aren't ready for the whole continuing care bit, homeownership choices can be very limited - personal needs plus financial resources plus the increasing push to create more and more of these HOA/COA communities can make condos the only game in town.

So I hear you about being done with it. Even without unusual challenges, the job is still time consuming and tiring, and others need to do their fair share of the work.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Receivership is like handing someone your checkbook, a tube of lube, then bending over. Not something one wants to do.

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