AdamL1 (UnitedStates)
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Posts: 559
Posted:
So more HOA drama here.
TL;DR: the books don't match up...How can I properly inquire and get questions answered.
$9000 line item going to "other account", then mysteriously disappears from official operating statement
$7000 "income" missing from official operating statement
44% of our $90k budget spent on lawn service and maintenance
Over the summer I met strong resistance inquiring about our HOA. As a new neighbor, I started asking for previous annual statements, budgets, annual meeting minutes, etc. Every inquiry was met with resistance and statements of "you are not allowed to see it." I finally was able to get the PMC to print off operating statement for the end of 2020 and July 2021 (note, not an actual budget or annual statement). Then, after our long delayed annual meeting, the HOA board gave handouts with a "budget analysis" for last few years and next few years (note, this was a handout at the annual meeting, not annual statement or budget, and this has not been published for anyone else to review that was not at the meeting).
As I've looked into it in more detail, there about a $16k swing ($7k missing income and $9k missing expense) from what has hastily emailed to me under inquiry vs what was provided at the annual meeting. In addition, it seems we are spending nearly $0k/yr on lawn service (mowing, irrigation, maintenance, etc) for the tiny amount of common space we have. I've looked at budgets for nearby neighborhoods with similar common area and they are spending much much less. Additionally, many neighbors complain that the lawn service doesn't really do much and hardly comes through (example, 1 leaf pickup service in the fall).
Our HOA has continued to circle the wagons, no transparency, no ability to communicate with the board members, no access to board meetings, no minutes, no record of any HOA business. All communication is run through the PMC, which has a vested interest in protecting the status quo and I genuinely doubt they are sending communications to the proper board or committee.
So how does one go about inquiring and digging into this? I'm not suggesting something nefarious, but it does raise eyebrows that general questions are met with strong resistance and shut down of communication.
TL;DR: the books don't match up...How can I properly inquire and get questions answered.
$9000 line item going to "other account", then mysteriously disappears from official operating statement
$7000 "income" missing from official operating statement
44% of our $90k budget spent on lawn service and maintenance
Over the summer I met strong resistance inquiring about our HOA. As a new neighbor, I started asking for previous annual statements, budgets, annual meeting minutes, etc. Every inquiry was met with resistance and statements of "you are not allowed to see it." I finally was able to get the PMC to print off operating statement for the end of 2020 and July 2021 (note, not an actual budget or annual statement). Then, after our long delayed annual meeting, the HOA board gave handouts with a "budget analysis" for last few years and next few years (note, this was a handout at the annual meeting, not annual statement or budget, and this has not been published for anyone else to review that was not at the meeting).
As I've looked into it in more detail, there about a $16k swing ($7k missing income and $9k missing expense) from what has hastily emailed to me under inquiry vs what was provided at the annual meeting. In addition, it seems we are spending nearly $0k/yr on lawn service (mowing, irrigation, maintenance, etc) for the tiny amount of common space we have. I've looked at budgets for nearby neighborhoods with similar common area and they are spending much much less. Additionally, many neighbors complain that the lawn service doesn't really do much and hardly comes through (example, 1 leaf pickup service in the fall).
Our HOA has continued to circle the wagons, no transparency, no ability to communicate with the board members, no access to board meetings, no minutes, no record of any HOA business. All communication is run through the PMC, which has a vested interest in protecting the status quo and I genuinely doubt they are sending communications to the proper board or committee.
So how does one go about inquiring and digging into this? I'm not suggesting something nefarious, but it does raise eyebrows that general questions are met with strong resistance and shut down of communication.