MikeA14 (California)
Posts: 40
Posts: 40
Posted:
Hello again everyone,
We're almost through our election which is turning out to be quite successful. Days before we count ballots, an original owner and first president produced an amendment to our bylaws (a 20 year old copy of a document) along with proof of notification by the property manager at the time. These amendments provide for staggered terms (of 2 years for directors) and provide a restriction to nominating the president and vice president (in which the director must have served for at least 1 year).
Our currently available bylaws are not amended in place, and I was not provided with these amendments when I moved in, nor does our property manager distribute them on request.
As far as I can tell, Adams Sterling is the only literature I can find on the subject:
https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/Evidence-of-Approval
The problem I have with some of the case law here, is that these amendments were actually never enforced because quorum has not been reached during election time in 10 years or more. So circumstantial evidence is likely out the window.
Has anyone dealt with this before? Are these amendments enforceable? Does it void our election since the terms of office stated in the election rules do not match with the bylaws amendments? (1 year vs 2 years).
It seems as though the directors are complying as our inspector of elections has informed me they are working to update the terms of the candidates. Presumably, the director's have spoken to legal counsel and is working with them.
I'm still concerned considering the letter that went out to residents still stays 1 year terms, so I'm not sure how we can get away with changing the terms after ballots have already been sent and received.
Disclaimer: I'm not a director so I don't have the privilege of speaking to our association's counsel, nor can I persuade the board of directors to do anything.
We're almost through our election which is turning out to be quite successful. Days before we count ballots, an original owner and first president produced an amendment to our bylaws (a 20 year old copy of a document) along with proof of notification by the property manager at the time. These amendments provide for staggered terms (of 2 years for directors) and provide a restriction to nominating the president and vice president (in which the director must have served for at least 1 year).
Our currently available bylaws are not amended in place, and I was not provided with these amendments when I moved in, nor does our property manager distribute them on request.
As far as I can tell, Adams Sterling is the only literature I can find on the subject:
https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/Evidence-of-Approval
The problem I have with some of the case law here, is that these amendments were actually never enforced because quorum has not been reached during election time in 10 years or more. So circumstantial evidence is likely out the window.
Has anyone dealt with this before? Are these amendments enforceable? Does it void our election since the terms of office stated in the election rules do not match with the bylaws amendments? (1 year vs 2 years).
It seems as though the directors are complying as our inspector of elections has informed me they are working to update the terms of the candidates. Presumably, the director's have spoken to legal counsel and is working with them.
I'm still concerned considering the letter that went out to residents still stays 1 year terms, so I'm not sure how we can get away with changing the terms after ballots have already been sent and received.
Disclaimer: I'm not a director so I don't have the privilege of speaking to our association's counsel, nor can I persuade the board of directors to do anything.