ScottH21 (Florida)
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I have looked online but mostly find similar but different discussions....(i.e. developer adding lots/phases/parcels or merger of HOAs) My situation is different.
Florida Single Family HOA (about 100 lots) founded in 1980.
Operating with original and antiquated 1980 Declaration of Restrictions, Articles of Incorporation, & Bylaws. (Yes, we spent most of 2019 revitalizing, got approval in 12/2019 and recorded in 01/2020).
None of our governing documents speak to "adding" lots or members or increasing size of HOA.
All three governing documents currently require 2/3 member approval to amend.
We have a member that owns a 10 acre (+/-) parcel that adjoins our HOA common area property. Subject property was NOT included or even referenced in our original plat. The member and parcel owner has approached the HOA and expressed interest in having his parcel divided into approximately 1 acres lots and made part of the HOA. In theory, parcel owner would pay an impact fee per lot when the lots are sold (providing us with significant and much needed funds to maintain and improve this common property). Lot owners would be begin paying our assessments... lowering the per member expenses without adding any additional cost (outside of all legal fees to put this together - most of which would likely be paid by parcel owner.) This also benefits the HOA by ensuring that these lots are developed consistently with OUR community standards/restrictions and not become an eyesore or nuisance... as they will be the first impression that members and visitors/guest see when entering our community. So these are three big wins for the HOA.
In becoming part of our HOA, said lots would have access to our unique 10 acre common parcel... boosting the property value of these lots. Perhaps parcel owners pays an impact fee of "x" and property value is boosted 3x, netting him 2x increased value/equity. So this should be a win-win scenario.
We will obviously seek legal advice from a well established and competent HOA law firm. But in the mean time, just trying to determine if this is feasible, my $64,000 question(s) is:
What kind of vote would be needed by our membership to approve such and incorporation/annexation? 2/3 (as required to amend Bylaws an/or Restrictions)? Higher? 100% of members?
720.306 1, (c) states:
Unless otherwise provided in the governing documents as originally recorded or permitted by this chapter or chapter 617, an amendment may not materially and adversely alter the proportionate voting interest appurtenant to a parcel or increase the proportion or percentage by which a parcel shares in the common expenses of the association unless the record parcel owner and all record owners of liens on the parcels join in the execution of the amendment. For purposes of this section, a change in quorum requirements is not an alteration of voting interests. The merger or consolidation of one or more associations under a plan of merger or consolidation under part I of chapter 607 or chapter 617 is not a material or adverse alteration of the proportionate voting interest appurtenant to a parcel.
If adding 10 lots and diluting existing members voting interest by 10 percent, would that trigger the "materially and adversely alter the proportionate voting interest" clause in paragraph (c)? All members, existing and new lots, would have the same voting rights - 1 vote per lot. I'm not sure how to interpret "proportionate." On one hand, I would think it would trigger because their voting interest is reduced from 1/100 to 1/110. On the other hand, all members would have the same proportionate voting interest (1 out of the total voting interest.)
Just trying to understand the process/hurdles/obstacles in putting together such a deal. I'm confident we can get 2/3 approval but 100% would definitely be out of the question.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Florida Single Family HOA (about 100 lots) founded in 1980.
Operating with original and antiquated 1980 Declaration of Restrictions, Articles of Incorporation, & Bylaws. (Yes, we spent most of 2019 revitalizing, got approval in 12/2019 and recorded in 01/2020).
None of our governing documents speak to "adding" lots or members or increasing size of HOA.
All three governing documents currently require 2/3 member approval to amend.
We have a member that owns a 10 acre (+/-) parcel that adjoins our HOA common area property. Subject property was NOT included or even referenced in our original plat. The member and parcel owner has approached the HOA and expressed interest in having his parcel divided into approximately 1 acres lots and made part of the HOA. In theory, parcel owner would pay an impact fee per lot when the lots are sold (providing us with significant and much needed funds to maintain and improve this common property). Lot owners would be begin paying our assessments... lowering the per member expenses without adding any additional cost (outside of all legal fees to put this together - most of which would likely be paid by parcel owner.) This also benefits the HOA by ensuring that these lots are developed consistently with OUR community standards/restrictions and not become an eyesore or nuisance... as they will be the first impression that members and visitors/guest see when entering our community. So these are three big wins for the HOA.
In becoming part of our HOA, said lots would have access to our unique 10 acre common parcel... boosting the property value of these lots. Perhaps parcel owners pays an impact fee of "x" and property value is boosted 3x, netting him 2x increased value/equity. So this should be a win-win scenario.
We will obviously seek legal advice from a well established and competent HOA law firm. But in the mean time, just trying to determine if this is feasible, my $64,000 question(s) is:
What kind of vote would be needed by our membership to approve such and incorporation/annexation? 2/3 (as required to amend Bylaws an/or Restrictions)? Higher? 100% of members?
720.306 1, (c) states:
Unless otherwise provided in the governing documents as originally recorded or permitted by this chapter or chapter 617, an amendment may not materially and adversely alter the proportionate voting interest appurtenant to a parcel or increase the proportion or percentage by which a parcel shares in the common expenses of the association unless the record parcel owner and all record owners of liens on the parcels join in the execution of the amendment. For purposes of this section, a change in quorum requirements is not an alteration of voting interests. The merger or consolidation of one or more associations under a plan of merger or consolidation under part I of chapter 607 or chapter 617 is not a material or adverse alteration of the proportionate voting interest appurtenant to a parcel.
If adding 10 lots and diluting existing members voting interest by 10 percent, would that trigger the "materially and adversely alter the proportionate voting interest" clause in paragraph (c)? All members, existing and new lots, would have the same voting rights - 1 vote per lot. I'm not sure how to interpret "proportionate." On one hand, I would think it would trigger because their voting interest is reduced from 1/100 to 1/110. On the other hand, all members would have the same proportionate voting interest (1 out of the total voting interest.)
Just trying to understand the process/hurdles/obstacles in putting together such a deal. I'm confident we can get 2/3 approval but 100% would definitely be out of the question.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!