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MD (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
I've been trying to obtain association records since May. My issues with the association are no recordkeeping, inequitable enforcement of rules/regulations/CC&Rs, community safety, how money is spent and incompetent property management company. The board of directors treats the HOA as their personal club. I have physically been to the property management company three times to inspect documents. I've made email, snail mail and verbal requests for documents, all of which are well documented. The property management company is deliberately obtuse, providing one document but not the complete document request. For example, I asked for property management company invoices to our HOA. What did I get? I got utility bills. Strangely, when I showed up to inspect documents, I received the corporate minutes book, complete with executive session minutes. Strange, too, the minutes for 2005 were missing.

In tandem with trying to obtain documents, I requested internal dispute resolution (IDR). The association refused to honor the approved procedure; in fact, the association attorney sent me a letter clearly meant to intimidate me. I requested alternate dispute resolution (ADR) in accordance with the approved procedure. The association said my request was not valid. The IDR and ADR procedures are consistent with state statute.

To give you an idea of some of the problems:

There are no architectural or landscape standards yet homeowners are fined for violations.
A board member walks the community writing up homeowners and the property management company sends violation letters. There is no record of board authority for the board member to be the sole arbiter of violations.
Homeowners are told to change yards planted with drought-resistant plants. This is illegal in California.
There are many, many illegal actions without meeting.
The property manager plays "favorites." I have an email sent to a homeowner where the property manager says complaints are "neighbors just trying to cause trouble."
The property manager wrote an email to a board member about withholding documents, saying time could be bought because of the corporations code.
I am certain the property management company is overbilling the association based on general ledger entries.
The association refused to fix a fence by an emergency access gate. Two children have been injured to date.
The association selectively enforces safety rules in the community.

I hired an attorney. My attorney went back and forth with the association attorney who threatened me with a harassment suit and then wrote the documents would be produced. Of course, the management company did not produce the documents. As if this was not enough, I received an email from a board member, daring me to sue.

I filed suit because the association STILL has not produced the documents and the other issues remain addressed. The property management company has violated just about every term of their contract. I pointed this out as well as the appropriate governing document and state law citations in all of my correspondence with the association. Obviously, my attorney has done the same in his correspondence.

I've seen many posts about "suing the HOA is the same as suing yourself." I understand that point of view; however, in this case my rights are being violated and a "slippery slope" has been created by the egregious, repeated governing document and law violations. To me, this is unacceptable liability exposure. For every governing document and law violation, I have written supporting documentation from documents I've been able to obtain from homeowners and the association. i have photos to support complaints I've made regarding safety issues and copies of paperwork the association documents say is required although that is also arbitrary.

I campaigned for a new board and was successful. The new board refuses to act on the property management company's contract violations and refuses to direct the property management company to produce the outstanding documents. The main causal factor in this matter is the property management company.

I've served on many boards of directors. I've written association newsletters and published articles. I understand the law, the governing documents and my rights very well.

Since the HOA has yet to produce the documents or follow up on my complaints, what else could I do (or have done) to enforce my rights?

No one should have to experience this. I wish California had stronger enforcement provisions for property management companies. Thank you for your consideration.
JeanneK3 (Maryland)
Posts: 562
Posted:
MD: I'm with you. My condo has no written rules and/or regulations, and like yours, the board fines at will. As with you, I wish Maryland had stronger enforcement. Maryland HOA/Condo rules are strong but there is a very weak state enforcement mechanism.
JaneK (California)
Posts: 175
Posted:
It sounds like you’ve done more than most. I have been writing my State Reps to get some laws changed. None have teeth. There is no incentive for the Board or Mgmt to obey the law. So they don’t. We need laws with teeth, big, ugly, sharp TEETH.

Jane
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
MD,
Do you have any owner support (numbers)that will actually do something to force change. If you are a lonesome cowboy, you need lots of help. Form a ad hoc (sic) group, open a web site, start letter writing to legislation, seek council with local representatives. Dig you associations e-mail list out. If you are right and they are wrong and you can prove it, and they stonewall you, the only way to go is get some firepower, legal, legislative, talk with other associations in you area, check all state and county regulation that govern HOA.s. This is all not uncommon and there are others near you that have gone through similiar. Check the court records for any action or prior action listed under the HOA or MC. Surely, there has to be a sympathic ear somewhere, you will do much better with support. Legal aid maybe, BBB, colleges that may teach property management course that have professors in the field. Dig like a dog after a bone.
KathyS (California)
Posts: 145
Posted:
We have parking and swimming pool rules and CC&R's. We do not have any architecural or landscape rules or guidelines so what is approved is "what the Board likes".

The MC makes up CC&R violations as she drives by. We haven't received a violation letter for a non-existant violation but many other homeowners have. They send out the violation letters without the Board ever even seeing them. Carte Blanche..do what you want.

Knowing an ex-manager from our management company, she told me they had to come back to the office with a quota. If they didn't, they got in trouble.

Most of this associations problems arise from the management company doing what they want, when they want and with our money at stake.

I agree, management companies in California need to be reigned in. Right now they pretty much do and say what they want all under the indemnification (SP?) clauses in their contracts.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
JeanneK3,
Recently there was a poster her from maryland that posted some state statutes from Maryland.
Have you searched the Web for State Statutes. If I recall correctly there was some new HOA legislation coming out also.
Do a seaarch here all so. Discussion topics paagee, upper right search box.

Google Maryland Home Owners Associations, lots of stuff there. If you are around the DC area there is a ton of stuff on the web.
Let us know what you find to help.
MD (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
My father-in-law says I am like a dog with a bone. I have homeowner support. I've obtained copies of correspondence from them proving my allegations. I just started writing letters to my legislators. I have press releases ready to go out. I filed ethics complaints with CACM regarding the property manager's conduct. I'm the delegate for the master association and I've spoken to the other delegates. I'm not alone. I hadn't thought about a Better Bureau complaint; that's a good idea. Thank you. I also thought about filing a complaint with the master association since everyone in my city belongs to the master association.

I agree with JaneK; the law needs big, ugly sharp teeth to reign in management companies and wayward boards of directors. The civil penalty provision in the current statute is a start. I agree with the other poster that management companies hide under the indemnification clause in their contract. Most boards do not want to challenge that. In my case, the board does not want to file an errors and omissions claim because of the prior board's actions, citing increased insurance rates as the reason. I guess they prefer to be sued.

No one should have to experience this.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
MD:
Your last sentence should read:
Everyone should have to do this.
I bet that would cut down on some of the ego trippers and lurkers, might get them interested.
MD (California)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Robert: Point well taken and I agree -- I am all for anything reducing apathy in HOA communities!
HanhN1 (California)
Posts: 64
Posted:
MD, I am with you. Your matter is the same with my Association. Finally, the property management company and board members are being sued. I am sure they are hiding something.

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