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JosieA (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Hello, I have lived in an HOA Condo Community for 2 years. I love how close I have become to my neighbors with the exception of one. We have a neighbor who constantly complains about the overpopulation of stray cats and we understand and have acknowledged it for some time. We do Catch Neuter Release as often as we can and that is still not enough. She claims it is the HOA's responsibility to fix the issue. She has threatened with her attorney for MANY reasons. She feels she is being discriminated against because we are not planting a tree in her yard and soon as she says to. The board members fear her and keep letting her get away with her demands. I personally have yelled at her because she kept accusing my cat of going into her backyard and that she had it on security footage. After reviewing the footage it was not my cat because my cat is in indoor cat. She is a neighbor from hell and I wish she would just get up and move because she seems so unhappy with everything. I can go on with the amount of stories I have about her. Everything circles back to she would do it herself but that's why she pays HOA fees! I can't with her anymore.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
What "demands" do the Board kowtow to, Josie?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Josie,

Sorry to hear you are having issues with your neighbor.
The old adage "you can pick your friends but not your family" applies to neighbors to.

If I were on the board, I would tell her to call animal control.
However, I am not on your board.

I would suggest the board do some research on stray cats and what can be done.

Best advice I can offer toward her is try and find some common ground and be courteous to each other.

Not what you really wanted to hear.
Hope it helps,

Tim
JosieA (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
In the HOA CC&R's it states nothing can be over the back patio fence. She has now barricaded herself with plants and plant arbors, planted some succulent behind her gate that spread like wild fire, put massive planters on the front of her yard. She also laid a spike mat in her front yard that was against the CC&R's and she still has it there after being warned and having animal control come out to say it is a danger. One time someone parked in her spot by accident and she blocked them from getting out but yet threatened to get it towed but refused to answer her door to allow that person to move their car. She is asking for everyone's name and phone number in the condo community.
JosieA (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I just learned to completely ignore her. She is rude and after having an altercation she no longer speaks to me which works in my favor. I remember being a new neighbor and she rang my doorbell to talk to me about how cats were an issue.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If she's violating the CCRs, you could file a complaint with your board. Homeowners can also enforce CCRs against each other, so I suppose you could do a tit for tat and sue her in some claims court, but I suspect the best approach is to ignore her.

The lady could be a straight-up beoych, but there's also a possibility she's mentally ill. If her behavior gets really bizarre to the point she's endangering herself or others (that parking business could have ended really badly for her), you may want to call the non-emergency number of the police department and see if a wellness check might be in order.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JosieA (California)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you... Yeah suing her would be a massive headache. Can the Board members ask for her "attorneys" business card? She has never actually sued but always threatens that she has been speaking with her attorney.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
What for? Some people yap all day about suing, but never do because (1) they take a look at what's required, especially the money and back down or (2) they or someone else returns to earth and realizes they have a better chance of being struck by lightning than winning a case, especially if 99% of what they're bellyaching about is BS.

If/when she actually files the paperwork to sue the association for whatever, deal with it at that time.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,631
Posted:
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Posted By JosieA on 04/19/2021 3:40 PM
Thank you... Yeah suing her would be a massive headache. Can the Board members ask for her "attorneys" business card? She has never actually sued but always threatens that she has been speaking with her attorney.

Based on the info you have provided our Board would ignore her. Threats are a dime a dozen.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
This person is just an attention getter. They like it when the HOA responds to them. So let the HOA start responding to them as they should. That is by directly quoting responses from the documents. State everything has to be requested by written request. Make sure to dot the i's and cross the T's.

I would not jump to every attorney statement. That is just manipulation. I would say until we see the actual lawsuit, we will hold to our policy. Plus the court can ONLY make one whole not a profit. The HOA can also counter sue.

Former HOA President
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Yes, this person is what we refer to as a Chronic Complainer, and every community has a few.

The problem is that she wants drama, and everybody - including the board - is giving it to her.

You need to keep interactions with her as brief and boring as possible. For other owners: "Hello, nice day, ooops gotta run, see you later." For the board: "thank you for your comments" or "we will research this further", end of discussion. The trick to this is consistency. It doesn't do much good if she gets nothing the first nine times but on the tenth you get sucked into her drama - it just tells her she needs to act up ten times to get what she wants. We dealt with a few when I was on the board, and it took a year or more for them to get the message, but in the end they did get it.

As for stray/feral cats, check with local animal control, but at some point there isn't a whole lot you can do about them - they breed faster than you can catch/neuter/release. I've found that coyotes and other predators are more effective at controlling strays and pets that are allowed to roam off leash (judging from the tales of woe on the area NextDoor pages).
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about this kind of neighbour. As long as the HOA is fulfilling its duties, she has nothing real to bring to an attorney.

Though it's hard, the board should do its best to treat her like every other owner, meaning do not offer special treatment to her. Others may look for similar treatment if they see that the can complain and get their way.

As far as the cats go, the HOA is taking reasonable steps to help control the population. Stray cats are not the responsibility of the HOA, but she can call animal control if she's still bothered by them.

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