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ThomasC19 (Florida)
Posts: 4
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Can a coa/hoa remove a re cycling dumpster from a gated community without offering any other options for the community to remove their recyclables
Does anyone know ?
AugustinD
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Posted By ThomasC19 on 04/18/2021 8:01 AM
Can a coa/hoa remove a re cycling dumpster from a gated community without offering any other options for the community to remove their recyclables
Does anyone know ?
Does your HOA's/condo's covenants say anything about the HOA/condo being obligated to offer a recycling dumpster? If not, then the Board is probably in their rights, especially if the Board is trying to save money.

Are there no pubicly accessible sites for the public to take recyclables in Florida?

You could always round up some others and all of you could run for the board at the next election, with "Recycling" on your campaign platform.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Condos are different from single family homes.. I am guessing that your condo association don't have a green dumpster for your use anymore. That may not have been a COA Board decision. The Waste hauler likely is not collecting recyclables separately anymore. The short answer is, What I am finding out is China isn't taking our recyclables anymore, and many of the waste haulers are finding different venues to dispose of the recyclables they collect.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Yes they can if that service is no longer available or they want to switch vendors. It happens all the time. They are contractors just like other vendors you use. Our city just changed recycle companies. They replaced our weekly pick up and small bins to once a month large bin.

Recycling is optional.

Former HOA President
ThomasC19 (Florida)
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Thank you everyone for your input but I don't think I made myself clear the hoa a is removing our dumpsters and not giving us any other option for removeable Of recycling I can't imagine how this is allowed
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Yes, they can, if recycling isn't mandatory in your community. In my city, recycling is optional, although there are recycle bins around the city. Unfortunately, people can't/refuse to read the rules as to what's allowed, and end up putting all types of trash in the bins, or just leaving it on the ground when the bins are full. In my immediate area, recycle bins have changed locations several times because of this, and it may be your board found the same problem.

It's really not the HOAs responsibility to provide recycling options, as it's very convenient. You might see if there's an organization in your area that might come to your community once a month or every two weeks and set a day and time where people can deposit recyclables. Most cities and counties have websites where you can find other places to recyle - go to your city or county website and see what's out there. There are non-profit organizations that may also have programs - get their information and post it on the community website or newsletter and let people make their own arrangements. I usually take mine to an organization that provides jobs to ex-cons to reduce recidivism (did it yesterday).

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
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ThomasC19, I can't imagine how you could read the responses and not understand the proposed reasons why this happened.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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We don't have glass recycling in our area. They put out a bin in a parking lot for awhile for glass recycling. It's now gone. Did the city have the right to do that? Yes cause there are no glass recycling companies in our local area. The company that was doing it had to ship everything out of state.

So yes your HOA can do the same thing. Recycle services change. Them the facts whether you like it or not.

Former HOA President
MaxB4
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Posted By AugustinD on 04/18/2021 9:56 AM
ThomasC19, I can't imagine how you could read the responses and not understand the proposed reasons why this happened.

I was curious, do you also give marriage advice, or car repair tips, or RVing do's and don't' s. Seems you have to respond to every single post on this site.

Just Saying
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
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The recycling is picked-up every other week and the individual owners pay for that service as part of their utility bill they receive from the city. Garbage pick-up is contracted item by the Association.
ThomasC19 (Florida)
Posts: 4
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My apologies.... I used voice to text and it misinterpreted my reply.
" i can't understand how a dumpster can be removed without providing the community with other options." Just removing doesnt solve the problem.
Our issue is a high volume of illegal dumping causing a unsightly appearance in that area.
JohnT38 (South Carolina)
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Posted By MaxB4 on 04/18/2021 10:38 AM
Posted By AugustinD on 04/18/2021 9:56 AM
ThomasC19, I can't imagine how you could read the responses and not understand the proposed reasons why this happened.


I was curious, do you also give marriage advice, or car repair tips, or RVing do's and don't' s. Seems you have to respond to every single post on this site.

Just Saying

What's your point? Just saying
MaxB4
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Posted By JohnT38 on 04/18/2021 11:56 AM
Posted By MaxB4 on 04/18/2021 10:38 AM
Posted By AugustinD on 04/18/2021 9:56 AM
ThomasC19, I can't imagine how you could read the responses and not understand the proposed reasons why this happened.


I was curious, do you also give marriage advice, or car repair tips, or RVing do's and don't' s. Seems you have to respond to every single post on this site.

Just Saying


What's your point? Just saying

Just an observation
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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As I said earlier, not complying with the rules as to what can and shouldn't be placed in a recycling bin is lost on some people, or they simply don't care. We don't have recycling dumpsters in our community, but our dumpsters have been plagued with illegal trash for years (water heaters, beds, more mattresses that what I've seen in a mattress store and a toilet {I kid you not}). We nearly lost our trash contractor because of the trash and the association has had to pay to get the illegal stuff removed so the city can pick it up. Unfortunately, part of your problem is likely due to passersby who figure they can use the dumpsters, although they're supposed to be for residents only.

We have installed a video camera near the dumpster that had the biggest problem, and the results are all over the place. Overall, I think it's helped a bit, but the main problem is that people park in such a way that the camera can't capture the license plate and the dumping appears to occur during the day when people are at work or school, or late at night when people are sleeping. A few years ago we had a sign, which also helped a little, but the county's zoning rules make you go through all types of hoops to install it. Ours was on the dumpster shed door, so there was no missing it when you opened it, but it was removed when we rebuilt the shed. One of our current board members is a stickler for the county rules being applied (he admits he's anal about this because he's a realtor) and so I don't know if we'll ever look into getting another one.

Unless you and your neighbors are willing to pay the extra costs related to (1) more cleanup (2) scheduling a recycling pickup once a week or month, (3) have a security firm install a surveillance camera and/or provide guards to monitor the are 24/7, there won't be a simple or cheap answer. The board has to provide trash pickup, but recycling is an option.

Your board has to set priorities based on the money at hand - that's what you elected them to do. That doesn't mean they will always make decisions you like, but you can and should ask about the costs related to illegal dumping and what other options were considered. You might offer doing the research on the pros and cons of various options and present them to the board for consideration.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Thomas

Help me to better understand. Has the association removed only the Recycle dumpster(s) and the Trash dumpster(s) remain or are you saying they removed all dumpster(s)?
ThomasC19 (Florida)
Posts: 4
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I want to thank everyone for their replies pertaining to this matter of concern. You all have been very helpful. Im not accustomed or knowledgeable on Florida rules and regulations. Our recycle bin and regular trash dumpster have been plagued with illegal dumping from refrigerators to hot water heaters . So with that said our hoa feels removing only the recycling dumpster will alleviate the problem.. my fear is the regular dumpster will be over whelmed with all types of trash spreading onto the street. Our hoa refuses to install cameras with no logical explanation. Thank you again . my orginal question was posted to satisfy my personal concerns. Peace ✌
MaxB4
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Posted By ThomasC19 on 04/18/2021 3:57 PM
Our hoa refuses to install cameras with no logical explanation. Peace ✌

Cost and manageability.
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
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As far as I know, Florida does not require condos or any other business or residential entity to provide recycling facilities.

You could check with your city or county to see if they have any regulations.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.

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