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LeaB (Florida)
Posts: 4
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Our developer has refused for 27 years to turnover our HOA to property owners. Florida law FS 720 was changed in 1995 to state when an HOA must be turned over but our HOA was formed in 1994 and their lawyer says it does not apply. Former law FS 617 was in effect but I cannot determine when FS 617.307 was enacted. Does anyone have archives of FS in 1994?
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
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Posted By LeaB on 04/12/2021 5:28 PM
Our developer has refused for 27 years to turnover our HOA to property owners. Florida law FS 720 was changed in 1995 to state when an HOA must be turned over but our HOA was formed in 1994 and their lawyer says it does not apply. Former law FS 617 was in effect but I cannot determine when FS 617.307 was enacted. Does anyone have archives of FS in 1994?
Short answer:
FS 617.307 was enacted in 1995. However, I am not yet persuaded that FS 720.307 does not apply to a Florida HOA created in 1994 or earlier.

Long answer, Part 1:
justia.com has the Florida statutes of 1997 at https://law.justia.com/codes/florida/1997/ . Within the latter site, the old FS 617.307 appears at https://law.justia.com/codes/florida/1997/TitleXXXVI/chapter617/617_307.html . At the bottom of the latter site is the following history for 617.307:

History.--s. 57, ch. 95-274.

The site https://guides.uflib.ufl.edu/c.php?g=147438&p=970113 translates this history to mean FS 617.307 that the statute section was created by section 57 of chapter 95-274 of the laws of Florida. Chapter 95-274 means that this was the 274th law passed by the legislature in the year 1995.

Long answer, Part 2:
I do not see anything in FS 720 that limits the application of FS 720.307 to Florida HOAs created in 1995 or later. Furthermore, I see that FS 720.308 (concerning assessments and charges) expressly states that FS 720.308 applies only to HOAs created after October 1, 1995. FS 720.307 has no such qualifier (regarding dates of a HOA's creation).
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
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Do your CCRs say anything about when turnover should happen? If the developer won't turn over voluntarily, maybe the homeowners need to band together and lawyer up.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
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Of note (in my opinion) is that FS 720.307 (5) states: "This section does not apply to a homeowners’ association in existence on the effective date of this act, or to a homeowners’ association, no matter when created, if such association is created in a community that is included in an effective development-of-regional-impact development order as of the effective date of this act, together with any approved modifications thereof."

From my review of the definitions in FS 720 and the old FS 617, in my opinion, the phrase "this act" refers to the old Florida Not for Profit Corporation Act. From reading the little histories at the bottom of each section of the statutes, so far I believe the Florida Not for Profit Corporation Act was enacted in 1990. The OP said her HOA was formed in 1994. In my opinion, and for now, it appears that FS 720.307 does apply to her HOA.

A bit more history:
The first time a "Chapter 720" appeared in Florida statutes was in 2000. From 1999 back to 1990, it appears that FS 617.307 was the applicable statute section regarding HOA developer transition.
LeaB (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
The covenants are badly written but the developer defined 2 classes of “members” with themselves as class B with 120 votes and property owners as class A with one vote each. They platted only 17 lakefront lots with 227 acres in a PUD to develop later. The city vacated the PUD about 7 years ago for failure to develop it. The developer sold the last lot in 2000 over 20 years ago so they own no lots. Covenants say membership and lot ownership are tied, ie you cannot be a member if you own no lots. Member is defined as owner of a platted lot and who pays assessments and/or HOA fees. In my view they cannot be any kind of member and so have zero votes. Now they are selling the 227 adjacent acres and we fear what a new developer might do.

LeaB (Florida)
Posts: 4
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The covenants provided for turnover and extension of the developers control of the HOA. Twice they have filed to extend their control of the HOA with their Class B membership of 120 votes they gave themselves. During the 27 years of control they have charged all of the expenses of maintaining/repairing the gate, the half mile road in to our homes from the gate, all utilities mowing etc of all 227 acres despite that the HOA does not own the gate or road and that they lease that land to a rancher who has cattle on it. A review of financial records identifies a lack of fiduciary responsibility in that they have “lost” 3 years of the required 7 years of records.
AugustinD
Posts: 3,698
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Posted By LeaB on 04/12/2021 10:31 PM
Now they are selling the 227 adjacent acres and we fear what a new developer might do.
I think hiring an attorney and reviewing the specific questions your group has would be well worth it.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By AugustinD on 04/13/2021 5:47 AM
Posted By LeaB on 04/12/2021 10:31 PM
Now they are selling the 227 adjacent acres and we fear what a new developer might do.
I think hiring an attorney and reviewing the specific questions your group has would be well worth it.

Sound advice about a lawyer. My first blush is it does appear the developer was intending to do a "2nd phase" but has not gotten around to it and as such might be able to keep on as the developer versus turn it over to the 17 homeowners.

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